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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Karmosin (talk | contribs) at 09:53, 11 October 2005 (→{{tl|disambig}}?: Still a dicdef.). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

This doesn't look long enough for a good Wikipedia article. Please do one of 3 things:

  1. Put on Vfd
  2. Move to Wiktionary
  3. Re-direct to Pig

66.32.66.166 01:37, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Move to Wiktionary. RickK 02:17, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

True or false??

True or false: Wikipedia has similar pages for other animal sounds. 66.32.65.129 00:42, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)

VfD notice removed -- page kept

No consensus for removal. VfD debate appears below. -- Cecropia 17:47, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • A dicdef of a sound? RickK 02:13, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Now we ought to have a page that discusses animal sounds in different language; the various ways they are represented is interesting. But we probably don't need a page for each sound. I'd really like to fill the page with intriguing details about Oink, but I'm drawing a blank. Smerdis of Tlön 04:16, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Well it was good for a brief laugh anyway. Delete, but tell me more about this proposal for Animal sounds in different languages.... Exploding Boy 09:03, Apr 14, 2004 (UTC)
  • Delete. Come now, if someone were to add "Oink" is the sound people think pigs produce (the whole text of this article) to the pig article we'd revert it as vandalism, I think. It doesn't get any less silly for having its own article. Borderline for BJAODN. The animal sounds... project sounds good however. Andrewa 09:54, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Keep. Now a remarkably good article. I'm amazed. Well done team. Still a bit dubious on the title, but I can see that argued both ways. Andrewa 13:39, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Agree with the above. Recommend the new article as [[transcriptions of animal sounds across languages]] or some variant. It's not a problem that the animals make different sounds but that we hear and transcribe them differently. Rossami
  • Keep. People have missed the point that this could be heavily edited to discuss not only people's thoughts about this pig-made sound, but the sound itself (for what reason pigs make it, and whatever boring discussion of the phenomenon flows from that). And as this is the English wiki we don't have to have what pigs say "in other languages". --Daniel C. Boyer 15:59, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Maybe a new page should be created for animal sounds generally; then we could not only discuss the transcriptions of animal sounds in different languages, but also move the existing Grr (also on VfD) and Oink to them. Smerdis of Tlön 16:25, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • No vote from me on this, but I thought I should also point out Meep as another onomatopoeic article for consideration. Bryan 17:29, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Instead of deleting, try moving to Wiktionary or re-directing to Pig. 66.245.10.117 22:45, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Comment: I suppose at least then the author won't feel disgruntled. (;-> Andrewa 00:22, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
    • Comment: I'll try to be serious. How will the target article end up if we do redirect to pig? Let's see: The domestic pig is usually given the scientific name Sus scrofa, though some authors call it S. domesticus, reserving S. scrofa for the wild boar. Pigs go oink. Do you see the problem? At least it has something for everyone I guess. I did try to be serious. Andrewa 00:39, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. I've added a bunch of extra info - two other meanings that people may not be aware of unless they're really into useless trivia (*ahem*). :-) -- ChrisO 12:33, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • This discussion is the best thing I've read in ages! And where's that Grr article discussion? I vote to keep, it's bloody brilliant! Exploding Boy 14:37, Apr 15, 2004 (UTC)
  • Merge into Onomatopoeia or something similiar, redirect. till we *) 20:02, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. I really like it in its current form - entertaining yet informative. The animal sounds project sounds very worthwhile, too. Pteron 21:05, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Keep. Nice work in making an informative article out of this. Ambivalenthysteria 04:20, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • There's enough there now to keep, easilly. Good job. Isomorphic 05:57, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
  • Definitely keep now. -Sean 21:46, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Dog

How do we justify having one for pigs but not dogs? (if I am not mistaken) Paul Dehaye 09:41, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

You mean Woof? -- ChrisO 13:18, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Yep, stupid me Paul Dehaye 13:58, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

{{disambig}}?

Should this page really carry a {{disambig}} template? Wikipedia:Disambiguation says that disambiguation serves a single purpose: to let the reader choose among different pages that might reside under the same title. Here we don't have different pages — everything is together... I'm not sure what to do with such pages. Should they carry any tags or should they be splitted? Please answer at Talk:Woof. — Pt (T) 20:11, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, now I've found it: Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Multi-stub pages says that {{disambig}} should be removed. I am bold and now I've removed it from here, as well as from Woof. — Pt (T) 20:21, 20 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
We need to splitty :-) --Ihope127 04:30, 19 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think "oink" as in "the sound pigs make" should have it's own encyclopedic article. We already have a Wiktionary article about it, and adding information on usage and etymology doesn't make it any more encyclopedic. If it's to be considered encyclopedic it has to be about an abstract or concrete concept that is completely separate from the animal that makes the sound or mere descriptions of language usage. The former is just impractical to fork and the latter clearly belongs in a dictionary, something Wikipedia is not.
Peter Isotalo 09:53, 11 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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