Talk:Sloboda Ukraine

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It gave name to the rest of UA

Should we mention that this region gave its name to the rest of Ukraine? --Ghirlandajo 13:37, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Of course we should say it if this is an established version of the name origin. OTOH, I don't know whether it is or not. So, I can't judge on the merit of this claim. --Irpen 16:48, 23 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a source?

According to Magosci (A History of Ukraine, in a section about the name, pp. 171–2), Ukrajina was used in late 16th century Polish sources to describe "the large eastern palatinate of Kiev, together with Bratslav (after 1569) and Chernihiv (after 1619). With the rise of the Cossacks as a political force in the seventeenth century, the name Ukraine was still used, but once again in a territorially less specific manner. The Cossacks referred to Ukraine as their 'fatherland' or their 'mother,' and western cartographers (Beauplan, Homman) often drew maps indicating that 'Ukraine is the land of the Cossacks.'"

Subtelny (Ukraine: a History, p. 105) writes "However, by the end of the 16th century, the focus of events shifted back to the east, to the lands of the Dnieper basin that had long been partially depopulated. In that vast frontier, which at that time was specifically referred to as Ukraina – the land on the periphery of the civilized world – the age-old struggle of sedentary population against the nomads flared up with renewed intensity, fueled by the bitter confrontation between Christianity and Islam." —Michael Z. 2005-09-23 17:06 Z

map

Can User:Riwnodennyk please explain why do you persist in inserting a map which apart from numerous spelling errors, has no reference and on top of that bares all the traits of Original research wrt its geographical accuracy. I should not mention that it is actually being nominated for deletion on commons as we speak. Now per WP:V and WP:RS, these criteria are sufficient to remove it from the article. --Kuban Cossack (По-балакаем?)