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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Chumba27 (talk | contribs) at 21:53, 15 April 2009 (Ridiculous speedy deletion: new section). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

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Fledgling Jason Steed

You just deleted this page - despite more votes to keep than delete, and obvious on-going attempts to verify facts. I believe that was a mistake.-- Myosotis Scorpioides 01:02, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please read this article: WP:NOTVOTE. AfD decisions are not based on majority rule. Rather, they are based on consensus and well-reasoned debate. -- King of 01:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, your arguement doesn't stand up. There was no consensusin the debate and you took a personal decision to delete. The decision was taken too early - and didn't allow time for newspaper/magazine staff to get back after the Easter break for further research.-- Myosotis Scorpioides 01:11, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I do not have a personal opinion on the subject. I'm more involved with closing AfD debates than participating in discussions. When I close a debate, I do an objective analysis of the arguments presented — based on policy, not mere counts. -- King of 01:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well, if you read the arguements, you could see that even one of the detractors was trying to find extra info. I don't feel that it would have been an unreasonable move to leave this open until after the Easter holiday. Tomorrow is yet another Bank Holiday, so nothing can be done until Tuesday at the earliest. Objectivity does't come into it - it is more a matter of common sense.-- Myosotis Scorpioides 01:29, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to have the deletion reevaluated, you can list it on WP:DELREV. Follow the instructions on the page. -- King of 01:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

England/Argentina matches

I note that you closed a recent AfD with a merge decision. I'm surprised (although impute no blame for it to you) that there is no standard reference made to the intended destination of the merge that this is proposed before it is made as a decision, so that editors with that destination on their watchlist can comment. In this instance, I would argue that the destination already includes a serviceable list of results of matches between the teams, and that the additional info to merge (goalscorers, attendance, referees) would be disproportionate, and irrelevant to the particular subject (i.e. the rivalry between the nations as expressed in a football context).

So do we:- A) Consider sufficient relevant info is already merged, and delete directly; B) Honour the merge decision and replace the existing results section with the fuller details from the AfDed article; or C) Have to take it to deletion review to argue that there is nothing additional to merge? Kevin McE (talk) 10:31, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I agree there is not a lot to merge. But the {{footballbox}}es give information like who scored what goal, that could be merged. -- King of 23:45, 13 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
But that's my point: why are referee, goal scorers and attendance an asset to an article that is about the rivalry (not the history of fixtures) between the sides? Kevin McE (talk) 23:08, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia's goal is to be as comprehensive as possible. If there is information that would aid understanding of the topic, then it belongs. -- King of 23:33, 14 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

why was 'the lost generation' page deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.136.80.160 (talk) 09:08, 15 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ridiculous speedy deletion

Desmond Meeks was one of Paula Abdul's favorite contestants on season 4. He was on the show but did not make it into the Top 12 -- however he was on the show. Matthew Falber, as a performer has gone on to work in Broadway productions. These people are noteable and well known to Idol fans. I don't see why you deleted them.