Template talk:Did you know

Did you know?
Did you know?
Introduction and rules
Introduction	WP:DYK
General discussion	WT:DYK
Guidelines	WP:DYKCRIT
Reviewer instructions	WP:DYKRI
Nominations
Nominate an article	WP:DYKCNN
Awaiting approval	WP:DYKN
Approved	WP:DYKNA
April 1 hooks	WP:DYKAPRIL
Holding area	WP:SOHA
Preparation
Preps and queues	T:DYK/Q
Prepper instructions	WP:DYKPBI
Admin instructions	WP:DYKAI
Main Page errors	WP:ERRORS
History
Statistics	WP:DYKSTATS
Archived sets	WP:DYKA
Just for fun
Monthly wraps	WP:DYKW
Awards	WP:DYKAWARDS
Userboxes	WP:DYKUBX
Hall of Fame	WP:DYK/HoF
List of users ...
... by nominations	WP:DYKNC
... by promotions	WP:DYKPC
Administrative
Scripts and bots	WP:DYKSB
On the Main Page	T:DYK
Main Page errors	WP:ERRORS
To ping the DYK admins	{{DYK admins}}
	v; t; e;

Kiki Wong

... that heavy-metal guitarist Kiki Wong (pictured) played drums for Taylor Swift before joining the Smashing Pumpkins?
... that during the colonial period, Indonesia was the largest exporter of tea outside of the British Raj and Ceylon?
... that the director of Eating Out 2: Sloppy Seconds once described the film as "gaysploitation"?
... that Xu Xinfu adapted the fictional Chinese-American detective Charlie Chan for Chinese audiences?
... that large aircraft once operated on a regular basis from Griffin–Spalding County Airport despite it only having a 3,100-foot-long (940 m) runway?
... that Susanne Craig won the Pulitzer Prize for Explanatory Reporting for her reporting on Donald Trump's taxes after receiving a copy of his tax records in her mailbox?
... that New York City's Hotel Marseilles, once a shelter for Holocaust survivors, later became affordable housing for the elderly?
... that Anatolii Brezvin helped establish a youth hockey championship in Ukraine, and sought to open 60 ice rinks?
... that the Union of Assyrians's mishandling of shoe-polishing stations led to violent conflicts in 1920s Moscow?

This page is for nominations to appear in the "Did you know" section (reproduced on the right) on the Main Page.

Instructions

List new suggestions here, under the date the article was created or the expansion began (not the date you submit it here), with the newest dates at the top. If a suitable image is available, place it immediately before the suggestion. Any user may nominate a DYK suggestion; self-nominations are permitted and encouraged.

Remember:

Proposed articles should:
- not be marked as stubs;
- contain more than 1,500 characters (around 1.5 kilobytes) in main body text (ignoring infoboxes, categories, references, lists, and tables). This is a mandatory minimum; in practice, articles longer than 1,500 characters may still be rejected as too short, at the discretion of the selecting administrators.
- cite their sources (these sources should be properly labelled; that is, not under an "External links" header); and
- be no more than five days old (former redirects, stubs, or other short articles whose main body text has been expanded fivefold or more within the last five days are acceptable).
Articles on living individuals must be carefully checked to ensure that no unsourced or poorly sourced negative material is included. Articles and hooks which focus unduly on negative aspects of living individuals should be avoided.
Articles with good references and citations are preferred.
To count the number of characters in a piece of text, you will need to use a JavaScript extension like User:Dr pda/prosesize.js (instructions on the talk page), a free website like this, or an external software program that has a character-counting feature. For example, if you are using Microsoft Word, select the text from the article page (or, in the case of "Did you know" nominations, this Talk page) – not the edit page containing Wikitext – then copy and paste it into a blank document. Click "Tools" ("Review" in Office 2007), then "Word Count", and note the "Characters (with spaces)" figure. Other word processing programs may have a similar feature. For Mac users, Apple has a Word counter widget available for Mac OS X 10.4 or later. Note: The character counts indicated on "Revision history" pages are not accurate for DYK purposes as they include categories, infoboxes and similar text in articles, and comments and signatures in hooks on this page.
Suggested facts (the 'hook') should be:
- interesting to draw in a variety of readers,
- short and concise (fewer than about 200 characters, including spaces),
- neutral,
- definite facts that are mentioned in the article, and
- always cited in the article with an inline citation.

Please note that hooks are subject without notice to copyediting as they move to the main page. The nature of the DYK process makes it impractical to consult users over every such edit. In particular, hooks will be shortened if they are deemed too long: the 200-character limit is an outside limit not a recommended length. Also, watch the suggestions page to ensure that no issues have been raised about your hook, because if you do not respond to issues raised your hook may not be featured at all.

Suggested pictures should be:
- suitably and freely (PD, GFDL, CC etc) licensed (NOT fair use) because the main page can only have freely licensed pictures;
- attractive and interesting, even at a very small (100px-wide) resolution;
- already in the article; and
- relevant to the article.
- formatted as [[Image:image name |right|100x100px| Description]] and placed directly above the suggested fact.
Suggested sounds should have similar qualities to pictures, and should be formatted using the format {{DYK Listen|filename.ogg|Brief description}}

Proposed lists should have two characteristics to be considered for DYK: (i) be a compilation of entries that are unlikely to have ever been compiled anywhere else (e.g. List of architectural vaults), and (ii) have 1,500+ character non-stub text that brings out interesting, relational, and referenced facts from the compiled list that may not otherwise be obvious but for the compilation.
Please sign the nomination, giving due credit to other editors if relevant. For example:
- *... that (text)? -- new article by [[User]]; Nom by ~~~~
- *... that (text)? -- new article self-nom by ~~~~
- *... that (text)? -- new article by [[User]] and ~~~~
- *... that (text)? -- Article expanded fivefold by [[User]]; Nom by ~~~~
- *... that (text)? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by ~~~~
- *... that (text)? -- Article expanded fivefold by [[User]] and ~~~~
When saving your suggestion, please add the name of the suggested article to your edit summary.
Please check back for comments on your nomination. Responding to reasonable objections will help ensure that your article is listed.
If you nominate someone else's article, you can use {{subst:DYKNom}} to notify them. Usage: {{subst:DYKNom|Article name|November 26}} Thanks, ~~~~
For more details see the previously Unwritten Rules.

Symbols

If you want to confirm that an article is ready to be placed on a later update, or that there is an issue with the article or hook, you may use the following symbols (optional) to point the issues out:

Code	Ready for DYK?	Description
{{subst:DYKtick}}	Yes	No problems, ready for DYK
{{subst:DYKtickAGF}}	Yes	Article is ready for DYK, with a foreign-language or offline hook reference accepted in good faith
{{subst:DYK?}}	Query	An issue needs to be clarified before the article's eligibility can be determined. You may use {{DYKproblem}} to notify the nominator
{{subst:DYK?no}}	Maybe	Article is currently ineligible but may only need some minor work to fix. You may use {{DYKproblem}} to notify the nominator
{{subst:DYKno}}	No	Article is either completely ineligible, or else requires considerable work before becoming eligible

Next update

DYK queue status

There are currently 4 filled queues. Admins, please consider promoting a prep to queue if you have the time!

Earliest time for next DYK update: 00:00, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Current time: 14:16, 26 November 2024 (UTC)

Update frequency: once every 24 hours

Last updated: 14 hours ago(

)

The next update will be produced from queue 3.

There are five queues;

Backlogged?

This page often seems to be backlogged. If the DYK template has not been updated for substantially more than 6 hours, it may be useful to attract the attention of one of the administrators who regularly updates the template. See the page Wikipedia:Did you know/Admins for a list of administrators who have volunteered to help with this project.

Candidate entries

Articles created/expanded on November 21

... that a tenth-century local legend in Lajjun, a district center in Palestine under the Abbasids, held that the spring which served as the town's primary water source sprang from a stone after Abraham struck it with his staff? (joint nom) Huldra, Tiamut and Al Ameer son (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that, according to the answers Friedrich Engels gave in a Victorian Confession album, his idea of happiness was Château Margaux 1848? new article, self nom. (There is a picture, but it would need a different hook, as it's not of Engels' answers) N p holmes (talk) 17:23, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...that John Stuart Skinner was a prisoner-of-war agent with Francis Scott Key on a mercy mission to get back a particular prisoner from the British, when Key was inspired (painting) to write a work that became "The Star Spangled Banner?" new article, self nominated by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 15:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

File:GandhiBoer.jpg

... that Mahatma Gandhi (circled) participated in the recovery and Treatment of the wounded in the Second Boer War at the Battle of Colenso and Battle of Spion Kop? --new article, self-nom by Count Blofeld 14:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Your "oval" needs bolding. Can't see it! Might as well crop it. --74.14.18.119 (talk) 18:43, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Waterstone's, W H Smith, and Amazon.co.uk stopped selling The Complex: An Insider Exposes the Covert World of the Church of Scientology after receiving legal letters from Scientology? -- new article, self-nom by Cirt (talk) 14:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the book The Complex: How the Military Invades Our Everyday Lives explores U.S. military expenditures on items including Southern catfish restaurants and Dunkin' Donuts? -- new article, self-nom by Cirt (talk) 14:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Swadeshabhimani Ramakrishna Pillai wrote the Malayalam biography on Karl Marx, which is the first Marx biography in any Indian language ? - new-article, self-nom by -- Tinu Cherian - 06:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the cohort model in psycholinguistics attempts to describe the retrieval of words from the mental lexicon in terms of how speech stimulates neurons? (new article by self. Will continue to think of some more interesting but accessible hooks.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 05:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in 1905, Fred Odwell led the National League in home runs with nine, but hit only one home run in the other three seasons he played in Major League Baseball? -- five-fold expansion (from prose of 285 characters), self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 04:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Council House (pictured) in Perth, Western Australia, was built to coincide with that city's hosting of the 1962 British Empire and Commonwealth Games? -- self-nom, de-stubbed (5x) - Mark 09:34, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 20

...that Rosetta Reitz, whose Rosetta Records focused on the women of Jazz, was behind the 1980 Newport Jazz Festival tribute called "Blues is a Woman", featuring Adelaide Hall and Big Mama Thornton? -- five-fold expansion, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 17:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- OR in a completely different approach (alt hook)*...that Rosetta Reitz wrote the 1977 book Menopause: A Positive Approach, one of the first to focus on menopause from the perspective of women, not doctors? -- five-fold expansion, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 17:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Quanta Computer, Inc. v. LG Electronics, Inc. is a 2008 U.S. Supreme Court decision in which the Court reaffirmed the validity of the patent exhaustion doctrine? - created by PraeceptorIP (talk · contribs), nom by BorgQueen (talk) 15:12, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT:... that the validity of the patent exhaustion doctrine was reaffirmed in the 2008 U.S. Supreme Court decision Quanta Computer, Inc. v. LG Electronics, Inc.? --74.14.18.119 (talk) 18:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that there are four types of spinning, a manufacturing process for creating polymer fibers—wet, dry, melt, and gel? - created by Wizard191 (talk · contribs), nom by BorgQueen (talk) 14:47, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Dunderberg Spiral Railway would have pulled train cars to the top of Dunderberg Mountain and returned by coasting back down the 12-mile-long track at speeds approaching 50 miles per hour? -- new article by User:Kafziel, nom by Alansohn (talk) 04:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Will Venable (pictured), son of former Major League Baseball player Max Venable, was the 2nd athlete (after current teammate Chris Young) to be named first-team All-Ivy League in both basketball and baseball?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 03:41, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is 213 characters. —97198 (talk) 06:38, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Lava River Cave in Newberry National Volcanic Monument near Bend, Oregon, is the longest known uncollapsed lava tube in Oregon? Self-nom.--Orygun (talk) 02:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Áed Ua Crimthainn, abbot of Terryglass in Ireland, was the compiler and principal scribe of the Book of Leinster, a Middle Irish illuminated manuscript? -- new article by User:Strawless. Angus McLellan (Talk) 00:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Dr. Jay Katz, who escaped from Nazi Germany to the US in the 1930s, opposed use of data from Nazi human experimentation, noting that "we cannot separate the data from the way they were obtained"? -- new article, self nom by Alansohn (talk) 23:41, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Knight Foundry (pictured) in Sutter Creek, California, is the last water-powered foundry in the United States? (self-nom, 5x expansion 445→4981 characters) Howcheng (talk · contribs) 18:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~Length expansion, date verified. Offline hook reference accepted in good faith. --Rosiestep (talk) 20:52, 20 November 2008 (UTC)~~[reply]

Ack! My bad, it's not offline; I just forgot the URL. I have now added that to the link for full verification. howcheng {chat} 21:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alrighty; good to go! --Rosiestep (talk) 04:34, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that at least one song written by Sonny Throckmorton was on the country music charts for almost every week between 1976 and 1980? - Self nom Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • ^{(Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP)} 18:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Nabi Shu'ayb, Arabic for "the Prophet Jethro", is used in English to refer to the site where Druze tradition holds he was buried? (creator:User:Al Ameer son), nominated by Tiamut^talk 17:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the initial ransom demand by Somali pirates to release the MT Stolt Valor, hijacked September 15, 2008, was US$6 million? (new; self nom) --Rosiestep (talk) 17:06, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that when property fund Nation Life Insurance collapsed in 1973, its owner William Stern became Britain’s biggest bankrupt with debts of £118 million?

Although this is unflattering info about a living person, I think it's more than adequately cited and doesn't give it undue weight (it seems to be the source of his greatest notoriety), so meets DYK's standards for inclusion. Nevertheless, I can also put forward this alternative:

... that the bankruptcy of property fund owner William Stern with debts of £118 million led directly to the creation of Britain's first Policyholders' Protection Act in 1975? -- new article self-nom(s) by --DeLarge (talk) 12:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that singer Robb Johnson (pictured) based the album Gentle Men on the experiences of his two grandfathers during the First World War? -- new article, self nom by ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:26, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that during the Great Bombay Textile Strike of 1982, nearly 250,000 workers and more than 50 textile mills went on strike in Mumbai, India? --- new article, self nom by Kensplanet^Talk_{Contributions} 09:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Chuck Churn won only three games in his Major League Baseball career, one of them handing Elroy Face his only loss in 1959 when he finished with an 18-1 record? -- fivefold expansion, self nom by Alansohn (talk) 04:37, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the French transmission system operator Réseau de Transport d'Électricité manages a 100,000 km network of high-voltage power lines, making it Europe's largest? New article, self-nom. — BillC ^talk 01:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

For those who don't speak French, the hook is cited in the La Dépêche du Midi reference: "le plus grand réseau de transport d'Europe", "the biggest transmission network in Europe". The 100,000km part is in references #1 and #5. — BillC ^talk 03:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Order of the Builders of People's Poland was the highest civilian decoration in the People's Republic of Poland? --self nom by _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk} 00:46, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...that according to Hindu legend, the yogi Visoba Khechara taught his disciple poet-saint Namdev the omnipresence of God by magically filling a whole temple with lingas - the symbols of god Shiva? self nom. new article--Redtigerxyz (talk) 05:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 19

...that in The Stages of Life (pictured) Caspar David Friedrich depicted his son Gustav holding a Swedish flag because he considered himself half-Swedish? (self-nom, expanded by User:Ceoil) -- Lithoderm (talk) 19:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Jerry Ziesmer, who spoke the line "Terminate with extreme prejudice" in the film Apocalypse Now, was given the role unexpectedly by Francis Ford Coppola because the original actor had a cough? ~ New article by Wikidemon; nominated by Hassocks5489 (tickets please!) 13:02, 21 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Suggest: "spoke" --> "delivered". --74.14.18.119 (talk) 18:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that French explorer Robert de LaSalle (pictured) was murdered by a member of his own expedition while trying to locate the Mississippi River in 1687? -- new article by User:Charles Edward; nom by Bruce1ee^talk 08:58, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Uskmouth Power Station (pictured) is one of the cleanest coal-fired power stations in the United Kingdom? -- new article by User:Fintan264; nom by Bruce1ee^talk 07:51, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Length, date and hook verified; however "has been described as one of the cleanest" may be more appropriate in the hook, since these statements are open to considerable debate, and the sources appear to be (loosely) linking back to the Uskmouth-B owners themselves. — BillC ^talk 18:00, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that when American sculptor Chester Beach (pictured) was selected to the National Academy of Design, he was its youngest member? (self-nom) Howcheng (talk · contribs) 22:13, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in 13th century Old Norse Bartholomeus saga postola, a "devil" says that Jesus "made war on Hel our queen"? :bloodofox: (talk) 21:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Sharp Nemesis has been called the most successful air racing plane in aviation history? New, self-nom. AKRadecki^Speaketh 03:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I changed "is considered" to "has been called." It's just better that way. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:31, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 350 acre Mar Y Cel estate, built in the early 1900s in the foothills of California's Santa Ynez Mountains, included an aqueduct, water works, arches, and statues? (new; self nom) --Rosiestep (talk) 23:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Mieczysław Jagielski negotiated the agreement which recognized Solidarity as the first independent trade union within the Eastern Bloc? Article expanded fivefold by User:Piotrus and Terrakyte (talk) 23:20, 19 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

Royal Cortissoz

... that traditionalist American art critic Royal Cortissoz (pictured) denigrated the work of modern masters such as Vincent van Gogh as being the product of "egotists"? (self-nom) NOTE: the sentence in the article is not directly cited because it summarizes about 6 pages' worth of commentary in the source. Footnote 7 (Morgan, 84) is for the direct quote, but he calls Van Gogh egotistical on page 81 of the source. Howcheng (talk · contribs) 21:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in his first game pitching in the major leagues, Pat Underwood of the Detroit Tigers won the game 1-0, defeating his brother, Tom, the starting pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays? -- fivefold expansion, self nom by Alansohn (talk) 21:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Jane Brody had majored in biochemistry in college but became a journalist to "help people lead better lives", and her Personal Health column has been syndicated to more than 100 papers nationwide? -- new article, self nom by Alansohn (talk) 20:36, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that college football's top prospective linebacker recruit for 2009, Jelani Jenkins, has narrowed his potential choices to a field of fifteen, including the 2009 Maryland Terrapins? -- new article self-nom by Strikehold Strikehold (talk) 17:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Jelani Jenkins? Who? You're not going to connect with too many readers on the main page. --74.14.18.119 (talk) 18:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Old English Gospel of Nicodemus features a female figure named Seo hell who tells Satan to leave her dwelling and has been compared to the female being Hel of Norse mythology? New article, self-nomination. Important to note that Hel (being) is a "being" as there is also Hel (location) from Norse mythology, and Hel is never explicitly referred to as a goddess in surviving sources. :bloodofox: (talk) 15:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that in 1967, Dr. Adrian Kantrowitz performed the world's second human heart transplant, in a procedure on a 19-day-old infant at Maimonides Medical Center in Brooklyn, New York? -- five-fold expansion, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 14:15, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that American illustrator, painter and printmaker Ella Sophonisba Hergesheimer (1873–1943) was the great-great granddaughter of Philadelphia artist Charles Willson Peale? -- new article self-nom by Alphageekpa (talk) 10:42, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that spores from species of the mushroom genus Calostoma been examined with both scanning probe and atomic force microscopy?-- new article self-nom by Sasata (talk) 08:58, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that when ABC's Birmingham, Alabama, affiliate WBMA-LP refused to air the Ellen coming out "The Puppy Episode", a local LGBT group sold out a 5000-seat theatre so people could watch it via satellite? OR

... that the name of the Ellen coming out episode "The Puppy Episode" was drawn from a producer's suggestion that since character Ellen Morgan showed little interest in dating she should get a puppy? new aticle, self-nom. Otto4711 (talk) 06:43, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the World Wrestling Federation's first coffin match took place at Survivor Series 1992 between The Undertaker and Kamala? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

or ... that The Undertaker defeated Kamala in the World Wrestling Federation's first coffin match at Survivor Series 1992? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:07, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that while George Hysteron-Proteron was still in the cot, he shot his nanny in the backside with a pea-shooter? - self-nom by Xn4 (talk) 03:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 1996 Orange Bowl had the least attendance of any Orange Bowl since 1947? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by JKBrooks85 (talk) 01:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that during the War of 1812, Grenadier Island, Canada, served as a military outpost? new article, self nom. Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 01:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Charles Dinsmoor invented the endless chain tractor in 1886, forerunner of the continuous track vehicle? new article, self nom by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 01:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that footballer Tommy Magee is the only West Bromwich Albion player to have won both a League Championship medal and an FA Cup winners' medal with the club? -- new article self-nom by Jameboy (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the bell tower of the Bărboi Church in Iaşi, Romania is over a century older than the present church, and once contained a private library? -- self-nom by Biruitorul ^Talk 23:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

statue of George Mackay in Tamsui today

... that in the Sino-French War, Presbyterian missionary George Mackay (bust pictured) refused to leave during the French bombardment of Tamsui in October 1884 because he could not take his Formosan converts with him? -- new article by Djwilms (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 04:49, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Uncial 0212 could be the only surviving manuscript of the Greek Diatessaron, a Gospel harmony ? -- new article by User:Leszek Jańczuk; Nom by Redtigerxyz (talk) 14:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Alt: ... that Uncial 0212 is the first manuscript of Greek Diatessaron, a Gospel harmony, to be discovered in modern time ? --Redtigerxyz (talk) 06:16, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 18

... that lifeboat builder Henry Greathead was awarded £1,200 by the House of Commons for his work? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Derek Andrews (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I bolded it and removed "pioneering" from "pioneering lifeboat builder." —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 16:24, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Minatogawa Man is among the oldest complete skeletons of modern humans recovered in East Asia? - created by Jorge Stolfi (talk · contribs), nom by BorgQueen (talk) 13:07, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 1890 novel Tom Playfair, telling of the adventures of a 10-year-old at an all-boys Jesuit boarding school, has been compared to Harry Potter? new article by Daubmir (talk · contribs), nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 08:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The hook needs better support at this time. I'm going to work on it.Cbl62 (talk) 08:04, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that U.S. President Rutherford B. Hayes (pictured) considered the founding of Ohio State University one his two greatest achievements? new article by ChicJanowicz (talk · contribs), nom. by cbl62 (talk · contribs) Cbl62 (talk) 07:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It would be good timing if this hook could be featured on Saturday -- the day of "The Game" between Michigan and Ohio State.Cbl62 (talk) 07:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that a report published by Dalberg for the US government on the energy sector in India played a crucial role in the success of the Indo-US civilian nuclear agreement? (moved to mainspace on 18th; self nom) Zithan (talk) 20:04, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 1806 settlement of Chinese in Trinidad was the first organised settlement of Chinese people in the Caribbean, preceding the importation of Chinese indentured labour by over 40 years? (Fivefold expansion starting Nov. 18) Guettarda (talk) 18:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Hittin was a Palestinian village located near the site of the Battle of Hattin, where Saladin defeated the Crusaders in 1187? (fivefold expansion beginning Nov. 18, co-nom with User:Huldra and User:Al Ameer son Tiamut^talk 14:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that after a plane crash killed the Governor of Oregon and the next two people in line for that office, the new governor’s first act was to appoint Earl T. Newbry as Secretary of State? (article by User:Emk4ever) Aboutmovies (talk) 09:35, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good, this is a significant event in Oregon history, worthy of DYK mention. I made a slight grammatical change. -Pete (talk) 09:57, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the human bocavirus is the fourth most commonly found virus in samples collected from the respiratory system? -- new article by Stevenfruitsmaak (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 04:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the authority of Committeemen and Committeewomen in Chicago and Template:City-state, varies so that some committeemen control their wards and others are controlled by other ward leaders?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 18:40, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Vice Admiral Constantine Moorsom (pictured), chairman of the London & North Western Railway, was listed as a crew member at the Battle of Trafalgar? (the ref says he wasn't there, but the hook (which is well reported) is true) self-nom Victuallers (talk) 22:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Sclerodermataceae, a family of fungi, contains species with common names such as 'hard-skinned puffballs', 'earthstars' and 'prettymouths'? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Sasata (talk) 05:08, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that The Atlantic Monthly ran an article titled "Mother Doesn't Do Much" by Catherine Galbraith about her role as an ambassador's wife in India after her son wrote a school essay using those words? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 03:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that as a result of the British government's actions during the winter of 1946-1947 the Minister of Fuel and Power, Emanuel Shinwell, received a bomb threat?

or ... that the winter of 1946-1947 saw ice floes off the coast of East Anglia in the United Kingdom?
or ... that the food shortages during the winter of 1946-1947 saw British farmers using pneumatic drills to harvest parsnips? 5 times expansion, self nom. There are plenty of other interesting facts in this article but I think the ones above are the best - Dumelow (talk) 00:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re-name as "Winter of 1946-1947 in Britain"? --74.14.18.119 (talk) 19:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Shakespeare's Birthplace is a restored half-timbered house situated in Henley Street, Stratford-upon-Avon, England, where it is believed that William Shakespeare was born and spent his childhood? (self-nom, new article) --Red Sunset 21:58, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

At 216 characters, this hook is ineligible, but there's still time to suggest another. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:27, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I deleted 16 characters. Otto4711 (talk) 01:44, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

or... that Shakespeare's Birthplace is a restored half-timbered house in Henley Street, Stratford-upon-Avon, England, where it is believed that William Shakespeare was born and spent his childhood? (removed "situated") --Red Sunset 19:05, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
or... that American showman P. T. Barnum proposed to buy Shakespeare's Birthplace and ship it brick-by-brick back to the US? (a bit more interesting) --Red Sunset 21:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC) I agree, I was unmoved to find ... that his birthplace was the place where he thought to have been born? Victuallers (talk) 22:02, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the former Japanese princess Sayako (pictured) was a researcher at the Yamashina Institute for Ornithology specializing in the study of kingfishers? <self-nom> --MChew (talk) 14:48, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that K-B-D, a triliteral root meaning "heavy" that is common to all Semitic languages, appears in the Old Testament 376 times? (self-nom, new article)Tiamut^talk 13:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that according to Islamic tradition, Reuben is buried in the former Arab village of Nabi Rubin (pictured), where up to 30,000 Muslims participated in an annual religious festival before its capture by Israel in 1948? (self-nom) --Al Ameer son (talk) 05:28, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article says Israelis won't let Arabs live there permanently, and Israelis turned a Muslim shrine into a Jewish shrine. Please forgive my unfamiliarity with Mideast politics, but neither the hook nor the article answers this question: Do the Israelis forbid Muslims from making their pilgrimage anyway? Art LaPella (talk) 06:13, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Art LaPella. If I may, I think the festival just ended because in the wake of 1948 war, the 150,000 Arabs that remained within Israel and became citizens, needed travel permits to go from place to place. Israel was under Martial law#Israel. That would make getting 30,000 people together to go to a festival rather difficult since I doubt all 30,000 would be able to get a permit at the time. So though there may very well have been no official proclamation cancelling the festival, it would have been impossible to organize under the general circumstances. Note that martial law continued until 1967, and by that time, people would have gotten used to not having the festival and it would be difficult to reignite the tradition. Just my two cents. Tiamut^talk 17:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I sort of revised the "pilgrimage" part of the hook to reflect that in the article. In the Benvenisti source, it says it was not celebrated in the year of the war, but does not say if Muslims were forbidden to visit it. I'm sure they're allowed, but a festival of even close to such magnitude hasn't occurred since the village's capture. --Al Ameer son (talk) 22:40, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, the article mentions that most of the pilgrims came from the surrounding cities like Lydda, Ramleh and Jaffa. In those cities *at least* 90 % of the Arab population were expelled (outside Israels borders). So of the 30 000 people who attended pre-1948, only, say, a maximum of 2-3000 would have a theoretical possibility to attend post-48. And as Tiamut mentions above: they all needed travelling-permit. And from what I have read about those times: they were very difficult times for the non-Jews of Israel, I think celebrating at festivals was very low on their list of priorities. Regards, Huldra (talk) 17:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Worthy Streator never set foot in the city of Streator, Illinois, the town named for him, even though it was founded 36 years before his death? -- new article and self-nom by Ljmajer (talk) 08:17, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT ... that Worthy Streator offered his friend, future president, James A. Garfield $10,000 of free stock if Garfield would convince the Am. Central Railroad to “bend the railroad” to Streator’s coal mine? -- new article and self-nom by Ljmajer (talk) 07:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT #2 ... that Worthy Streator was a pallbearer at the funeral of U.S. President James A. Garfield, and later helped finance the Garfield Monument, the first true mausoleum in the United States?-- new article and self-nom by Ljmajer (talk) 07:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the presence of indoleic acid in one's urine may indicate a pathological accumulation of the amino acid tryptophan in the blood? -- new article by Rcej (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 01:18, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Ngo Dinh Diem's presidential visit to the United States in 1957 was only the second time that Dwight D. Eisenhower had greeted a guest in person at the airport? YellowMonkey (click here to choose Australia's next top model!) 05:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You might want to use this picture at WCommons. Crop as you like. --PFHLai (talk) 23:40, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Brown Mountain forest in East Gippsland, Victoria is home to mainland Australia's largest marsupial carnivore, the Spotted Quoll? -- new article by Peter Campbell; Nom by Pengo —Pengo 21:54, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Agnieszka Pilchowa, a noted clairvoyant in the Second Polish Republic, was also a herbalist who treated Prime Minister Józef Piłsudski and President Ignacy Mościcki? -- new article by Tymek (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 16:55, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 17

...that INS Tabar, a Talwar class frigate has successfully escorted about 35 ships including many non-Indian flagged vessels, safely during the transit through the pirate-infested waters near the horn of Africa? -new-article, nom by -- Swapnils2106 (talk) 08:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How is this a new article ??. INS Tabar is a redirect to INS Tabar (F44) created on 16 April 2006 ! -- Tinu Cherian - 09:34, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suppose the nominator means recent expansion (though at a glance I'm not sure it's fivefold). —97198 (talk) 11:33, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looking at page history there was no 5 fold expansion on nov 21, I am afraid it is not a valid DYK nom :( -- Tinu Cherian - 12:40, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expansion began on Nov 17 and was 5x (700 to 4100). Moving from Nov 21. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:08, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that hindcasts and forecasts using ocean surface wave models are extremely important for commercial interests on the high seas? - created by Scholar743 (talk · contribs), nominated by BorgQueen (talk) 13:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"important"? a little PEACOCK/POV-ish? --74.14.18.119 (talk) 19:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Italian mezzo-soprano Flora Perini created the role of the Princess in the original 1918 production of Puccini's Suor Angelica at the Metropolitan Opera? New article self nomNrswanson (talk) 07:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC) credit should also go to user:voceditenore for the great photos[reply]

... that Navy discontinued its football series with Maryland for forty years after Terrapins' linebacker Jerry Fishman twice 'flipped the bird' to the Brigade of Midshipmen during the 1964 game? -- new article by User:Strikehold, self-nom Strikehold (talk) 16:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- No source to the fact that this rivalry is referred to as "The Crab Bowl." I'm not doubting that, but it is symptomatic of a deeper problem in the article: from my cursory glance, there's not even verification for the fact that this rivalry exists as a specific entity (as opposed to it just being a rivalry that you came up with in your head after looking at various sources on the teams' histories with one another and deciding that there was a rivalry there). Again, I'm not saying that it's wrong; rather, I'm saying that as the article currently stands, the very premise of the article is presented as being original research. Before anything else can even be worried about with this article, you need to supply some sources talking about the very concept of the Crab Bowl (rather than talking about specific incidents such as the middle fingering) to verify that the subject of this article is a real entity. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:12, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thanks for the feedback. I have addressed these concerns and greatly improved and expanded the article. Please re-review for nomination. Thanks again. Strikehold (talk) 06:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Parke Godwin was an associate editor for Putnam's Magazine and worked with Charles Frederick Briggs and George William Curtis? --self nom of new article; I know it's not particularly exciting but there it is. --Midnightdreary (talk) 15:14, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT1: ... that the American abolitionist Parke Godwin criticized then-president Franklin Pierce in an essay entitled "American Despotisms"? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:19, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate and support the suggestion! I question the use of the term "abolitionist" as the sole qualifier; I recommend "journalist" or "editor" for Godwin. --Midnightdreary (talk) 20:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Father Goose: His Book, an 1899 collection of poetry for children and considered at the time a liberal portrayal of multi-cultural America, is now seen as stereotyped, racist and offensive? -- new article by User:Ugajin; nom by Bruce1ee^talk 05:54, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Comment left at article talk page for cleaning up the section where this fact is located. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - I've also left a message on User:Ugajin's talk page. --Bruce1ee^talk 06:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - The section has now been tidied by the creator (replaced with a quote from the book). --Bruce1ee^talk 06:06, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Irworobongdo (pictured) is a Korean folding screen with a stylized landscape painting for symbolizing the political cosmology of the Joseon Dynasty? -- new article by User:Msrasnw and nominated by Caspian blue 01:03, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- I like this hook and want to see it make the main page. Right now, though, there are very few inline citations; please try to beef up the referencing within the article and then give us a nudge once it's ready. I would help with what's there, except unfortunately I can't read 한글 (although I f-ing love typing it...oh boy oh boy). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - Thank you for the notice. I will implement the inline sourcing. --Caspian blue 05:00, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - I think these English links[1][2] would suffice to verify the hook and overall contents. Thanks--Caspian blue 15:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
      - Currently on hold pending article improvements (see nominator's talk page), will be re-reviewed after those are done. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 23:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Natsume Sōseki's 1905 novel Kairo-kō is the earliest, and only major, prose treatment of the Arthurian legend in the Japanese language? -- new article, self nom by Cúchullain ^t/c 21:48, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that research by physician I. Bernard Weinstein investigated the cancer-causing potential of such foods as barbecued and cured meat? -- new article, self nom by Alansohn (talk) 19:55, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that American economist Franklin M. Fisher, who received the John Bates Clark Medal in 1973, has taught economics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology since 1960? new article by AdjustShift (talk) 15:53, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ALT 1 ... that Franklin M. Fisher, who was the chief economic witness for IBM in its antitrust confrontation with the United States Department of Justice, also served a similar role on behalf of the Department of Justice in the case of United States v. Microsoft? AdjustShift (talk) 16:11, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Walter Scott Lenox made the first set of American made china dishware (replica pictured) for the White House? new article, self nominated by --Doug Coldwell ^talk 14:50, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Suggest: "American made" --> "domestically produced". --74.14.18.119 (talk) 19:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Patrick David Wall published his first two papers at the age of 21 while still an undergraduate? New article, self-nom, easily past the word count. Ironholds (talk) 06:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Bordeaux wine estate Château d'Angludet was considered a fourth growth, until death and decline led to its omission from the Bordeaux Wine Official Classification of 1855? -- new article self-nom by MURGH ^disc. 02:19, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm concerned that there is no explanation in the article as to what a "fourth growth" is. Otto4711 (talk) 01:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~I understand, the explanation only comes with the 1855 link. Otherwise, first growth (or cru) don't feel appropriate to insert.~~ MURGH ^disc. 01:42, 18 November 2008 (UTC) An attempt at an explanation has been inserted. MURGH ^disc. 12:00, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Ohaveth Sholum Congregation, Seattle's first Jewish congregation, fell four days short of having the first synagogue in Washington? - (new, self-nom) Jmabel | Talk 21:34, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that The Hathaways, an unusual 1961–1962 ABC sitcom, featured Peggy Cass and Jack Weston as "parents" to the three Marquis Chimps? --self-nom Billy Hathorn (talk) 22:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Article is poorly referenced. (refs from IMDB, some geocities page, etc.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 04:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

José María Rojas Garrido

... that José María Rojas Garrido (pictured) assumed the presidency of the United States of Colombia for less than two months in 1886 due to the absence of the then president-elect Tomás Cipriano de Mosquera? --self-nom mijotoba (talk) 00:10, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 16

Cesira Ferrani

... that operatic soprano Cesira Ferrani originated two of the most iconic roles in opera history, Mimi (pictured) in the 1896 world premiere of Giacomo Puccini's La bohème and the title role in Puccini's Manon Lescaut in the original 1893 production? 10 fold expansion, self nom byNrswanson (talk) 07:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC) Credit should also go to user:voceditenore for the great photo, copy edits, and quotes.[reply]

... that opera superstar Giuseppe Cremonini's career was tragically cut short upon his sudden and unexpected death at the age of 36? new article self nom byNrswanson (talk) 06:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC) Credit should also go to user:voceditenore for the great photo and copy edits.[reply]

... that Les West won the Tour of Britain Milk Race in 1965 and 1967? Article created by User talk:Les woodland, nominated by Autodidactyl (talk) 12:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

or ... that Les West's victorious cycle racing career spans 47 years from 1960 to 2006, and includes two victories in the Tour of Britain?

... that the white horse in mythology while associated with the sun chariot, warrior-heroes, fertility or an end time saviour, sometimes has seven heads, eight feet or speaks? — nom new article by WikiJedits (talk) ... Julia Rossi (talk) 01:56, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the Utah roundmouth snail (Valvata utahensis) (pictured) is extirpated from Utah? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Snek01 (talk) 00:06, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the fortifications of Kotor represent one of the best examples of defensive Venetian military architecture? new, self-nom - Ekem (talk) 17:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- The hook is unclear. Does it mean these fortifications were some of the best-built out of all Venetian military architecture...or does it mean that these are some of the best-preserved examples of what Venetian military architecture used to be like? At first glance I thought the hook meant the first, but what seems to be in the article is the second. Please clarify the hook. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 23:54, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - The condition is not optimal as the article shows, there is damage from the earthquake and need for rehab, the documentation indicats it to be one of the "most important" examples, so it relates to the concept or planning and execution, and the hook should be:

... that the fortifications of Kotor represent one of the most important examples of defensive Venetian military architecture? Ekem (talk) 02:18, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's still quite unclear. What makes an architectural feature "important"? —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 05:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Rolland Todd, Stu Inman, Jack McCloskey, and Kevin Pritchard have spent their entire National Basketball Association coaching careers with the Portland Trail Blazers? new article, self-nom -- SRE.K.A~~nnoyomous~~.L.24_[c] 04:24, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: article List of Portland Trail Blazers head coaches, the nominator forgot to bold; the piping's a little tricky so I haven't tried myself. —97198 (talk) 06:58, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Second half of that hook is really overlinked. Try to come up with a new wording that doesn't require you to put three linked expressions together. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 07:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I really don't know how to do that... -- SRE.K.A~~nnoyomous~~.L.24_[c] 08:08, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT1 ... that four Portland Trail Blazers head coaches have spent their entire National Basketball Association coaching careers with the Trail Blazers? (Try this one on for size.) —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:16, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks or doing an alternate. I just linked Trail Blazers just so you know. -- SRE.K.A~~nnoyomous~~.L.24_[c] 00:02, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks but I don't think it needs to be linked. Leaving it not linked emphasizes the fact that it's the same Trail Blazers as what was mentioned at the beginning of the hook; linking it presents it as "new" information (in the discursive sense), which it isn't exactly, since the Trail Blazers were mentioned at the beginning of the sentence. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 14:16, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Edward Sheehan's quotations from Richard Nixon in his 1976 book The Arabs, Israelis and Kissinger led to a State Department search for the source of the leaks? -- new article, self-nom by Alansohn (talk) 04:02, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that even though the Flettner rotor bomblet (pictured) was never mass-produced, William C. Patrick III called it "one of the better devices for disseminating microorganisms"? Self nom, should just make it in over 1,500 characters, pretty obscure topic though.: --IvoShandor (talk) 01:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- We love obscure topics. Any weapon that was seriously considered (as in, it had a development contract) by the US or other major military power is notable enough, in my view. I've commented on an issue with the article itself on the talk. ++Lar: t/c 11:45, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that though Wired magazine called the video game Traxion "the best thing they had on the show floor" at E3 2006, publisher Lucas Arts canceled the game in early 2007? article expanded 5x, self nom. Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 01:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- Note: I hesitate nominating this article because it is still up for deletion, but I am confident (overly confident, perhaps) that the nom will fail. In any case, I wouldn't expect this to be approved at least until the AfD is finished. Bsimmons666 (talk) ^Friend? 01:03, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the park Ravnedalen (pictured) in Kristiansand was constructed by Colonel Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland and his soldiers? --(new, self-nom). Oceanh (talk) 23:40, 16 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

I unbolded Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland because it was created on the 11 and is too late for a DYK nom. Without having yet reviewed the content, the article on Ravnedalen is new enough to get a DYK.Nrswanson (talk) 17:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK. But the articles were both originally nominated under "Articles created/expanded on November 11", on 16 November, when Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland was five days old, and Ravnedalen was 0 days old: "→Articles created/expanded on November 11: nom.". Then somebody decided to move the entry to this place, probably checking the creation date on "Ravnedalen" only: "→Articles created/expanded on November 11: not meant to be here" – "→Articles created/expanded on November 16: reinsert in right place". Pity if that move should destroy the entry. (I bolded Joseph Frantz Oscar Wergeland again, since nobody commented in time, but feel free to unbold again if you disagree.) Oceanh (talk) 18:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC).[reply]

... that Major League Baseball manager John McGraw had 2583 wins as the New York Giants' manager? -- Article expanded fivefold and self-nom by Rlendog (talk) 23:02, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Since the team was in New York when managed by McGraw, shouldn't this say "as the New York Giants' manager"?Cbl62 (talk) 00:30, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. I changed the hook accordingly. Rlendog (talk) 18:25, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the success of Gay Weddings as counterprogramming to Super Bowl XXXVII led television network Bravo to develop additional LGBT-interest programming, including Queer Eye and Boy Meets Boy? - self-nom, new article, moved to article space today. Book reference available through Google book search. Otto4711 (talk) 14:49, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

~~This article was created on Nov. 9, not Nov. 16.~~ Cbl62 (talk) 00:41, 17 November 2008 (UTC) Sorry, I didn't notice that had been moved from a sandbox.Cbl62 (talk) 00:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- No inline citation for the fact that Bravo's reason for airing it was as counterprogramming. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It is drawn from the Engstrom source noted in the middle of the following sentence. Otto4711 (talk) 11:53, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fine, it's verified. I duplicated the ref at the appropriate location. Just as a reminder for the future, the hook fact must have an inline citation right with it; having a ref at the end of the paragraph or even in a later sentence isn't really permissible, especially when the following sentence is "different" enough from the hook fact that it's hard to tell if it's from the same source. This is even more important in the case of offline or foreign-language sources, which most readers don't have access to. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:19, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Norwegian Minister of Defence Rolf Jacobsen did not have a career background in the military, but rather as a jurist? -- should be clear from the text and source. Self-nom by expander Punkmorten (talk) 11:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

As the hook states Jacobsen did not have a career background in the military, that should be mentioned in the article as well. For now, the article simply doesn't mention military service. Another option would be an alt hook. --Rosiestep (talk) 23:37, 18 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the recorded history of the Briolette of India dates back to the 12th century, making it possibly the world's oldest diamond on record? -- new ~~short~~ ^{Not so short anymore!} article by Chamal N (talk · contribs) & Spittlespat (talk · contribs), nom. by PFHLai (talk) 12:27, 16 November 2008 (UTC). (Second author added at 22:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC).)[reply]

Whoah!! Hold it! I'm not done yet, it's still not at 1500 chars. I have to expand a bit more. Chamal ^talk 12:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Keep typing, pal. I know you'll get to 1500+ very soon. :-) --PFHLai (talk) 19:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It's about 3000 characters long now. And User: Spittlespat should be credited as a co-author. --PFHLai (talk) 22:39, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yep. Thanks, PFHLai :) Chamal ^talk 00:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You're welcome. :-) Thank you for writing up the requested article. --PFHLai (talk) 14:48, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that Chief Justice of Queensland John Murtagh Macrossan also had two uncles who were chief justices as well? Assize (talk) 11:52, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article looks good but there isn't enough information about the Australian Law Review source for me to feel comfortable verifying the hook or the article in general. Please provide some further information like who published it and when, and provide the names of any authors or editors that would relevent.Nrswanson (talk) 17:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Have fixed the ref. Also added some online refs to verify hook. Assize (talk) 11:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

...that the Community Services Appeals Tribunal was the first tribunal in Australia to use Alternative dispute resolution? Assize (talk) 11:45, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Expiring noms

Articles created/expanded on November 15

... that after serving in the Mexican–American War, James W. McMillan moved to Indiana, where he engaged in various businesses all over the state? new article by User:Kresock, expanded by User:Mendaliv, and nominated by AdjustShift (talk) 19:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT1:... that before becoming a general in the American Civil War, James W. McMillan was engaged in various businesses all over the U.S. state of Indiana? AdjustShift (talk) 19:31, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  - "Various businesses" is pretty vague. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    - "Various" can be erased. I also have another hook:
    - ALT2:... that after serving in the Mexican–American War and the American Civil War, James W. McMillan served as a member of the Pension Bureau review board in Washington D.C. for about thirty years? AdjustShift (talk) 09:22, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Retired military officer gets civilian government job afterwards? When else has that happened? Daniel Case (talk) 14:24, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT3:... that before becoming a general in the American Civil War, James W. McMillan was engaged in businesses all over the U.S. state of Indiana? AdjustShift (talk) 14:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 has no inline citation in the article (plus there's Daniel Case's complaint...although I might still verify it if there were a citation, it depends on my mood); I still find ALT3 kind of vague. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 15:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team has verbal commitments from four blue chip recruits even though they will be in just their second year off of scholarship probation and are limited in recruiting? --TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 08:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hook is 221 characters. —97198 (talk) 08:44, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the 2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, which is in its second year off of scholarship probation and is limited in recruiting, has four blue chip verbal commitments?

(revised)... that the 2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team, which is in its second year off of scholarship probation and is limited in recruiting, has four blue chip letter of intent signees?

The hook is not explicity stated in the article. It just says several blue chip recruits and not the exact number.Nrswanson (talk) 04:14, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Now it says four.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 05:13, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hook, references, and date are all good. However, a character count shows only 1,375 in prose so you're a bit short in length.Nrswanson (talk) 06:20, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to think I might be moving this hook closer to the main page, but anyway, I counted 1582 using the .css script or whatever it is. I still find the hook quite dull and the article too insubstantial, but I can't object to the article length per se. (although, of course, 1500 is just a lower limit, not a hard-and-fast rule...and the article is pretty bare and has almost no room for improvement as of now, given its speculative nature). —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 06:30, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The article is in no way speculative. There is no doubt that there will be a 2009-10 Michigan Wolverines men's basketball team. The facts are concrete and signing week just ended. This is a very timely article from the perspective of signing week just having occured. Furthermore, it is instructive to the casual sprots fan about the details of recruiting season. The article is bare bones, but it has instructive and encyclopedic value, IMO. How many basketball fans do you know? How many of them can explain the recruiting season to you? That is the value of this article.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 06:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I read the count without spaces. It is over the limit with them. I agree that the article is timely and of value to the encyclopedia. However, I also agree with Politzer that the article is a bit sparce and the hook boring. I will once again state that this hook can be promoted to the main page if an editor chooses to do so, but I personally would not select this hook.Nrswanson (talk) 06:52, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that German football legend Fritz Walter wrote a book about the amateur team SV Alsenborn, which he coached, titled Rise of a village team? new article, self-nom, EA210269 (talk) 15:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
- ALT1: ... that the amateur football team SV Alsenborn was the subject of the book Rise of a Village Team by German football player and coach Fritz Walter? There's nothing in either article verifying the "legend"ness of him, and it's pretty iffy language anyway. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:09, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

And, so what? A coach wrote a book about a team he coached? What's unusual about that? Daniel Case (talk) 14:07, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... ~~that in Norse mythology, Surtr is foretold to lead forth the fire jötnar to battle the Æsir at Ragnarök?~~ Self-nomination. Total rewrite from scratch starting on November 14: 5x expansion. :bloodofox: (talk) 13:00, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

- works for me. x5 expansion as old version was mostly quotes rather than text. However I have asked for an inline cite the first time this fact is mentioned to assist the checking process. thx Victuallers (talk) 17:14, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, this might be more accurate since Surtr only seems to lead anything in the Prose Edda and not the Poetic Edda:

... that in Norse mythology, the giant Surtr is foretold to ride to Ragnarök to fight the Æsir and set the entire world on fire? ( See text at references 3 and 4, for example.):bloodofox: (talk) 08:59, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I can't find a source for riding to Ragnarok specifically, only for "going" to some undefined location to set the whole world on fire and all that good stuff. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 03:16, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See "Surt will ride in front, and both before and behind him there will be burning fire" in the paragraph covered by reference 11. :bloodofox: (talk) 19:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

There needs to be an inline citation right with the fact; a whole paragraph doesn't automatically get "covered by" a single citation. See this sentence from the rules: "The hook fact must be cited in the article with an inline citation, since inline citations are used to support specific statements in an article. The hook fact must have an inline citation right after it since the fact is an extraordinary claim; citing the hook fact at the end of the paragraph is not acceptable." —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 05:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on November 14

... that the title of the album A.O. Mod. TV. Vers. is an abbreviation of Adults Only Television Version?
- Alt Hook ... that the title of the album A.O. Mod. TV. Vers. is an abbreviation of Adults Only Television Version which used to appear in the bottom corner of late night movies in Australia? (little long winded, not sure how many characters this is, if someone can come up with a better one that's fine)

Nomination by RockManQ, created by Dan arndt, expansion by Shaidat cuebiyar. RockManQ ^(talk) 04:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"Abbreviation" is defined as a shortened form, so what does "Mod." stand for? Art LaPella (talk) 06:28, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Erg, it doesn't say anything about Mod. Would reference be better? RockManQ ^(talk) 20:37, 15 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"reference to" would be fine if it's true, but I couldn't find anything about "Adults Only" in any of the references. Art LaPella (talk) 04:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Let's just scrap this hook entirely and try to come up with an unrelated one. Given that no one has been able to figure out what Mod. stands for, we shouldn't have a hook about the meaning of their name—a hook shouldn't leave the reader feeling as if he's missing something. Please suggest a new hook quickly, because this nom is already past expiring. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Mod stands for modified (not sure if that's the most reliable of sources though). As for other hooks, I don't have anything else. If you have one feel free to suggest it. RockManQ ^(talk) 02:51, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That source gives a different abbreviation than your original (that source gives Adult-Oriented instead of Adults Only). Given the apparent disagreement over this, I think it's too much of a pain to deal with for a hook; you can try skimming through the article and looking for something else interesting to suggest. —Politizer ^talk/_contribs 02:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the first registered clinical use of an NK₁ receptor blocker was the treatment of nausea and vomiting induced by chemotherapy? -- new article by Ghosnk1 (talk · contribs), Ghosnk3 (talk · contribs), Ghosnk4 (talk · contribs) and Ghosnk5 (talk · contribs) (See edit history of User:Ghosnk5.); nom. by PFHLai (talk) 13:44, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Note: The existing NK1 receptor antagonist article is a stub. If someone want to merge them, it would be a >10-fold expansion. --PFHLai (talk) 15:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article will have to be renamed per MOS as the one below was before it can be reviewed. Daniel Case (talk) 15:23, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion about a move is already ongoing at WT:PHARM. --PFHLai (talk) 17:12, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed "antagonist" to "blocker", per the skomorokh's comments above. --PFHLai (talk) 18:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article has been moved and renamed per MOS by Politizer. The colon is gone. --PFHLai (talk) 14:44, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

... that the antihypertensive drug Losartan becomes a more potent blocker of angiotensin receptors after it is metabolised in the body? -- new article by Kotroskin (talk · contribs), Gudridur (talk · contribs), Elinborgus (talk · contribs) and Evakr (talk · contribs) (Pls see edit of their draft.); nom. by PFHLai (talk) 23:59, 19 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]