Talk:Banknotes of Zimbabwe

A lot of this article has no citations. Especially the bit about Mugabe "pulling out of the Commonwealth". Since when did he do that. It is the commonwealth that will not let him be part. That is why Mbeki keeps complaining isn't it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by HandGrenadePins (talk • contribs) 17:46, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

Proposal for renaming article and merger of Banknotes of the Cargill Cotton Group (Zimbabwe)

If everyone is happy, I would like to rename this article to become simply Banknotes of Zimbabwe, whilst merging the article Banknotes of the Cargill Cotton Group (Zimbabwe). Comments welcome. --Marianian (talk) 16:17, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

I rather like that idea. Go for it.Mangwanani ^(talk) 19:44, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

I actually dont like the bit below the set of new banknotes. I just don't get it. I know you're working on it but I thought I would bring it up coz it irritates me. lol. The article is looking much better however... Mangwanani ^(talk) 19:33, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

That's the old style text that I am working on at the moment. However care should be taken to avoid losing data. --Marianian (talk) 21:56, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

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Z1$200,000 varieties

Are there actually only 4 varieties of this note? Or is there up to 6 listed at the very bottom of the article? It wouldn't be too much a surprise though if the latter is true; given the number of $200,000 notes printed compared to all other denominations of the same series... Rubycored (talk) 21:30, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

Apart from the ZA-prefix replacements which I hope to cover soon, there is only one confirmed issue of such. --Marianian (talk) 20:35, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Z$, ZN$, and ZB$

Why is the third Z$ abbreviated "ZB$"? I can see the "N" standing for "new", but the "B"? Does it refer to (ten) Billions? Heian-794 (talk) 12:54, 18 November 2008 (UTC)

B is derived from (ten) billion, which was the ratio of the re-denomination. I could have chosen T, but it could have been confused with 'thousand'. --Marianian (talk) 14:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

So these terms aren't actually used in any official capacity, just for clarification on wiki? Mangwanani ^(talk) 19:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Yes, primarily because of the number of incarnations the dollars went through. Unlike Turkey, which used TL and YTL during the 2005 reform, the RBZ virtually used the same expression as well as the same ISO currency code for all three incarnations. I cannot confirm yet, whether Zimbabwe has been stripped of its ISO code. --Marianian (talk) 15:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

The ISO website gives Zimbabwe the number 935 and the code ZWR - just looked on their website... Mangwanani ^(talk) 20:20, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

So I suppose we could use ZWD, ZWN and ZWR? --Marianian (talk) 20:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

I must confess that I prefer the "Z3$" notation being used in the Zimbabwean Dollar article. "B" for "(ten) billion" seems a bit misleading, since it's 10^10, not an actual "billion" (consider Hungary's "B-Pengö" for their (long) billion pengö notes). It's just not possible to indicate a specific redenomination value using a single letter of the alphabet. "N" for "new" has become standard, and "R" obviously means "revalued" or "redenominated", but what would a potential fourth dollar be called? 114.145.90.198 (talk) 02:58, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

It depends of the revaluation ratio. Loosely Z4$ but we have to keep an eye on the ISO codes. If they chose not to issue one for the 4th dollar then there could be big trouble for currency notation standards. --Marianian (talk) 15:27, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I think we need to remember what ISO stands for at this moment - International Organization for Standardization the key word being Standardization. I think that we should use the official terms for the different dollars which Marianian mentioned earlier on - ZWD, ZWN, ZWR. Should there be a fourth change then either the ISO will change the code accordingly but I think it will be pretty self explanatory within the article anyways - its no longer as vague as it was before Marianian started working on it. WOW that was a long sentence. Hope you got all that.... Mangwanani ^(talk) 16:45, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

 In progress: Work has begun in converting Z$ to ZWD, ZN$ to ZWN and ZB$ to ZWR, some will be simply in $s. New additions should use these notations. --Marianian (talk) 10:14, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Black borders on banknote images

I am raising this point after discovering more dimensions, which allows me to size banknotes according to the 0.7 pixel per millimetre rule. However, the result has been quite distorted by the presence of thick black borders. it'll be grateful if all can help to reduce this: I've already uploaded the two recent issues without them. Cheers! --Marianian (talk) 20:47, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

I'm working on removing black borders and reducing the sizes of the images so they are fair use... Mangwanani ^(talk) 17:51, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Banknotes of the Zimbabwean Dollar (Z$) (Old Version)

Below are the old text from what's left of the old version the article which I have moved to here. I wonder what can be salvaged from here... --Marianian (talk) 17:59, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

RBZ traveller's cheques 2003: Zimbabwe's central bank, the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe (RBZ), followed a few months later with a series of traveler's cheques in the following denominations: Z$1,000; Z$5,000; Z$10,000; Z$20,000; Z$50,000 and Z$100,000. These proved unpopular with the general public due to the need to produce ID both during issue and encashment of these, and also because of the obvious limited single usage. Commercial banks levied a commission on all traveller's cheques, including the ones issued by the Reserve Bank of Zimbabwe. These are quite difficult to find.

Example of RBZ Traveller's Cheque Design:

Denomination	Obverse Design	Reverse Design
ZWD 20,000	click for image	click for image

RBZ bearer cheques 2006 (Z$50,000; Z$100,000 and Z$1 million): On 3 January 2006 the expiry date of all RBZ bearer cheques was once again extended. The new expiry date was 30 June 2006. On 1 February 2006 a Z$50,000 RBZ bearer cheque was issued. Expiry date was 31 December 2006. On 1 June 2006 a Z$100,000 bearer check was issued. At the time of its issue, this new bearer cheque was insufficient to purchase a loaf of bread. [1] In July, aborted plans to introduce a $1 million bearer cheque were superseded by a currency revaluation and all bearer cheques were demonetized on 21 August 2006.

Bearer cheques Z$50,000 and 100,000 dated 1 October 2005 have subsequently emerged. It is assumed that they were issued at the same time as the later issues dated 1 February 2006 and 1 June 2006 respectively.-->

Other bearer cheques: Other companies issued bearer cheques in rural districts of Zimbabwe. (These are not regarded as authorised issues by the RBZ.)

This section could be integrated in the way the Standard/Cargil Cotton bearer cheques are. If we have no information for the popular culture section at all, surely it would be better to delete it until we do....? Mangwanani ^(talk) 19:09, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I have in my hard disk a Daily Nation cartoon featuring a $5 billion Agro Cheque with Robert Mugabe on. The caption reads "The only Zero that should be removed to curb inflation in Zimbabwe". --Marianian (talk) 18:28, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't find any of the information pretty usefull, it should be culled without issue dates or denomination, as they already exist. es see what you do. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 04:57, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

10m and 10B notes

Has anyone actually seen them yet? I haven't been able to find their existance on eBay either... Rubycored (talk) 01:02, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

Here is a 10 bill note http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Zimbabwe-10-Billion-Dollar-Note-New-Currency-19-12-08_W0QQitemZ270320273280QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Coins_Banknotes_GL?hash=item270320273280&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A1%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 Enlil Ninlil (talk) 07:26, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

10B is in circullation for one week, but 10M is almost one month old and there is no sign wheather it realy exists. 50M seems rare, too - there was any on ebay since Dec, 2nd. 83.14.232.140 (talk) 11:36, 26 December 2008 (UTC)

It does exsist but I haven't got a good one yet or I cannot find a good quality fair use image yet. Would crumpled ones do? --Marianian (talk) 11:09, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Banknotes of Zimbabwe

Many thanks for the excellent article being prepared on the banknotes of Zimbabwe. I would however like to prppose the following amendments]

1. With picks 1a, 1b, 1c, 1d, 65, 75, & 79 the animla depicted is an African Buffalo, not a Water Buffalo which is an Asian species.

2. With picks 61 to 64 (Agro-cheques) the animals depicted are giraffe not zebra

3. In picks 69, 76 & 83 the tree-like structures are not palm trees but a species of aloe (probably Aloe excelsa - a tree aloe found widely in Zimbabwe)

Geoff brakspear (talk) 14:38, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

 Done --Marianian (talk) 11:16, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

2009 Banknote Series

Hello, my recent edits to this article confirms the issue of the new series in mid-January, which will involve the $20 billion and $50 billion denomination. --Marianian (talk) 14:43, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

So most likely their will be another 100 bill note soon then. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 10:19, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Real challenge is 100T note (10^14), equals German 10^14 marks 1923 denomination. Could it be? Z4$ has no sense, so maybe... 83.14.232.140 (talk) 16:18, 11 January 2009 (UTC)