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Too good not to be better

I haven't contributed, and I've tweaked now just for forcefulness and clarity, but may I express a couple of thoughts anyway?

  • "Louis XIV was the son of a Spanish princess, Anne of Austria": this is an awkward phrase. Wouldn't "Habsburg" do better?
    • She was called "Anne of Austria" because the Habsburg dynasty in Spain was known as the Austrian dynasty. john k 13:35, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
      • Yes John is right. Furthermore not only were they known by everybody in Spain as "Los Austria" but when trying to differentiate them for the other Austrians (those from Austria) they used to refer to the "Austrias menores" and "Austrias mayores" meaning the "minor" and the "mayor."--Anagnorisis 21:49, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • (caption) " allowing his son to inherit Spain would seriously compromise the balance of power in Europe" Paradoxically, cutting "seriously" would make the compromise more serious.
  • "the renunciation was widely seen as invalid" By the French diplomats and lawyers, one assumes: a detail would be good here. The phrase "was widely seeen" should be banned!
  • "in 1697, the issue of the Spanish succession was becoming critical" Charles II's senility should be made explicit.
  • without consulting the Spanish, who vehemently objected" A linked reference to the cortès might be good, if that's what "the Spanish" actually means. (I've inserted a mention of them lower down in the text.)
    • No, it means the Spanish government - the King and his ministers, who did not want to partition the Spanish lands. The Cortes were only Castilian, in any case, so they wouldn't particularly care about what happened to Milan. john k 13:35, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • "allotted Austria that which it desired most: the Spanish territories in Italy" Shouldn't they be specified, without too minute detail? I know they come in at the end...
  • Though Duke of X is the norm, the form duc de X doesn't take a capital. Perhaps no one cares.
    • We've had some discussion of this. While in French "duc de X" doesn't take a capital, I think, given that it's referring to a person in a context that would take a capital in English, it should probably be capitalized in an English article. john k 13:35, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Text is missing from the sentence "Marlborough for Portugal and Savoy had defected to the other side."
  • If Blenheim is really the climax, then it's not emphasized strongly enough.
  • "In 1706, the Earl of Galway led an invasion of Spain " Since Berwick is on the French side, the nature of Galway's force (English? mixed?) might indicate more clearly his British allegiance.
  • "(although there was some sense in France that this renunciation was illegal)" Was there even a public whisper of this? Shall I look it up in Saint-Simon?
    • The French foreign minister, Torcy, believed the renunciation was illegal. So did all of Louis XIV's legal experts. It was generally seen to be highly questionable. When Louis XV caught smallpox in 1729, Philip V was sitting at the border waiting to go into France when he inherited it. john k 13:35, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

All in all, what a terrific job! --Wetman 06:17, 4 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Although this article is great, clear, and full of information, some of the red links and linked to stubs should be worked on. Im trying to help Treaty of Baden and Treaty of Rastatt, but any more help would be welcome. Tom 20:18, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Language

  • Why is this featured article using a language like that in the description of the picture ?

Warbox?

Should this article have a warbox?I'm neutral on the subject,but if it doesn't get a warbox their should at the very least be an easy way to navigate the different battles.

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