Talk:David Draiman

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Animal cries

Is the animal like shouts he does his own trademark, or just something that happens in a few songs? I'm not trying to make fun, listen to Violence Fetish on the sickness album, and Down with the sickness on the same album. Jackpot Den 18:42, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Not really, he does them occasionally. More one the albums The Sickness and Believe. I don't think they're in Ten Thousand Fists. While it is something he's good at and very few can do as well as him, probably not very notable. Senner 22:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

What animal cries are you talking about? Are you speaking of the opening "scream" for Down With the Sickness, and others like it? Those are present on Ten Thousand Fists as well. Pookythegreat 23:47, 20 May 2006

I assume you're referring to his growls, howls, shouts, and "screams", They are less prevalent in Believe, though they are more prevalent in Ten Thousand Fists, and most so in The Sickness, no one else really does it/is able to do it with his depth and power vocally, it's a rather peculiar trademark to have, but it makes him easily recognizable vocally.--Revrant 21:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I wouldn't say that it's exactly a rare talent, but the consistent use in Disturbed's music makes it somewhat of a motif for the band. I recommend adding something about these sounds (I assume you mean those "oo-ah-ah-ah!" and "uh!" things) because it's often what listeners notice first about his vocals. Radical25 04:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

Hey, Draiman has an awesome singing voice, and yes you can recognize his voice anywhere, which makes his music all the better. Firio (talk) 02:25, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

If u guys are talking about the "a-WA-A-A-AH!" thing, I would definitely call that a signature vocal style he has —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thhhh (talk • contribs) 16:36, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

"Best" Performance refrence

Removed "One of David's little known best performances was at his brother Ben's wedding in Jerusalem." - This is pure speculation. -- ×××jijin+machina | Chat Me!××× -- 13:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)does anyone know if draiman ever went to jail because on youtube there's a video with him wearing an orange suit if you go there put in DISTURBED the game

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This video? So what, he is just wearing an orange suit. He was never in prison. It is just a live (and awesome at that) performance/ Ok thanks for telling me that man.

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David has a brother Ben who lives with his wife in Jerusalem.

Hmmm... How is that relevant? I personally don't think it should be included, otherwise we would have to post the relationship status and location of his mother, father, sisters (if he has some), cousins, aunts and uncles, etc. Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 07:04, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

Where did this come from?

David is the only member of Disturbed that is currently single, and he has no qualms with admitting his homosexuality- I am removing the part about him being homosexual because I have never ever heard about that. Unless someone gives a quality source, it should stay removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DevilsAlwaysCry (talk • contribs) 22:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC).

Draiman is not gay

the article has been vandalized, i just checked his biography on this website [[1]] can anyone fix the article please? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Raidentheninja (talk • contribs) 01:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC).

hey that website has the same text as the article! was that text written before or after the text in the article? cuz it could be a violation of copyright! or it could just be a website that copied the biography from the article, heheh... Goodtones 14:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

ok the article seems to be the original one, so there is no violation of copyright, but there is proof that this website doesn't mean anything, since its text is taken from the wikipedia article Goodtones 14:28, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

Draiman´s article fixed

Ok, i just fixed the draiman´s article and removed the "homosexuality" part, ok?

In an interview with Metal Edge Magazine (November 2005, for those who are wondering), Draiman admitted that he was homosexual. When asked what his family thought of his success, he replied: "My family and I haven't been that close since I have become a singer. It may be because it was around the same period of time that I told them about my homosexuality, and since my family is rather conservative, it's the least to say that they were in shock. Since then my family and I haven't talked a lot, and the fact that I'm the lead singer of a metal band doesn't help a whole lot."

Goodtones 10:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

It seems like a reasonable source (I just checked and Disturbed did have an interview with Metal Edge magazine in November 2005). I have fixed the capitals that you took time to fix and reverted the vandalism. Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 10:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

ok ppl, i guess u r right about that, but it´s a shame that he is homosexual cuz my sister really likes him, damn. Can anyone restore the article please? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raidentheninja (talk • contribs)

I think the article should be restored in the version that Goodtones put up. I'll let Goodtones do that. Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 12:31, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

No source given, assuming depreciation despite AGF. Change will be reverted. I've let Goodtones know on his TP what to do if he disagrees. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 16:32, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well there aren't any more sources on the rest of the article. This statement is actually more sourced than the rest of the article. I agree to leave it, Raidentheninja does too, and I'm assuming Goodtones does as well. It cannot hurt the article; Goodtones seems to be correct since Disturbed did have an interview with Metal Edge magazine on November, 2005. Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 19:12, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

That article could have contained anything. If it really said Draiman was gay, don't you think this would have come up earlier? Don't you think there would be any info about it on the net? As long as there is no reference, i can only assume that this is absolutely made up, just like i could say the article said that Draiman was actually Hitlers son, or any other bogus things. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 20:21, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

I think you should remember to assume good faith. Don't you think that if someone had come to vandalise the article they would've simply edited and not let anyone know on the talk page? I think you are taking this too personally. I had heard of this interview before, but since I live in a country that does not permit me to read such magazines and that Metal Edge does not publish on internet, I had never read it (until I did on this talk page). Plus, I say that if his homosexuality must be censored from the article because homophobic people might think less of him, I say we should also censor the fact that he is of Jewish ancestry because anti-Semitic people might not like him anymore. It is the same kind of logic! Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 20:40, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, i´ve been searching on the web, and i couldn´t find anything about draiman´s homosexuality, so i think that he data provided by Goodtones is not a reasonable source. We´ll have to wait until we can find more info on that, or we can quit that part as i said at the beginning. What do you think ppl? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raidentheninja (talk • contribs)

That's what I think. PS: You should sign your posts properly. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 21:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Okay, although I wasn't able to find the interview, I have found a forum who published part of the interview. Now I think this is sufficient evidence for the comment to be added in the article (otherwise there is definitely something personal about this). See here. Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 18:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Forum posts are not reliable. Especially if they are made 3 days ago, 15 months after the article in question came out, and 2 days after the topic came up. :-) ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 20:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I think that it is proof that Goodtones is not making this up. Anyways, the whole article doesn't have a single source, so why should there be extremely reliable sources for this statement? Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 21:05, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

Because it is very crucial info and as of now everything points against this infos authenticy.
We can go back and forth with this for a couple of months if you want, but i can't guarantee to not get bored and stop answering.. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 23:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

I did not read any sources stating that he was heterosexual either! I actually read more stuff saying he was gay than stuff saying he wasn't. What points against the info's authenticity? I am in no way trying to convince you that he is gay, but I am trying to improve the article and include information that I think are important. Now on the other side, you seem to refuse the fact that he is gay and simply take this as a personal threat. There is nothing bad in being gay (at least in my opinion). Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 07:08, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

You fail to get the point; you keep calling his homosexuality a fact, which is yet to be proven. ~ | twsx | ^talk_cont | 07:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Zouavman Le Zouave In Flames 19:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, let´s see, first than nothing, you know how the media is, they invent a lot of rumors about people just to get rating, this is an example, i read on a stupid web page, that Lindsay Lohan is a transsexual!!! i just can´t stop laughing about it cuz i know it´s a lie, what im trying to say is, that there is NO reliable proof which says that Draiman is gay (or something which says that Lohan is a tranny, so don´t worry guys :P), so i think we should leave the article as it is, one thing is the official and reliable information and other very different thing is what people says on the chat rooms. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raidentheninja (talk • contribs)

Okay so let me ask this question: does the official information include interviews with big metal magazines, and if it doesn't, does the official information clearly state that Draiman is heterosexual? Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 07:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

well, i guess we can´t consider that source official cuz i CAN´T find anything which says that Draiman is gay.

and one more thing, how can I sign my comments Twsx? im new on wikipedia

Type ~~~~ after your message. ^^ It will automatically put your username and the date & time. Zouavman Le Zouave _{(Talk to me! • O))))} 07:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok thanks!!! :P what the hell is a Wii??? 02:48, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

David Draiman is well known for accepting and participating in the groupie lifestyle. If you just check out the episode of the MTV Cribs where they do his house, you could see him making several references about that, like about the mirrors on the ceiling in his bedroom, in the shower, and a bunch females in the pond outside. Check it out. I think that qualifies as HETEROsexual. If he's open about his alleged homosexuality, I've never heard about it anywhere.

Лёха Фурсов: Sacrublood 17:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

ok, why did it just do that?

Лёха Фурсов: Sacrublood 17:07, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

Well, I spent over an hour watching the M.O.L. DVD yesterday afternoon and there was many instances of David being sexual with females. I'm confident this would prove the homosexual claim to be false.

Well this is just disgraceful, what an arbitrary attack, we have two people who openly hate Disturbed and, at any opportunity, seek to slander them and rob them of any notability in even obscure articles, but now we're sinking to the level of calling the singer a homosexual, stating quite plainly, that there is no evidence to the contrary.

You know, I'm getting right sick of this slandering, I might just have to watchdog Disturbed articles in the future, this is just to inform the specific parties that I will be bringing a Wikipedia administrator into the fold if I see any more of these veiled attempts at slander for the sake of their own elitism. Revrant 09:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Driaman is not gay, he is engaged, to a woman. Firio (talk) 02:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

Shaven, or naturally bald?

Is Dave's head shaven, or is he naturally bald? I've seen videos where he had a little hair left on the back of his head. Does anyone know for sure? Check out the earlier videos they did.

THX

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see? the four tilde thing doesn't always work ~~~~

Лёха Фурсов: Sacrublood 17:26, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

In the making of The Sickness I recall either Mike Wengren or Dan Donegan commenting on his newly shaven head. 150.101.170.173 14:26, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

If you look up perfect insanity on youtube, and find a live version of it, it has a green background, he has hair, a thin black layer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.66.64.240 (talk) 22:06, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Hit Parader inclusion

I have added David Draiman's inclusion into the Hit Parader magazine Top 100 Heavy-Metal Vocalists of all time via Blabbermouth, he was honored at number forty two, if anyone has an issue with this inclusion, I would suggest you take it up here. Revrant 09:38, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

Anti war, but pro-military

http://www.socom2hoc.com/otherstuff/disturbedfansite/disturbed_fansite.swf

If you click on the bio link, David mentions that he is "flagrantly anti-war but passionately pro-military." Of course, I did read something like this in the official Disturbed website, but I think they changed the website months ago so I don't think their main website mentions any about this. I'm going to see if I can find a better link other than a fansite to confirm this, since I don't think wikipedia use fansites as reliable sources. Because one of my friends mentioned he is pro military and anti-war.

Anyways, if anyone can go google on david draiman or disturbed, please find a better source than what I found.--Dark paladin x (talk) 21:53, 9 May 2008 (UTC)

Obviously this is no good until I remember the source, but they've said they're pro-war when they think it's necessary, but this recent one is not one they find necessary Disturbed286 (talk) 08:59, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

I think he is pro war, particularly against Hezbollah, being from israel. He is anti-bush though so thats a little fuzzy. Should we creat a section dealing with opinion on the Israel-Palestine colfict, or politics in general? http://www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=20495 this link talks about his opinion on that Israeli-Palestine conflict, but I don't know if its a RS --Alex Kolsov (talk) 02:25, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Inside the Fire

I have to say their latest video "Inside the Fire" it is the best song I have heard in a long time. I love the cut verison it shows how senstive David really is! He is a great muscian and I would love to meet him in person. Who woulda thought he wanted to be a Rabbi once. David You freaking rock!

--209.12.174.210 (talk) 22:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)KylersMamma

Innacuracy

I noticed that even after the whole citation thing was argued, there are still barely any citations. One passage in particular strikes my attention: "bullies got the living crap beat out of them with a chain."

                          -Anonymous  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.84.61.93 (talk) 23:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC) 

In his latest song "Inside The Fire" it deals with the suicide of one of his ex girlfriends so how exactly could he be gay? People that like to make stuff up about people shouldnt have access to the internet, Get a life! or even better give yourself something to do like get your fat ass up and get a job and maybe then you wont have so much time on your hands —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.25.15.90 (talk) 04:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

this guy is such an idiot, why do you guys know anything about him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.242.195 (talk) 08:32, 13 November 2008 (UTC) That's helpful. Maybe you don't like his singing or his songs, but watch an interview. He's actually quite well-spoken Disturbed286 (talk) 09:05, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

Hey, this guy is the best singer ever. Firio (talk) 22:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

Pantera & Alice In Chains

How exactly are Alice in Chains and Pantera "related acts"? Connorflanagan (talk) 01:16, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

thats what i am wondering... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.163.16.166 (talk) 00:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I was just wondering about that too. I know that Alice in Chains had several other accomplished singers fill in for the late Layne Staley in 2005 and 2006 before they finally settled on William Duvall. But this is the first I've heard about David Draiman being associated with them. Shaneymike (talk) 19:20, 6 March 2009 (UTC)