Talk:Germany women's national football team

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I have just completed a copy-edit of this article. My main changes were to tenses in some sections where in English the present perfect tense is more appropriate. One comment - the article uses a couple of different styles for tables, some with grid lines visible and shaded backgrounds, whereas the "current squad" table uses no grid lines and no shading in the main part of the table. Perhaps the tables should all use the same format for internal consistency. – ukexpat (talk) 20:37, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks again for the copy-editing this article. Regarding the tables, I'm not sure if the squad table should really be changed, because the currently used template seems to be the default style for football squads. EnemyOfTheState (talk) 19:08, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

FAC

I have removed the {{fac}} template that was added here today, as the nomination was incomplete. If the intent is to submit the article as a FAC candidate, please re-add {{fac}}, follow the links in the template to initiate the nomination, and add it at WP:FAC. Thank you. Maralia (talk) 17:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

Why the title change?

Why did the title get changed from "Germany" to "German"? EVERY OTHER national team article in the sport is at "(Country name) women's national football team", not "(Adjective) women's national football team"! Although the USA and Canada articles use "soccer" and the Australia article uses "football (soccer)", you'll find them under "United States", "Canada", and "Australia", not "American", "Canadian", and "Australian". In fact, it doesn't even match the MEN'S team, for crying out loud... see Germany national football team. — Dale Arnett (talk) 20:44, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

The article was moved during its FAC because the old title was considered by some as awkward English and as an incorrect translation of the topic's actual German name. The men's article was also moved briefly, but has been moved back by members of the WikiProject Football apparently. EnemyOfTheState_|talk 09:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

The team play under "Germany" right? Not "German". (In the German-language of course) I think the article needs to be moved back. —Borgarde 13:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

I'm not sure what that has to do with the name of this article. Apparently, the men's article also recognizes that "Germany national team" is bad English, since despite it's page name, the bolded title says "German national football team". EnemyOfTheState_|talk 11:58, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

The title should obviously be returned to that of the MOS, that would be Germany not German, this is to make the naming conventions much easier. Instead of having articles like "Korean Republic national football team", "Republic of Irish national football team" or "United States of American national football team". And I dont see why this article should break the common naming style, the New Zealand national rugby union team for example was moved away from All Blacks to fit the MOS for national teams, so why should this article be alllowed to? It clearly goes against WP:FOOTY chandler ··· 14:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm aware of the naming convention of the WikiProject Football, however, that is a violation of official Wikipedia policy, specifically WP:NAME. The page should be given its most common name, which is German national team (maybe Germany's national team), but certainly not Germany national team. I also don't understand the big problem; redirects will point every link to the right place anyway. EnemyOfTheState_|talk 14:43, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The problem is if one article "wants to be special" it opens the flood gates. And a move like this should've been taken up at WP:FOOTY when it was done, and the reasons for the name conventions would probably be, this team is not representing the German people or the German language, but the country Germany, there are many "ethnic Germans" or what one would call them, not eligible for the team, now they might support the team, but it is still only representing Germany in that sense. Now if you feel the naming of all articles are fine, sure. "Country's national [sport] team" might be a better choice (I know that's the sv.wiki name convention), but that should be taken up wiki-wide not just having inconsistently named articles. chandler ··· 17:49, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

It might have been a good idea to bring this discussion to the WikiProject Football. However, when the page title was brought up during the featured article process, there was no time for debates about a potential overhaul of the national football team naming convention. Also, I'm not involved in that wiki project and I have no interest to challenge the current standard and get caught up in endless discussions about such a rather trivial matter. I just wanted to bring this article to featured status. I'm certain official Wikipedia policy, such as Wikipedia:Naming conventions, outranks any agreements made on a wiki project. I don't see this as a big problem worth arguing about. The redirect will point everyone to the right place. Plus, this page is certainly not the only article to deviate from the naming convention. The articles for the United States and Canada break the convention even twice by having "men's" and "soccer" in their title. EnemyOfTheState_|talk 16:32, 12 April 2009 (UTC)