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terraskin

My article was removed due to violations. I was wondering what exactly I can do to remake the page so that it fits the guidelines. I am in no way interested in promoting any business. I just want to add the facts about this product, that may very well be the future of packaging and paper. Was there key things that were in the article that need to be removed? Was it the entire article? Should I try to be more brief? Explain more? Any help in guiding me in the right direction would be great. If there are users who specialize in creating pages, can I send them the information? Thanks ahead of time for your understanding. Bobbyksehgal (talk) 18:58, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for your help.

Bobbyksehgal (talk) 21:10, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

RE: Soft Charisma

1. The COI guidelines clearly state that it's strongly discouraged to not COI edit, however, they state that you should follow the neutral point of view policy. I have done this with the article.

2. As for notability, that's probably correct. Anyway, I'd rather not be notable by Wikipedia's 'standards'. This middle ground is a much more suitable environment.

--Sc0ttkclark (talk) 22:36, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

About The Glocester Sea Serpent and misunder standings

Frist of im sorry about the missunder standing and second of i didnt have as much information as the other artical because i started it yester day and I was saving it so i wouldn't lose the information.

§C.JD 22:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)--C.JD 22:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Kyle Justin

For giving an excellent reply where others may have just tried to get away from the question, I award Gnfnrf this Kindness Barnstar. -Prodego ^talk

Hello Gnfnrf, I am contacting you because I am in need of help and you have helped me previously. I'm fairly new to Wikipedia. I noticed some reverted edits by user 69.239.112.1 to the Kyle Justin article performed by another moderator. This 69.239.112.1user has edited the article several times, performing destructive edits. I believe these edits are covered under the vandalism policy as they are repeated and unnecessary. She has edited the article more than a few times, deleting necessary information, claiming it as redundant, when it is not. The information she has deleted is either not referenced elsewhere in the article or is necessary to repeat in order to properly lay out a time-line of events. I created this article for a musician I am fond of and myself and several others have contributed edits and citations. I believe we have cited the article well. I am looking for help to prevent further vandalism by this article, as she has performed these same edits about 5 times. The user 69.239.112.1 is actually a woman named Jessicka Fodera of the band Scarling (both have Wiki articles) who is a former bandmate in Scarling of Kyle Justin's. I know this because it is the same IP that she uses on an old band's message board that I moderated on. She also only edits her own pages if you see her contributions. I believe she has also has attempted to vandalize other articles. I believe she is removing information out of spite and for her own motives, not to make Wikipedia or the article better. I am seeking help in preventing further vandalism. I sought help from another user named writingmodification but I don't believe they are an administrator. Any help, advice, or recommendations are greatly appreciated. Thanks ahead of time. I am perturbed and perplexed. -Matt, M. W. Eilers 03:30, 27 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Godblessyrblackheart (talk • contribs)

First, I'd just like to say that I'm impressed with how much you've done with the Kyle Justin article thus far. I'll admit, when I first encountered it, I thought it was never going to reasonably meet Wikipedia article standards, which is why I redirected it. You've demonstrated that I was wrong, and I commend you. On to your current situation, now. I agree with your assessment of the edits in question; while there is some repetition, that is OK on Wikipedia. In fact, everything in the lead section of an article should be repeated, in greater detail, later in the article.

However, it appears to me that your fundamental difference with this user is a content dispute. That is to say, I don't see any reason not to assume good faith and believe that they are making edits that they believe make the article better. Just because someone is wrong does not mean that they are a vandal.

So, what do I recommend you do? Try to engage the user in a discussion about why you think the article should be the way it is. I would use either the IP's talkpage at User_talk:69.239.112.1 or the article talkpage. Leave a polite and detailed note, explaining why you think the article should read the way it does, citing article style guides as appropriate (WP:BETTER is a good place to start for those). If your changes are reverted after you've posted this, refer to it in the edit summary the next time you re-revert (and watch out for the three revert rule.

If this doesn't work, then you can try some of Wikipedia's dispute resolution tools, like a third opinion or a request for comment. Of course, if the other user becomes more obviously disruptive, then you have other channels open to you.

Lastly, I'd just like to point out that I am not an administrator; I'm just another editor like you. Nearly everything on Wikipedia can be, and is, accomplished by regular editors. Administrators are just regular editors with a few extra technical tools to accomplish a few tasks that ordinary editors can't (like user blocks and article deletion).

I hope this has helped you. I understand that dealing with another editor who seems to be worsening articles is frustrating, but remember, Wikipedia consensus is a powerful force that can be very effective at keeping good edits and purging bad edits, if you let it work. gnfnrf (talk) 06:28, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

When I left the talkback tag, I noticed that it looks like you've gotten some other editors involved, who may be treating this a little more like vandalism and a little less like a content dispute. That may be a better way to go, but I'd still try to assume good faith and open a discussion about the edits, even if only because it can show later that you really tried to do things by consensus. gnfnrf (talk) 06:32, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Treating it like it might be a COI problem actually. But excellent reply, saved me a lot of typing you did. Prodego ^talk 15:54, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

Mrs. Spencer

Good call on the redirect for Mrs. Spencer - knowing nothing about The Simpsons, I didn't spot the link! Unusual? Quite ^TalkQu 21:31, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Norman McGuire

Hello, I am Ginger Simmons, agent for Norman McGuire. I am adding Mr. McGuire's information to Wikepedia and it looks like the system is trying to delete the information. Mr. McGuire is an up and coming actor who has had 3 very big roles this year. He has worked on two shows with one Emmy Award "Breaking Bad" and the other a Emmy Nomination "Friday Night Lights". Mr. McGuire is also being cast on several other TV Shows in the next few months. If you look at his information you can see his information in acurate. His IMDB page will verify his information: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3179896/resume

Mr. McGuire has also been cast as one of the principal actors on the film "Cottonmouth Creek" with notable actor Billy Bob Thorton.

Please keep the information on the site as the fan base increases there will be a listing. As of now it is an embarrassment to have the "This article is being considered for deletion in accordance with Wikipedia's deletion policy" come up on the search.

Thank you, Ginger Simmons Manager - Norman McGuire Twin Light Films