Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Evolutionary biology

Population genetics organization

just wanted to say hi to you guys/gals. i am marcos antezana, a professional empirical and theoretical evolutionary biologist/geneticist who furthermore really cares about the verbal structure of evolutionary and biological discourse. (i already gave a severe polishing to the muller's ratchet and to the beginning of the natural selection entries). english is my fifth language though, so beware. i would like to help this project in bringing the best of evolutionary thinking and knowledge to the world for free and in the clearest english possible. i have also asked several colleagues to join this effort and to improve articles in their fields of expertise. but please do not be intimidated and keep working on improving things and let's all keep an eye an each other (but with an open mind) since nobody is perfect. -- best to you all -- marcos

Hi Duncan, thanks for your recent work on various population genetics topics. I've been meaning to give attention to them myself. I think the footer is good idea, but it's difficult to figure out exactly how to format it. I was thinking that we should develop a companion List of evolutionary biology topics to complement List of biochemistry topics and List of biology topics from which we could assemble a coherent list. This list would include topics from population genetics, molecular evolution, phylogenetics/systematics and evolutionary developmental biology. It might eventually useful to have a footer box for each sub-field of evolutionary biology, but a start with population genetics is probably good, since it's probably (given it's mathematical orientation) the most easily structured subfield of evolutionary biology. What say you? Cheers --Lexor|Talk 20:21, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

the problem with population genetics is that it gets quite complicated and heavily statisticised (is that a word?). I haven't got time right now but I would suggest that having two levels would be a good idea. The problem is we're missing several important topics, and probably need a project to identify them. I've listed some population genetics under wikiproject maths.

Would popgens be a suitable project under both maths and biology. I'll have a look, my girlfriend's just about to drag me away from the 'puter :) Duncharris 15:13, May 4, 2004 (UTC)

Right, had a look. I think we should start a new project at Wikipedia:Wikiproject:Evolution on the same level as the tree of life. Duncharris 15:23, May 4, 2004 (UTC)

Good idea, I renamed the WikiProject Evolutionary biology to match the discipline name. --Lexor|Talk 16:18, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

I think we should start the List of evolutionary biology topics as soon as we can, to start getting a handle on the scope of the topics. We can start bottom-up, with all the see also's in molecular evolution, population genetics etc, and top-down with some topics in List of biology topics. Obviously we won't be including all of these in the footer, but it's useful to have the list and it will help us with the scope of the WikiProject. --Lexor|Talk 16:33, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

While I'm a fan of the MediaWiki msg's, before we go message mad, I suggest we create the list that I suggest above, to get an idea of the scope and classification of the topics, since we are not going to be able to create a footer that includes all of the topics in evolutionary biology (it would be too large). --Lexor|Talk 17:29, 4 May 2004 (UTC)

Moved from article

What about speciation? Where would that fit in these boxes? Wilke 05:05, 8 May 2004 (UTC)

How about like the current version at Template:Evolution. --Lexor|Talk 10:12, 8 May 2004 (UTC)

Zoology series of articles

I updated the footer to note a need to work on zoology, History of zoology (before Darwin)], History of zoology (since Darwin) articles. Some of the content of these 1911 Britannica articles articles could be saved, but much could simply be dumped. Perhaps this content could be merged in as part of a new history section in the evolutionary biology article, or the history section could link to the history of zoology articles with a Main article: link? Ideas? --Lexor|Talk 07:11, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

The problem with zoology per se is that after WWII ish it gets replaced by a greater ecosystem approach, i.e. ecology. I'll have a look. Duncharris 10:56, May 19, 2004 (UTC)

The second is of historical interest only really as its right in the middle of the Mendelian v Biometrician feud. "What the Lamarckians have in their favour", quite amusing but misleading if you don't know. Move to Wikisource and rewrite? Duncharris 11:02, May 19, 2004 (UTC)

Yep, agree, pick the eyes of out the two articles (perhaps the early information on zoology from the first article and some of the historical mendelian/biometrician debate stuff) and merge that information into a ==History== section in the main zoology article and move the original to wikisource. --Lexor|Talk 11:25, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

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IMO the box at the top-right of the zoology series is really horrible and should be reformatted! I was looking at the history of zoology articles and the box of the top looks like it's mal-formatted rather than deliberately bad though. --Joe D 22:07, 11 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Categorisation

We need to sort out a categorisation hierachy to implement the new changes instead of the blue boxes. Any ideas? Dunc_Harris|☺ 19:19, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Could you point me to some documentation that describes what exactly has changed? I noticed that the site has had a major overhaul, but I am not sure what exactly we are supposed to be doing now. Wilke 20:56, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Seeking help on Plant improvement

Plant improvement looks to me like an excellent article poorly translated from Italian. A few of us have done our best to clean up at least the opening part of it, but it's looking more and more like a job for someone with a strong background in biology. Is someone from this project willing to take it on? -- Jmabel 04:00, Aug 9, 2004 (UTC)

Template for Deletion?

The Darwin template is currently listed as a Template for deletion (see Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion#Template:Darwin). Personally, I am undecided about this template. Perhaps there should be two separate ones—a Darwin geneology template and a separate Darwin template without the genealogy. Still, it bugs me that there wasn't any notification of the proposed deletion on the Charles Darwin talk page or Evolutionary biology WikiProject. I think that there should be some policy that when a template is listed for deletion that the talk page for the article(s) most affected by the deletion should receive a notification. BlankVerse 08:49, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Biology portal

I encourage you all to help with maintaining the biology Wikiportal connected with this project! Ausir 23:03, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

How can I join in?

Cool! Can I simply become a participant by adding myself to the list? I would like to add the article on Transitional fossils... Fedor 11:57, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Wikiproject game theory announcement

Hello all - I have recently started a WikiProject Game theory. Since there is some use of game theory in evolutionary biology I thought some folks here might be interested in joining. We are just getting started, but please feel free to come by and join in! --best, kevin ···Kzollman | Talk··· 02:17, August 30, 2005 (UTC)

Science pearls

Hello, Please notice this project. I hope that the List of publications in biology will be adopted by the evulotionary biology project. Thanks,APH 06:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)