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Lady in the Lake trial

Nominator(s): J Milburn (talk)
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I'm nominating this article for featured article because it's been a good article for a while, and now that the appeal has failed, I don't think the story will develop much in the short term. I am willing to make fixes based on suggestions here, and feel that the article isn't too far from featured status is ready to go through FAC. J Milburn (talk) 19:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: I've not read the article, but if by your own admission it is not yet up to FA standard, ("isn't too far from featured status"), then it has been brought here too soon. Peer review, not FAC, is the place for suggestions and fixes. It is a stated requirement for nomination (see above) that you ensure that when you bring an article here, it meets all the FA criteria. You should consider withdrawing and taking the article to PR. Brianboulton (talk) 00:33, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • I understand what you are saying, but I don't think I really meant that. I meant that I don't see any reason why this could not be raised to featured status- another editor (with a few FAs under their belt) reccomended that I bring the article here some time ago, so I am acting on their judgement now I am sure the article is stable. J Milburn (talk) 16:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image review - All three images are fair use and, in my opinion, they satisfy WP:NFCC. Awadewit (talk) 16:18, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Otherwise, sources look okay, links checked out with the link checker tool. Ealdgyth - Talk 20:03, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
      • The North West Evening Mail and News and Star websites are online copies of local newspaper articles- I occasionally read the Evening Mail, but I am outside the catchment zone of the News and Star. That said, I know all of them, if they appeared online (which they did) were published in the paper too. Inside Time is a magazine for prisoners, which (I assume) are online copies of hard-copy articles. What's the best way around the deadlinks? As for the Sandra Lean book, it has been discussed by reputable sources (Evening Mail, Evening News, and so on) and forms an interesting element of the case as a whole. Lean may not be well known, but her views are respected by the press and so I think we can consider her book a reliable source. Looking through the book, it seems legit- I work in a bookshop, so I see a lot of the "local history book" types with stickers on the back- this is printed professionally, cites all its sources in the bibliography and comes across as a (rather specialist) serious work of non-fiction, by someone who knows what they are writing about. The book is also recognised by Park's supporters, though was in no way written or influenced by them. MurderUK is probably not reliable- I put that down to the fact I wrote most of this article a while ago. Same with the italics- that's something I'm rather fussy about now. I'll see what I can do about that in a sec. J Milburn (talk) 22:41, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not questioning the reliability of thoses sites (only the murderuk.com site is questionable on reliablity) but was pointing out that the links do not work. They need to be repaired to work or the links need to be removed and the references fixed to point to print versions of the articles. And if the publisher for the Lean book is a self-publisher site, it's effectively a self-published work and needs to satisfy WP:SPS. Ealdgyth - Talk 22:53, 13 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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