Talk:New Jersey

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History

i think the history seems quite contervesial with "billion years,drift thoery" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.90.245.87 (talk) 01:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)

Climate

The facts about the climate of New Jersey is so bad, to compare with the Swedish Wikipedia and some others site. Write down more about the climate and more specific. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.53.180 (talk) 04:34, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

• I agree. The climate table is quite confusing. am I getting it right? first number is temperature in Fahrenheit, while the second (in baces) is in Celsius(metric system)? --84.60.5.123 (talk) 11:10, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

For my edit, I meant decidious forests. Press olive, win oil (talk) 14:48, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

Music- Ben Vaughn

avant-Folk musician Ben Vaughn, who often comments on NPR, is from the town of Collingswood, and should be included in the music section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.230.27 (talk) 02:27, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

This may only be important to me but I think the song "Jersey Girl" should definitely be listed under Bruce Springsteens songs.Grace08863 (talk) 05:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Size

I know this was discussed before, but at 105K, this article is an ogre. I'm going to tread lightly at first, cutting only material that is obviously too detailed for this article, such as the personal backgrounds of each of New Jersey's Declaration of Independence signers. Please keep in mind that there are daughter articles for a reason. AlexiusHoratius (talk) 14:02, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

NJ's bad reputation

NJ has a bad rep, and gets made fun of a lot - particularly by New Yorkers. (I'm from NY, FWIW...)

I was wondering: why? When did this start?

The article doesn't cover this except for one mention about Futurama. Sai Emrys ¿? ✍ 08:10, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Perhaps you're unaware that NY also has a bad rep, and gets made fun of a lot? Even New Jerseyans who enjoy visiting now and then often marvel that anyone would be willing to live there. It's a mutual thing, largely perpetuated by poor and unsophisticated people on both sides, who never get to experience the better aspects of life on the other side, only the awful ones. I'd guess it began during the War of Independence, when New York sided with the British against the Americans across the river in NJ.Thefactis (talk) 18:08, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

Um, you do realize there were more torries in NJ, right? Jersey John (talk) 22:46, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Alot of the New Yorkers making fun of us is because of the New Jersey-New York Rivalry. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.82.51.254 (talk) 00:13, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Demographics

I was hoping we could change this:New Jersey is one of the most religiously and ethnically diverse states in the country. It has the second largest Jewish population by percentage after New York[15]; the second largest Muslim population by percent (after Michigan); the third highest Asian population by percent, the third highest Italian-American population by percent of any state according to the 2000 Census; and a large percentage of the population is Black, White American, Hispanic American, Arab American, and Asian American. It has the second highest Indian American population of any state by absolute numbers.[16][17][18][19], to something correct, as Arabs are White, according to the US Census definition, and while Indian Americans are technically White, the US Census defines them as being Asian, and Hispanics may be of any race. Thanks Iamanadam (talk) 01:14, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Do you want to propose something to change it to? The article as is, is just repeating what the references say. --Michael Greiner 02:08, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Please don't take that tone with me, I was just putting out a factual inacuracy, maybe there should be some different references Iamanadam (talk) 21:39, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Politics

Seems rather POV, the part about "then began the decade-long conspiracy". I don't think it's POV to say that new parties have it tough to get a foothold in NJ, but calling it a conspiracy is jumping to certain conclusions which are not evident. 213.84.174.46 (talk) 21:17, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Pronunciation

The current listed pronunciation, /njuːˈdʒɝzi/, has the "New" pronounced as "Nyoo," which is a regional pronunciation ironically absent in New Jersey. Most New Jerseyans pronounce the "New" as "Noo," which (with my limited linguistics skills) should be written [nu:], right? I have lived in New Jersey all of my life, but can anyone back me up on this? Beta.s2ph (talk) 06:10, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

• I've never heard the "nyoo" pronounced with a "y" that way in all my years in the Garden State. We pronounce Bogota, New Jersey as "Buh-GO-ta" and Buena, New Jersey as "BYOO-na". It should come as little surprise that we "mispronounce" the name of our own state. Alansohn (talk) 06:32, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I think a similar issue was going on over at the New York article. Someone would change the IPA pronunciation, and then someone would change it back. I'm not completely clear what the standard for accents is - nor what the IPA pronunciation specifically signifies. Does anyone know an editor who is really experienced with IPA? Perhaps they could shed some more light on this. AlexiusHoratius (talk) 08:09, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

I undid a recent edit because it replaced a correct pronunciation, one that corresponded with IPA notation as reflected on the help page, with one that did not. The issues here are: 1. How is the phrase "New Jersey" pronounced? and 2. How is that pronunciation best represented in IPA notation? The "new" in "New Jersey" may be pronounced "noo" or "nyoo," but "jersey" is always "jer zee," with the accent on the first sylable. Is there a better way to capture that in IPA style?Thefactis (talk) 20:39, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Editing avg. income

The new statistics for average household income linked to in the chart on the side contains a different number than is currently in the chart itself. The 2006 list puts NJ at $66,752, which is 1st in America. 67.85.195.225 (talk) 09:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

19th Century

This section should include a mention of Walt Whitman, who in the annuls of American literature is perhaps one of the most recognize, he spent years in Camden writing and revising Leaves of Grass, and creating some of his most memorable works. His home is a historic site, and his tomb is in Camden as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.159.92 (talk) 13:46, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedian Meetup across the Hudson

New York City Meetup Next: Sunday March 16th, Columbia University area Last: 1/13/2008

In the afternoon, we will hold a session dedicated to meta:Wikimedia New York City activities, and have salon-style group discussions on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects (see the last meeting's minutes).

In the evening, we'll share dinner and chat at a local restaurant, and (weather permitting) hold a late-night astronomy event at Columbia's telescopes.

You can add or remove your name from the New York City Meetups invite list at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Invite list..--Pharos (talk) 23:43, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Products

There isn't any mention about NJ's products & I'm doing a report about it so i really need it...

Eyrie88 (talk) 16:20, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

We are not here to do your homework for you. Go do the research, and add your findings to the article, just like everyone else has done with what is currently in the article. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:35, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Climate

Much of New Jersey has NOT humid subtropical climate, it has humid continental. Except in south that has humid subtropical. Please change. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.126.229 (talk) 00:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

New Jersey Economy addition

It states in this article that New Jersey has a GDP of $434 billion, which, according to the *List of countries by GDP (nominal), (per capita), New Jersey would have about the 17th or 18th largest economy in the world. Does anyone think that this information should be included in this article?

Shanem201 (talk) 23:52, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Demonyms

I've lived my entire life in New Jersey and never once have I heard the terms "New Jerseyite" or "Jerseyite." I'm sure someone, somewhere uses those terms, and that there's some source that corroborates their usage, but glancing at this article today is the first I've seen or heard them. Does anyone know more about their usage? Mjj237 (talk) 11:21, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

I also grew up in NJ and have never heard the -ite ending used. It's always "(New) Jerseyan". The only time I ever see the -ite ending is from the people who have never lived in NJ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.218.243.122 (talk) 03:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC)

Movies

As a west-coaster, I am surprised not to find Garden State (2004) on the list on the main State page for NJ. This movie is probably one of the more modern positive representations of this state and should be put on the list with the others. GigaTronicus (talk) 13:13, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Transportation

While there is a thorough description of the the NY/NJ Tunnel/Bridge connection, I expected a similar paragraph on the connections to Philadelphia to follow. The Bridge connections include the Walt Whitman Bridge, Benjamin Franklin Bridge, and Betsy Ross Bridge, and perhaps a mention of the forthcoming tram line across the Delaware River would be appropriate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.248.159.92 (talk) 13:40, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

new jarsey

Who founded it? why was it discovered? What hard ships did it carry? Also how was it governed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.78.2.10 (talk) 15:57, 21 October 2008 (UTC) 

... What...? Jersey John (talk) 22:50, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Politics

I'm surprised that nothing was included about Sharpe James' reign of terror in Newark and the political throwdown with Cory Booker. This is an important part of black politics and the election, a pivotal moment in New Jersey history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.109.64.226 (talk) 15:00, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

Please. Just because it's a big deal to your certain demographic does not mean it's a big deal to everyone else in the state. I didn't hear anything about it down here in Gloucester county, where we get inundated by major news sources in the tri-state area AND NY, so it's not really a "pivotal moment" in NJ history. It ight be pivotal to your demographic. But that's it. It's not really all that special. Sorry. Jersey John (talk) 22:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

Come to New Jersey and you get food, land, and freedom.

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