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Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
Multi-Licensing Guide
Free the Rambot Articles Project

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

Option 1

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:

OR

Option 2

I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:

Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. – Ram-Man ^{(comment) (talk)}[[]] 23:43, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)

Featured Picture

An image you uploaded, Image:Alpamayo.jpg, has just become a Featured Picture! Congratulations, and thank you for uploading it. Raven4x4x 07:04, 26 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I created this template to standardize the appearance of bivouac.com citations. I borrowed from {{cite gnis}} which I just found. Please take a look at the new template and let me know what you think. --DRoll (talk) 06:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like a good idea to provide some kind of low level protection to {{cite bivouac}} and {{cite gnis}}. Thanks. --DRoll (talk) 06:59, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good to me. I had found {{bivouac}} before that and had started using it but I guess for consistency it makes sense to add the cite prefix. As for protection, once there are hundreds of articles using it, someone will come along to protect it as a high usage template. I could do it now but I would be heavily biased in doing so at this point so I will hold off. RedWolf (talk) 00:34, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well it replaced all the occurrences of the template bivouac with cite bivouac in the article space and noted on the bivouac page that it was deprecated. The two templates differ considerably in the way they are coded. The new template uses {{cite web}} internally. Coding this way will insure that the the new template will always generate the same kind of output as cite web. I realize that this was a rather big step for a user to take without discussion somewhere but I thought that since the template bivouac was not used more than fifteen times in the article space that my action was within reason. Of course I am willing to discuss this and take any remedial action that might become necessary. Thank. --DRoll (talk) 05:15, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

British Mount Everest Expediton 1924

Here we are..

..now it's up to you. Take it as a gift from GER. Sorry for the partly bad english & Good hunting the vocabulary mistakes etc. ;-) --

Thanks for the great translation effort. Moved to User:RedWolf/Worksheet for copy edit. RedWolf (talk) 18:48, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I now have substituted the deleted photo by another modified photo from the north face. I actually have no idea why the first modified photo from North Face was deleted. You? Copyright violation? For reasons of CC-By- = non modifiable?

Regards --80.145.210.53 (talk) 20:52, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I'm a bit puzzled as well by the switch. I don't really see a problem with the original image. It is a modified image but was licensed under the same license as the original image. I will ask the editor about it. RedWolf (talk) 00:07, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some further picture explanations..

Pls. feel free to use them anywhere around the Everest articles. --80.145.187.72 (talk) 18:33, 30 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

North Face picture

green line	Normal route, mainly the Mallory route 1924, with high camps on 7700 and 8300 m, the nowadays 8300 camp is a little bit to west (2 triangles)
red line	Great Couloir or Norton Couloir
dark blue line right	Hornbein Couloir
light blue line	Messners traverse through the north face, on his solo ascent via Norton Couloir, 1980
†1	Mallory found 1999 on the Parallelogram Terrace Field 8160m (+ ~15 smashed corpses according to Conrad Anker)
?	2nd step, foot at 8605m, height ca. 30 m, difficulty 5.9 or 5.10
(a)	spot at ca. 8325 m which was George Ingle Finch’s highest point w. oxygen, 1922
(b)	spot at 8572 m at the western border of the couloir where Edward Felix Norton went in 1924 without artificial oxygen
blue line left	Zakharov couloir (direct ascent to the NE ridge without north col), Russians
pink line	middle northeast ridge, Russell Brice et al. 1982 down to north col, Japanese up to summit
yellow line	part of the route Hornbein, Unsoeld 1963 "The West Ridge" coming from Western Qwm going into north face into Hornbein Couloir (dotted "behind" the west ridge)
orange line	(nearly) complete west ridge by Yugoslavians 1979
(c)	west ridge area omitted by the Yugoslavians
(d)	west ridge area causing Hornbein & Unsoled to go into the north wall

Kangshung Face picture

Kangshung face, Mt. Everest from east , green the nowadays nomal route north which is mainly identic to the climb of Mallory and Irvine

green line	Normal route, mainly the Mallory route 1924, via high camps on 7700 and 8300 m, via "yellow band", exit cracks & upper NE ridge w. "Second Step")
red line / no.12	lower and middle NE ridge
blue line	upper SE ridge (part of the «Hillary route» 1953 etc. coming from Western Qwm (in the shadow behind Mt. E.) meeting point with the orange route 7a is the south col meeting point with the orange route 7b is the balcony
orange line 7a	1988 US and GB ascent (Stephen Vernables et al.)
orange line 7b	1982 US ascent (Carlos Buhler, Kim Momb et al.)
orange line 7c	“Phantasy Ridge” (acc. to a speech of George Mallory), no successful ascent until 2008, tried by Cathy O’Dowd and Ian Woodall; they came half way to NE ridge & Pinnacles
1	summit of Mount Everest 8848m
3rd 2nd 1st	steps on the Upper NE ridge 8700m, 8605m and 8530m
4e	Lhotse Shar
5	Nuptse
6	“Peak 38”
8	“Three Pinnacles” where Joe Tasker and Peter Boardman died 1982 (2nd pinnacle)
9	North Col on 7050m
14	East Rongbuk Glacier
10	Changtse (northern summit)
11	ABC Advanced Base Camp (North) on the upper East Rongbuk Glacier in front of the ice wall to north col
15	West Rongbuk Glacier (coming from the Cho Oyu and Gyachung Kang flanks)
17	Lingtren
17k	Kala Patthar, “Everest Trekking View Point” from the south side
18	Khumbutse (summit west of Lho La which is the connection on 6006m of the glacier systems of Rongbu and Khumbu and is also the tibetian-nepalian borderline / like SE ridge & W ridge. Lho La is "foot point" of the Everest W ridge.)
19	north ridge // below of fig. 19 the Zakharov Couloir offering a tough ascent to NE ridge without going via north col
20	Main Rongbuk Glacier
21	upper Kharta Glacier (Mallory 1921, where discovered the access to North Col)
22	Camp II of the early british expeditions 1922+1924
23	to the Base camp on foot of the Main Rongbuk Glacier and to Rongbuk Gompa (Monastery)
24	Rapiu La (connection from Eastern Rongbuk Glacier System to Kangshung Glacier System)

DYK for British Mount Everest Expedition 1924

On 8 December, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article British Mount Everest Expedition 1924, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

DYKBot (talk) 22:17, 8 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats

for the "Did You Know"-Article on main page from germany. :-) --170.56.58.148 (talk) 09:04, 10 December 2008 (UTC) (otherwise writing as a 80.145.mmm.nnn IP)[reply]

Thank you. I of course must give the utmost thanks to the German Wikipedia for the original content as well as to the translator(s) who did an exceptional job. RedWolf (talk) 02:22, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks from Germany for the kind flowers. :-)) BTW some efforts else as it was not only translating but also editing the photographs of the North Face & the Kangshung face from space. Front page - there also is a similar thing in the GER WP - "Artikel des Tages" (article of the day) which mostly is a recently elected "excellent!" article of the featured articles program. (& the 1924 articel actually is "lesenswert" // (worth wile reading.. ..weahh weeping - my english.. ;-))) I tried to motivate some people to put the german article also on the GER WP front page but there is a heap of mountaineering enthusiasts being enthusiastic for the work itself & alone. Nobody coming out of it's username or IP lurk mode. ;-) kind regards to the EN language brothers. BTW There is also the 1922 article.. A rough translation wanted? To smoothen it afterwars.. ;-))) Yess OK - there are no real secrets stories like this really fascinating M & I thing.. but this "The Other George" story of George Ingle Finch.., chemist & experimentator to the ox bottles &a strong mountaineer going up to 8325m w. bottled ox.. world record.. --80.145.251.244 (talk) 19:34, 11 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the work done on the photos was excellent, really helps the reader in visualizing the routes. I would definitely be quite interested in copy-editing a translation of the 1922 article as well. I found the 1924 article a very interesting read and while as you say, the 1922 expedition may not have the intriguing Mallory & Irvine angle to it, I think it would make a great companion piece to the 1924 article. When the translation is ready, just copy it into my Worksheet and drop me a line. Thanks. RedWolf (talk) 06:52, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here we are. ;-) Again: many exculpations from my side for my lousy english & best wishes to fit it up while copyediting & Good luck. --80.145.188.203 (talk) 09:33, 12 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Many THX for copyediting the 1922 Expedition article. Great work! & have a nice slide switchover (?) to 2009. We will have fondue (beef deepfried in fat w. spicy sauces) with the family. And we will see TV, once per year only: Freddy Frinton performing the butler of Miss Sophie in "Dinner For One" :-) It's real "Kult" in Germany. -- 80.145.206.43 (talk) 02:53, 31 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]