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New York State Route 382

Nominator(s): Mitch32(Go Syracuse)
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I'm nominating this article for featured article because I feel that it does meet the FA criteria. Short as it is, the highway no longer exists, and is actually severed by the Southern Tier Expressway. I tried my best to get the information I could in. As usual, all comments are welcomed.Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 01:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note, I am a WikiCup 2009 competitor, but this is more for a FT I have been working on, which is a more important reason.Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 04:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I love the notion of a FA on a "highway" just 1.3km long, but the prose would benefit from some tightening. As an example, the very first paragraph:

New York State Route 382 (NY 382) was a state highway in the town of Red House in Cattaraugus County, New York. The highway, 0.8 miles (1.3 km) in length, extended from NY 17 to the Red House entrance of Allegany State Park. The route was assigned in the 1930s and removed in the 1970 following the construction of Southern Tier Expressway's Interchange 19, whcih severed the highway. The NY 382 designation, now unused, is reserved by the New York State Department of Transportation as a future designation for NY 88. Maps and postcards showed the area of NY 382 and NY 17 as two local roads and a bridge over the Allegany River.

My first stab:

New York State Route 382 (NY 382) was a state highway in Red House in Cattaraugus County, New York. The highway, 0.8 miles (1.3 km) long, went from NY 17 to the Red House entrance of Allegany State Park. The name was assigned in the 1930s and removed in the 1970s after the building of Southern Tier Expressway's Interchange 19, which severed the highway. Now unused, the name is reserved by the New York State Department of Transportation as a future name for NY 88. Maps and postcards showed the area of NY 382 and NY 17 as two local roads and a bridge over the Allegany River.

I've incidentally corrected two typos in that -- rather alarming in a first paragraph. Morenoodles (talk) 11:49, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replaced the paragraph. Looks good :) - Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 13:00, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Image review: all images are okay. Jappalang (talk) 13:10, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done.Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 16:27, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I am continuing my campaign of advocating for a minimum level of notability for featured articles. In my opinion a state highway that was less than a mile long and no longer exists is simply not important enough to have a featured article. I understand that the FA criteria don't explicitly demand a higher level of notability for FAs than for articles in general, so this is simply an expression of my personal opinion. Looie496 (talk) 17:43, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Dumb reason to oppose. NY 382 is the only one of its kind and is notable in its own way. Your oppose is unactionable, so it can be null and voided I believe.Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 18:38, 24 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Absurd. The place to discuss criteria changes is Wikipedia talk:Featured article criteria, not on individual nominations. --Laser brain (talk) 00:11, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Echoing the two above comments, this is a POINTy oppose. Dabomb87 (talk) 00:21, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Come on people. While I disagree with Looie496, I think he makes a reasonable point (or "POINT") and does so politely. Actually I'm touched by his point, because it raises the mind-boggling possibility of an FA being sent to AfD for non-notability of subject matter. If that did happen, the AfD would surely fail, but it might be fun to watch. (And no, I am not a lover of what's dismissively referred to as drama.) Morenoodles (talk) 09:15, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comments The bullets look tacky. --Rschen7754 (T C) 19:52, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed; I removed them, as it's redundant to what's already in the text. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone 21:10, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I also don't really like the heading structure - "The highway is designated" just looks weird (try "Designation"?) and "Post-designation" should probably be put under History. --Rschen7754 (T C) 21:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Mitch32(Go Syracuse) 11:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Why should a route that WASN'T even a mile long be nominated as a FA? Plus the route has been defunct for almost 40 years. I also don't like that for years existed, you have a rough estimate of 1930s-1970s. Everything should be perfect if you want "Feature status"! And I must say that there are still tons of ACTIVE state route pages that need a lot of work. I don't understand why so much time is being placed into making a dead state route FA. --GroundhogTheater (talk) 17:41, 26 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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