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	This article was nominated for deletion on January 16 2006. The result of the discussion was keep. An archived record of this discussion can be found here.
	This article was nominated for deletion on July 11 2008.

Speedy Deletion Comments 2006

I do not believe that this article should be considered for speedy deletion, because Fr. John Corapi has caused many conversions to the Catholic Fatih, and Dan Millman has an article. This article has been posted for five minutes, at least give it a chance. If I needed information about Fr. John Corapi, my first resource would be Wikipedia, as I am sure many other people would. Tony 20:43, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Perhaps we should move it to AFD, where it can be decided better? Tony 21:37, 16 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Father Corapi has been an important and very influential figure to many in the Catholic Church in the United States. I look forward to seeing more about him here. D323P 00:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Televangelist/Quote

The facts are that he is conservative and a televangelist and the quote on his attitudes to abortion is true and central to his views. Please don't revert without further discussion. Mccready 01:20, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thats fine. I agree with those facts, however, they have no place in the very beginning of the article. Perhaps we could place them farther in the article? Tvaughn05 _e ^(Talk)_(Contribs) 02:09, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks T, I prefer them up front (let's not be coy). It adds neglibigly to intro length but gives compacted info - a mark of a good encyclopedic entry. Curious why you think they have "no place" in intro Mccready 12:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I do not agree with those facts

Conservative is a political label and does not fit well. That should be changed to Orthodox.

Televangelist is a label for evangelical Chistians. He is a Catholic Priest, scholar, and speaker who has his teaching series broadcast on television and radio.

You cannot agree or disagree with a fact. A fact is a fact. You perhaps mean to say these are not facts. In any event, I'll try to accommodate you in the spirit of producing a good encyclopedic article. Let's say orthodox and that he appears often on TV. Whats' the point of the other deletions? Please sign your posts with four tildes which will automatically generate a time stamp and user name or IP address. Mccready 11:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The addition of one comment made in the initial description can be viewed as "antagonistic". Wouldn't it be prudent to a category for many comments? As opposed to attempting to bias an entire article injecting just one comment? MT (this comment was placed by mt7 24 April. Please sign your comments with 4 tildes - this automatically puts your user name and time. Mccready 07:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

The fact that he opposed Roe v Wade is not antagonistic. Some would find it pleasing, some wouldn't. Mccready 07:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

His quotes should be expressed yet injecting ONE "out of context" in an initial description is clearly slanted. The goal is to be nonprejudicial. mt7

Nomination for Speedy Deletion 2008

I nominate Fr. John Corapi for speedy deletion. This article is apparently being used as an advertisement to ligitimize this individual's personal television and internet marketing. The article has repeatedly been censored and edited to embellish Corapi's bio and to eliminate a NPOV. Most of the POV push has been by a non-registered user or users (probably the individual himself). If the subject of this individual's bogus claims to elite military service cannot be explained or included here, the entire article should be deleted. Corapi is, by his own video promotion, a phony ex-"Green Beret"[1] veteran. This is significant because it's a lie and a fraudulent claim by someone who's making a living promoting the truth. Corapi's fraudulent claims need to be a matter of public record. If there's to be any record of him on Wikipedia at all, first, it should candidly note his bogus and illegal claims. Dr. B. R. Lang (talk) 21:36, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly disagree. Father Corapi is notable, whether you like him or not. I do belive this article has POV issues. I have heard "Father" on several occassions call himself a Green Beret and that he was "in Combat" despite what is known to be true (that is, he was not). I have heard him make other ridiculous and exaggerated claims (a plus 400 pound benchpress at 17!). However, that is not why you would nominate for deletion, Doctor. Fix the article if it has issues.--Mike - Μολὼν λαβέ 06:27, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Impostors added

I've added the [[Imposter[[ category link to this article because of Fr. Corapi's fraudulent claims of elite military service. This individual and/or his surrogates shall probably reverse it promptly as they've done previously. I suggest that the entire article be deleted if it cannot be maintained with true information. Dr. B. R. Lang (talk) 21:49, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Corapi is a living person, and so this article falls under WP:BLP. That policy requires that all informaiton, especially anythig derogatory, requires reliable sources. Until such time as there are adequate sources for the assertion that the subject is an impostor we cannot include the article in that category. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 21:58, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Corapi's military service is a matter of public record. He's made a fraudulet claim of being a member of the U.S. Army Special Forces, which is also a matter of public record and in the public domain. See: Phony Veterans

See Bob Levy (politician), former Mayor of Atlantic City, and another living Imposter and Green Beret-wannabe. Corapi has stolen the honor of better men than himself, and now he's making a living promoting himself as something he's not. Dr. B. R. Lang (talk) 23:20, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

See Stolen Valor Act of 2005

We have sources that repeat Corapi's claim to have at least trained as a Green Beret. Do we have any reliable sources that directly contradicts that claim? Levy was convicted of making false claims, so there's no problem at all about including that information in his biography. From what I can see of Corapi's life, he hasn't even been indicted yet. WP policies don't require even an indictment, but highly reliable sources are required for extraordinary claims. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 23:34, 25 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Current Status ?

I would have sworn that I once saw Fr. Corapi give a talk where he briefly said that he was retiring from either traveling the country giving mission talks at parishes or retiring from traveling the country on speaking tours. I don’t know if it was due to his health or from lack of interest by audiences or what. It was done in a rather offhanded way. Does anyone know which one he stopped doing and should the bio be edited to reflect accordingly? SacredSpermWhale (talk) 07:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've heard this as well. I can try to find out more info. SkeletorEditor (talk) 05:15, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know how accurate the information is, since it doesn't appear to be sourced. But apparently someone has edited the article to say that it is true that his speaking tours have ended but it is due to a serious decline in his health.OfficialVaticanJanitor (talk) 04:21, 23 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]