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Zlob Merge

This program can essentially be considered the zlob trojan, The article admits the program is downloaded by Zlob and the program is actually referenced on the Zlob page. Given the article's numerous problems, it would make sense just to merge this content with Zlob, and add a subsection for it; possibly a redirect from MS Antivirus to the Zlob page. Regardless, if it's decided the article is going to stay, it needs almost a complete rewrite: As discussed below there's Talk:MS Antivirus#To much use of "you" and "your", unreferenced material, and the page is almost written as a howto remove the program (which is already present in Zlob). Keithieopia (talk) 20:51, 3 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Disagree -Reasoning, Zlob is a trojan dropper, many rouge applications are dropped by Zlob and similar trojans, and adding a list of them onto each trojan article would soon have editors up in arms. Also, concidering that XP Antivirus is distuibuted by a seperate buisness corporation, it would not be smart to merge the two, IMO. Sephiroth storm (talk) 12:48, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know the list of malware that uses zlob is limited, can you provide sources that say otherwise (it would be beneficial to include them in the zlob article)? AFAIK MS Antivirus is uses zlob almost exclusively and hence the zlob article already discusses MS Antivirus. Thus, IMO no editors would become upset if more information is included about it in the zlob article. If anything the zlob article needs more information about MS Antivirus. I agree that in general including every malware program in trojan articles is a bad idea, but whereas MS Antivirus seems to use zlob extensively I feel no issues would arise. Thoughts? Keithieopia (talk) 04:32, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed Cyberdefender bit (mostly)

I noticed that in the removal section it stated how the virus is regularily updated and most av's can't remove it, and then it said to contact cyberdefender technical support, stated their website link AND phone number, then added instrustions basically saying "Don't download any paid av's as technical support will help you" as if it were some kind of manual for using cyberdefender. THIS IS WIKIPEDIA NOT YOUR OWN ADSPACE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andokool12 (talkcontribs) 21:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To much use of "you" and "your"

C'mon... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andokool12 (talkcontribs) 21:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

-- While it doesn't exactly bring the article up to Wikipedia's standards, I spent some time rewording the 'you' and 'yours' out of the article, and did a bit of cleanup, too. Hope that helps! 74.13.80.136 (talk) 04:53, 11 November 2008 (UTC) Tanarus[reply]

Images and article expanded

I have expanded the article significantly and have added images to help the reader understand the virus, and further assisted the reader by adding more descriptions and links on how to remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Medessec (talkcontribs) 02:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

MS Antivirus Ad

MS Antivirus is a %100 for real anti-virus scanner and remover. The trial version only scans, but the full version also removes. The full version costs $1.000.000. A small price to pay for your protection. RocketMaster (talk) 16:26, 12 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if you're trolling or simply have mistaked this program for another (maybe there is a legitimate antivirus that is named MS Antivirus)... however this article deals with a malware program that is usually installed as a result of the zlob trojan. Regardless, please provide reputable sources that state otherwise. Keithieopia (talk) 15:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Original research?

I can't believe I just saw that ad...

I am not seein any original research in the article, almost every section has at least one reference, which is respectable for a malware article. The majority of articles are going to be biased against the application, which limits the scope of the article. Theres not much information on these programs because they are designed to do one or two things, create revenue, and bog down a user's computer, to generate revenue. Sephiroth storm (talk) 13:20, 14 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion for protected article

As the authors of the malware, supposing Antivirus 2008 is such thing, may be editing this article in order to keep the business running, I suggest it to be protected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nattelsker (talkcontribs) 03:11, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed tags for rewrite and howto

The tag for "It may need a complete rewrite to meet Wikipedia's quality standards.Tagged since November 2008." is now deleted: it doesn't need a complete rewrite, just a minor cleanup. The tag for "It contains instructions, advice, or how-to content. Tagged since November 2008." is now deleted: now it doesn't have more than a little "Removal" section that is neutral. If you want you can delete that two, but that's all