Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Shaheen Jafargholi

Shaheen Jafargholi

Notability concerns. Unlike Susan Boyle last week, Jafargholi has not made worldwide headlines, so this I really don't think satisfies notability guidelines, BLP1E could be applied as well. D.M.N. (talk) 13:31, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Whilst both Susan Boyle and Shaheen Jafargholi do fall under WP:BLP1E, the worldwide attention Boyle has received resulted in an exception being made to the BLP1E guideline for her. Jafargholi hasn't received such attention, and I therefore do not believe this article should be granted an exception as well. I hold no prejudice against starting up another article on him if coverage increases in the future to warrant that. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 13:55, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Non-notable. WP:BLP1E, and the 1E isn't even very remarkable (he sang well on a reality TV show). - Brian Kendig (talk) 17:27, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Merge. Worth an honourable mention in Britain's Got Talent (series 3) as there are enough good references to justify its inclusion. Definitely not worth having his own article though. 78.133.77.127 (talk) 18:46, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. -- — LinguistAtLarge • Talk 15:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A one event personality if I can put it that way. Agree with JEdgarFreeman that I hold no prejudice against starting up another article on him if coverage increases in the future to warrant that.--Paste _{Let’s have a chat.} 19:58, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, comparable to Boyle in my view. —Nightstallion 21:24, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- In what way, may I ask? Boyle has received extraordinary attention around the world to the extent that the article on her received an exemption from the WP:BLP1E guideline. Jafargholi's performance, and this isn't meant as a slur, has met a reaction typical of people who sing well on the type of show he performed in; great support from the long-term audience of the show, and some national attention, but nothing like the gathering around the planet that Boyle has garnered. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 23:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Ditto Paste 's comments. SunCreator (talk) 02:23, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep, Why not check how many people visit the wiki article and base the decision on that. I wanted to find out more about this person hence visited wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.247.126 (talk) 04:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- That's just as bad - if not worse - than bean counting AfD votes. People's interest does not automatically imply notability. S@lo (talk) 06:46, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Hasn't achieved enough notability. Susan Boyle was only famous for one event as well, but as others have mentioned, the immense impact that she's had worldwide (based on the thousands of news articles that have been written about her) makes her an exception to the rule. S@lo (talk) 06:40, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep: We have added 5 independent references to prove notability of Shaheen Jafargholi as requested. CNN also talked about the boy for many times posing him as the main rival to Susan Boyle. He is notable as some also questioned the whole issue of amateur vs professional participants, as it was revealed later that Shaheen did have professional work earlier. WE added a note aboyt that on his profile as well werldwayd (talk) 15:42, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Boyle is a rare exception to 1E because of how famous that one event made her. Jafargholi, not so much (what about the bloke who did "Somewhere" on the sax?) Sceptre ^(talk) 17:38, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete all the few sources were all published within the same few days and are all about the same event, making it a WP:BLP1E.--Otterathome (talk) 20:48, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Provisional Keep I'm willing to hear arguments either way, but while he no doubt got an entry because of his performance on "Britain Has Talent" I don't see how his entry can be deleted under WP:BLP1E. He has performed professionally both as a singer and as an actor and has an entry in IMDB. Some might consider this insufficient, but again it certainly isn't a single event. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abcarter (talk • contribs) 22:55, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep This page gives info to know more about this boy, which is not found anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.167.128.251 (talk) 22:59, 21 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- This is not a valid reason to keep; many articles have been deleted even though they were probably been the best sources of info for the subject on the Net. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 10:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete as some of the reasons above have given, Susan Boyle is a unique case. The worldwide attention of her has not been matched by another Britain's Got Talent entrant. I fear if we accept this article too then a precedent will be created for ALL notable reality competitors at the audition stages, regardless of what they go on to do. Dundedia (talk) 00:05, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. If wikipedia can have articles on consumer food products, this article (well sourced), is just as worthy of inclusion. HOWEVER, it could benefit from some decent cleanup to meet "our" standards. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 06:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- DeleteWP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS; just because other articles of what you consider to be similar claims to notability exist, doesn't mean this one should. Jafargholi is a one-event person, atm. So is Boyle, but the attention she has garnered is extraordinary and warranted an exception to WP:BLP1E. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 10:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - No, my point was that there is a strange dichotomy in what some consider notable and others do not, and this sense of WP:IDONTLIKEIT needs be considered. Point here is that this fellow is not WP:ONEEVENT, as he was receiving acknowledgement for his stage work long before Got Talent diff. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 18:58, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per the discussed reason. Susan Boyle just about qualifies, but is the exception to the rule. 81.153.219.75 (talk) 12:08, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Susan Boyle is a phenomenal Internet success, Shaheen Jafargholi is not. Delete for being non-notable. Tovojolo (talk) 12:09, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep what is the point of having a page taken down when it will be remade in a few weeks anyway? Keep for a a pathetic nomination. He isn't American, is that the problem? Andrew RACK 15:45, 22 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koshoes (talk • contribs)

We can't assume he will be more than a one-event personality, as per WP:CRYSTAL. Plus, nationality isn't anything to do with my delete !vote. I'm English, actually. Plus, your description of this nomination as "pathetic" is extremely uncivil. JEdgarFreeman (talk) 15:59, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, seems to have been known before this and been mentioned by the media for acting in numerous television shows and switching on Christmas lights? Surely enough to beat WP:EVENT? And hardly comparable therefore to Susan Boyle who is more recent? Or has all that just been added? I'm somewhat alarmed at the idea put forth by Tovojolo that someone can be deleted for not being "a phenomenal Internet success". --can dle •wicke 18:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Merge. I agree with the user who suggested this be merged with the article Britain's Got Talent (series 3) and a separate article be written about him if he becomes more notable in the future. FurryPurryLove (talk) 19:24, 22 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]