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< Talk:2009 swine flu outbreak

See also: Template talk:2009 swine flu outbreak table, Talk:2009 swine flu outbreak by country, and Talk:2009 swine flu outbreak timeline
(current version)
  Confirmed cases followed by death
  Confirmed cases
  Unconfirmed or suspected cases
See also: Live map of swineflu, H1N1 live map

Question

Why is Canada marked in red? There are no confirmed deaths.

Answer

Because red means confirmed cases. Confirmed deaths are marked black.

*Update*

Canada now has their first confirmed death in Alberta.

source: [1] —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carlokoz (talk • contribs) 20:58, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Well I read up on my history on the CNN it killed 50 million people during 1918-1919. The population has more then tripled, The best cure for it currectly is Tamiflu and Relenza. Their is currently no vacine for this illeness.

(the ruler)

Question

I don't have the authority of this image anymore beacause i am a new user (26 April), ironically because i am the author. Wikipedia asked me to remove Alaska from the picture but someone else added it again.

please remove alaska and other region like island around spain etc.

Answer

Question

Maybe we should take a map that has the different states/provinces of the US, Canada an Mexico? Kloth (talk) 17:24, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answer

No we better not do that because this is an global outbreak, but i've also made a map about the USA. check my user page for that map or the article about the outbreak in the USA cause i've added the map there allstrak

Clause

If you're going to include Alaska, then you must include French Guyana. The two are functionally identical within their countries. --Golbez (talk) 18:40, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Adding

And remove the north of Ireland as well.. Applytheneed1 (talk) 20:49, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Is it possible to generate a larger, more detailed map? –Juliancolton | Talk 21:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Answer

Yes, but there is no need to because it must be a thumb in the main N1H1 outbreak article. allstrak
Well, true, but it would be more useful at full resolution. –Juliancolton | Talk 23:47, 26 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

Can somebody who is very good with inkscape or so, add all the states of america in the map in stead of this one big blob? That will make much more clear.

answer

Request correction

Australia should be removed for now, suspected cases have tested negative. [2] Wine Guy Talk 00:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brazil needs to be removed as well. [3] Wine Guy Talk 02:32, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Australia removed. –Juliancolton | Talk 03:02, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Australia is in there again and Brazil has not been removed. 189.121.179.143 (talk) 16:31, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Venezuela shuold be added with 3 suspect cases in the city of Valencia. The source is this: http://www.globovision.com/news.php?nid=115662 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.26.166.136 (talk) 17:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

New suspect cases in Caracas, Venezuela: Source: Caracas: http://www.eluniversal.com/2009/04/28/ten_art_sospechan-de-gripe-p_1365990.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.26.166.136 (talk) 19:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Without exclaves

File:H1N1 map noexclave2.svg

Some people were asking that Alaska, etc. be removed. I made a version like that, but I don't have the Commons privileges to overwrite. --π! 02:24, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

-- I think thats just silly. Alaska is part of the US. I don't see any logical reason why not to include Alaska. -- Alexdeangelis86

If you're going to include Alaska, then include French Guyana, Guadeloupe, Martinique, and Reunion. They're part of France. --Golbez (talk) 18:27, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

European countries

Please update soon. -- Grochim (talk) 13:28, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

UK still not red

Since there are 2 confirmed cases, the UK should be red (or at least Scotland)--Simonr9999 (talk) 18:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It doesn't really make sense for Northern Ireland to be red, since it's a separate land mass from Scotland where the two confirmed cases are. IMHO, only Scotland should be red. Adw2000 (talk) 12:49, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Italy

There is a suspected case of Swine Flu in Venice Italy by the interactive map, could someone add it? 68.40.189.45 (talk) 00:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

South Korea

First suspect case in South Korea Here Veronica (talk) 00:42, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Chile

The Sub-Secretary of Health in Chile has confirmed that there are 8 suspect of being carriers of the swine influenza. Please, add to the map. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by CWesker (talk • contribs) 01:14, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here's the information http://www.emol.com/noticias/nacional/detalle/detallenoticias.asp?idnoticia=355563 CWesker (talk) 02:45, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The source of emol.com translated by google to english,http://74.125.91.132/translate_c?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&sl=es&tl=en&u=http://www.emol.com/noticias/nacional/detalle/detallenoticias.asp%3Fidnoticia%3D355563&usg=ALkJrhglJaIeSr79lUmMO0-NB6kkxlWL6w and more sorce http://tele13.beta.canal13.cl/noticias/nacional/2612.htm

--Satanux (talk) 03:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sweden

Also Sweden has suspected cases... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.250.130 (talk) 08:56, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Poland

Three cases investigated in Poland. Please mark in yellow.--Danziger100 (talk) 17:19, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

None confirmed positive I think. 83.175.176.122 (talk) 12:03, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peru rejects swine flu in five cases after analysis

In this moment there are not suspects of swine flu in Peru, and the suspect peruvian woman came from Cancun, Mexico was not swine flu. Update the map.

Read Reuters' article of today: [4] --EdwinJs (talk) 17:28, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Additional comment: I added this info to the page, and map needs fixed.

The following countries need to be updated

Yellow:

Red:

Black

  • United States[11] (possible but unconfirmed, keep an eye on it)

This link has English translations for all of those sources. I'd do it myself but I have no idea how to edit SVG files. Sbw01f (talk) 18:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Iceland: the two suspected cases turned out to be false alarms, so the country does not need to be yellow. --Cessator (talk) 21:10, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Change Mexico Back to Black

The color of the red is too close to the others and all the other maps have black as the death symbol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgekid87 (talk • contribs) 18:59, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I second this, it is going to get very confusing especially if it comes to turning some of Europe red, and some dark red. We need vivid colours, not the pastels on use here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rob.derosa (talk • contribs) 19:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Again change mexico back to black, it makes it more confusing. Knowledgekid87 22:48, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Russia

Someone took Russia off, could someone restore it as red since the patient has been confirmed as sick with H1N1 flu. 68.40.189.45 (talk) 23:13, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Is this page being monitored actively?

If so I'd like to add an edit notice at Talk:2009 swine flu outbreak to post here for map corrections. We're getting a lot on the talk page there and I'm not if sure editors there are interested in editing this image. Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I dont think so it looks like some edit chaos is at work here Knowledgekid87 22:47, 28 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

United States

There's been one death in USA. Please change its color.

File:H1N1 USA Map.svg also needs to be updated. 76.66.202.139 (talk) 12:18, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Austria

Austria has one confirmed case... Can someone fill it in red —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.250.130 (talk) 12:13, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

colours

suggest:

  • Blue - disproven cases
  • Yellow - suspected cases
  • Orange - confirmed cases
  • Pink - suspected cases + suspected deaths
  • Dark Red - confirmed cases + suspected deaths
  • Violet - deaths with confirmed infection

76.66.202.139 (talk) 12:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

    • Seems like too many colors. I remarked on this below. I think that we should keep the three color scheme but change the black to something else. What about a blue, green, violet scheme? This is much less threatening. Hdstubbs (talk) 14:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

2 Suspected cases in South Africa

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=13&art_id=nw20090429144821696C561369 Dccdz (talk) 14:09, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

continental maps?

There's a North American map available: image:H1N1 North America Map.svg

Are there maps for the other continents/regions?

76.66.202.139 (talk) 14:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There's one for Australia, Europe and South America:
image:H1N1 South America Map.svg
image:H1N1 Europe Map.svg
image:H1N1 Australia Map.svg
76.66.202.139 (talk) 05:01, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Choose different color scheme?

What about choosing a different color scheme? The red and black seems a little extreme. I agree that Wikipedia is not an emergency system or a health care provider (people shouldn't be getting their news entirely from here), but I feel that slowly making the world black as deaths accumulate is not socially responsible and adds to the overall feeling of panic. Now 2/3 of North America is a dire black and Canada is a deep red. Could we change the black to blue? Purple? Green? Hdstubbs (talk) 14:37, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I like the current color sheme.. it looks like the German flag jaja ;-) -- Grochim (talk) 14:59, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Black makes me think that everyone in that country has died - maybe I've been playing Pandemic II too much. It certainly isn't the best colour scheme. Smurfy 15:08, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Good, I'm glad someone else plays Pandemic II (I've been feeling guilty about it.) Do we agree that we should change the color scheme? I don't know how to do this or I would do it. Hdstubbs (talk) 17:39, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I also agree. Black seems to be too threatening. Alhen ♐... 18:05, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I say leave it be, more threatening? Give me a break, also is the fact that about 5 other maps would have to be changed as well if anyone did change the black.Knowledgekid87 18:58, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I understand that five maps have to be changed, but if we make the change then it is done. As more countries add deaths I still think that black is the wrong color for this map. I'm not convinced by 'give me a break' as a reason to not change it :). Hdstubbs (talk) 03:21, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I like my seven colour scheme suggestion (grey - no reports ; blue - false reports ; yellow - suspected cases ; orange - confirmed cases ; pink - suspected cases + suspected deaths ; dark red - confirmed cases + suspected deaths ; violet - deaths with victims confirmed to be infected) 76.66.202.139 (talk) 03:56, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Looks like someone is using "blue" to represent the source area of the outbreak... File:H1N1 Norte América Veracruz.svg 76.66.202.139 (talk) 05:55, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

These colors are an insult to Germany. Kjidel (talk) 11:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As a German I don't think it's an insult. -- Grochim (talk) 15:12, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
We should keep the current colors. There are sixteen maps total, one of which is in twenty eight languages. When I add it up, we have forty-four things to change and half of us don't even know how to change them. If we wanted them changed, the time to do so was last week when there wasn't so much work already done. 96.18.217.236 (talk) 12:15, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Just because it is a lot of work is not a good reason to have a less effective article. If we change the colors I can look up the colors in Babelfish. This article is getting a lot of traffic and we have many people working on it. I think we can spare some time to have one of the key pieces of the article, the map, as useful to people visiting the page as possible. Hdstubbs (talk) 12:35, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Lets leave this discussion with this note, most people who edit do not know how to change the maps. If someone wants to spend the long time and effort going and changing ALL the maps, they can do so provided a new color scheme is thought up first and agreed on.Knowledgekid87 14:45, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Just wanted to add my 2 cents with thinking that the black for confirmed deaths is a bit unorthodox with regards to the color scheme. Painting the entire US black because of one death due to H1N1 looks strange. Do these things get voted on if there are enough people who request a change? Just asking...

GaussianCopula (talk) 20:40, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

South Korea

One confirmed case in South Korea. Should be red. http://www.koreaherald.co.kr/NEWKHSITE/data/html_dir/2009/04/30/200904300051.aspHdstubbs (talk) 17:24, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

South Korea should be red on the map... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.250.130 (talk) 20:40, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please, stop changing colours

Each time someone change the colours, the legend must be changed in 28 languages. 83.49.224.108 (talk) 17:44, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I don't want to make more work for anyone but I really think that changing from black is for the best. It looks better and, more importantly, it doesn't look like we are slowly destroying all life on Earth. Can we come to a consensus on this and then stick with it? It doesn't have to be deep red? What about red for death (serious but no as threatening, green for confirmed and yellow for suspected? Hdstubbs (talk) 18:22, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support Hdstubbs's suggestion, for what it's worth. YeshuaDavid (talk) 22:05, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support this suggestion as well. I never liked black for the deaths. I preferred the very dark red that was used at one point, but I recognize that it would be difficult to distinguish against the bright red if they have to be used together in Europe. I'd agree to Hdstubbs's particular color scheme, although I'm not married to it; I just want to get rid of the black. --DavidK93 (talk) 13:00, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bolivia

Add Bolivia. 83.49.224.108 (talk) 20:33, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Bolivia added. Tomasz W. Kozłowski (talk) 21:04, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dominican Republic

You may remove Dominican Republic. The patient that was suspected of having the disease was tested twice and both results came negative. She is not suspected of having swine flu anymore, just a regular flu, although she is still under medical surveillance. Link to article here: [12]. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.88.48.122 (talk) 20:56, 29 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

0 suspected in Croatia

Croatia (hr) in Europe doesn't have suspected cases any more (please look here). Thanks. E.coli (talk) 00:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peru

Peru has confirmed their firs case of Swine Influenza. [13]
CWesker (talk) 01:44, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply] 

       Not More [14] --Fr3shjp (talk) 02:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Romania

The Romanian suspect was a false alarm. The site that published the story first dismissed it. Can anybody remove Romania from the map? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skortzy (talk • contribs) 12:57, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Colors of countries

Using the black color for countries in which deaths were detected is a bit "darkening" and overly alarming to my taste. Soon the whole world will be "blacked out", leaving white borders in between.

If it was the Spanish flu, wouldn't you say it would be appropriate? 76.66.202.139 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 12:10, 30 April 2009 (UTC).[reply]
Maybe, but this isn't the Spanish Flu. This isn't something that happened in 1918. This is happening today. And the connotation of black is not warranted by one death in the United States and less than two hundred in Mexico. Even if this was the article for Spanish Flu I would recommend changing the colors. Black is too melodramatic and is not in the spirit of a balanced collaborative communication about a particular issue. Hdstubbs (talk) 12:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

1 case is confirmed in the Netherlands(fill it in red)

Can someone color the Netherlands with red... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.250.130 (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Why is Ireland Red?

Ireland has no confirmed cases of the virus and should be grey. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.141.179 (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC) ireland has gotten one case that was today and has been confirmed One case has been confirmed in Ireland too... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.24.250.130 (talk) 18:37, 30 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Right now Ireland has a probable case, not confirmed. tpower (talk) 07:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Current situation - Update needed

PERU

THE CASE OF PERU WAS A MISTAKE OF THE HEALTH MINISTRY. IT IS NOT A CASE OF SWINE INFLUENZA —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.254.95.137 (talk) 05:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Question

What are the grey bits? I know its sounds like a dumb question, but this is important, are they known to be unaffected?

No; but they are not known to be infected. --Golbez (talk) 08:19, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Taiwan & Hong Kong

Both should be added as suspected countries. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Block77129 (talk • contribs) 09:36, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update for confirmed case in Denmark

Hi im not an admin. Please update the file with confirmed case in Denmark. can be found here: http://www.eijkhof.com/upload/H1N1_map.svg

link updated --wmasterj (talk) 13:49, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
File was corrupt, please make changes. And add denmar...it is the area between germany and sweden. --wmasterj (talk) 13:51, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update was made from version:

15:32, 1 May 2009 940×477 (1.62 MB) Ngckmax

Which is the latest one / Changes made in Adobe Illustrator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wmasterj (talk • contribs) 13:47, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Poland to yellow please

In Poland stil 9 cases are under investigation as of May 1, according to National Institute of Public Health. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danziger100 (talk • contribs) 16:37, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

France : 2 confirmed cases

The French Health Minister has confirmed 2 A(H1N1) cases in Paris, could you color the country in red?90.40.52.40 (talk) 18:44, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update Perú, Costa Rica, Ireland, South Korea and Hong Kong

Perú said it's case was finally negative, Costa Rica, Ireland and South Korea have initial positives not fully confirmed yet, so they should be yellow, and Hong Kong has a confirmed laboratory case, so it should be red. Can someone fix this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DePalma (talk • contribs) 19:01, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

We put yellow for probation. Stop coloring South Korea, Ireland, and Costa Rica red until it is confirmed. You cannnot make assumption over something hasn't yet confirmed. Besides, color Russia to yellow. Kadrun (talk) 19:08, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't colour anything,I don't know how to do it. Actually I agree with you. No cases have been proven for South Korea, Costa Rica and Ireland. They just have initial positives that need final laboratory confirmation, so they should be yellow for the moment. And Peru had a previous initial positive that turned out to be negative, soy it shouldn't be red either. Please someone fix it so the map will be more accurate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by DePalma (talk • contribs) 19:20, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I was supporting your idea, not talking to you, don't worry. :) By the way, I understand the mistake over Ireland and Costa Rica since they were once red, but coloring South Korea was completely wrong. Kadrun (talk) 19:23, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now South Korea has confirmed the infection. You may color South Korea red. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kadrun (talk • contribs) 01:53, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Impression of accuracy

This map gives the impression of accurate worldwide information regarding the spread of swine flu. However, it is in fact a collection of media reports and detections by health agencies of varying responsiveness and capabilities. This means that there are probably serious biases in the map (for instance most of Africa has no confirmed cases which I find highly suspect). A casual reader is likely to miss these subtleties. I recommend modifying the key to include the caveat: "This map is not taken from epidemiological data and so may suffer from one or more measurement biases." Barnaby dawson (talk) 08:24, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Or perhaps this wording would be better: "This map is not based on epidemiological data and so may suffer from one or more measurement biases." Barnaby dawson (talk) 08:46, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Italy

Italy has confirm his first case (it's in portuguese) João P. M. Lima (talk) 11:28, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marked. Tomasz W. Kozłowski (talk) 16:32, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

China/Hong Kong

Shouldn't China be red on this map? Hong Kong has confirmed its first case, but since 1997 Hong Kong is considered part of China even though it has a different government. --Tocino 17:24, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

China has also a confirmed case. See [15]. -download | sign! 21:22, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Even though Hong Kong is technicially considered a part of China they have basically separate government and social networks. An outbreak in China is VERY different from an outbreak in Hong Kong. They have separate health care systems, government administrations, societies, and passports. This article is referring to the Hong Kong case not to an additional case in China. So only Hong Kong should be colored red not just China. --62.69.130.82 (talk) 10:03, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
As a Hong Kong people, now I urge the guy who colour whole China in red to decolourise China back right now, that "source" have no words mentioning China mainland have confirmed case, also if China mainland have cases reported the news here don't emit nothing. It is quite a misleading especially in the zh-wiki --Ryusakura (talk) 14:22, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please paint Hong Kong in red. Leaving it gray is misleading. ~AH1(TCU) 19:57, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

While I think colouring all China a bit overdramatic, we can't have two systems in play here; French Guiana is geographically and culturally, if not politically, seperate from France, for example, yet that's coloured red. YeshuaDavid (talk) 22:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's silly. The reasoning equals we just do. The point of this map is to track an epidemic, not to categorize political boundaries. There is no reason for French Guiana to be red if there is no cases of swine flu there. WP:Ignore all Rules--62.69.130.82 (talk) 12:33, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
French Guiana is a fundamental part of France. If we are going to include Alaska and Hawaii, even though there have been zero flu cases in either, then logic dictates we include French Guiana, Martinique, Reunion, and Guadeloupe. If the point of the map is to "track an epidemic" then begin by coding out Alaska and Hawaii. --Golbez (talk) 23:47, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It would be better if Alaska and Hawaii were not colored, but at least they are on the same continent. If the point is not to track and epidemic then what is the point? But the original comment was about Hong Kong and China and they are the not the same, it is not like Hong Kong is a state in China, it is a separate political entity.--Hdstubbs (talk) 16:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. Hong Kong is separate in many ways, while still being at least nominally a part of the country. --Golbez (talk) 20:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Could someone colour Hong Kong red, at least? Or if it's too small to be on the map, make a red circle at the approximate position. (It might also be a good idea to use a larger World map.)--Roentgenium111 (talk) 18:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Portugal

Portugal is yellow on the European map but nor here. Should it be? --Cessator (talk) 18:58, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Portugal has 1 confirmed case, so it should be red.

Poland again - please mark on yellow

One suspected case. --Danziger100 (talk) 13:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Five cases under investigation as of May 5. --Danziger100 (talk) 13:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Norway

Norway isn't mentioned in the template here and should therefore not be yellow. --Cessator (talk) 13:51, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestions for image

Hi. I suggest using a small coloured circle, but one big enough to show up on the size of the image used for the main article, for the countries/special regions that have no islands or areas not smaller than Jamaica, which have either confirmed (red) cases or suspected (orange) ones. This is because those countries are hard to identify on even the main-sized version, especially Singapore. The circle should be centered on the country, or on the capital city if it is an archipelago, in addition to colouring in any parts of the country/region visible on the map at all. I think the general consensus here is not to colour all of Mainland China in red, so a red small circle should suit the purpose. It may seem misleading, for example, to have French Guiana coloured in red, but I suggest leaving in gray only the dependencies of a country too small to show up on the map and therefore otherwise would require a small circle. Any opinions? Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 20:04, 4 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

French Guiana is not a dependency of France any more than Alaska is a dependency of the USA. --Golbez (talk) 16:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I like the idea of using a dot for very small regions, including Hong Kong as separate from China. I think that exclaved regions should be dealt with separately. For example, the coloration of French Guyana in red makes it appear that there is a confirmed case of swine flu in that part of South America, which is completely inaccurate. Thus, French Guyana should not be red. In the case of Alaska and Hawaii, coloring them black makes it seem as if deaths have occurred there, but they haven't. Basically, I think anyone reading the map will parse the color of each independent region individually, regardless of what the political connections are between them. And I really think that most people aren't even aware of most of those political connections; I sincerely doubt that a majority of the world population knows that a small region in South America is part of France. Thus, I think that each exclaved region should be colored to reflect cases in the exclave, not in the mother country. --DavidK93 (talk) 13:19, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I agree the point of the map is to track the epidemic not to cover who owns what politically. We should have them separate especially when there is a great physical and/or cultural divide between two nations such as France and French Guiana. I like circles a lot better. As long as we are making the circles can we change the colors?--Hdstubbs (talk) 16:45, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
France and French Guiana are the same nation. And I agree, I would much prefer to exclude exclaves; my only point was, if we are including Alaska, we must include French Guiana, Reunion, Martinique, and Guadeloupe as well. Better would be a map that only show states/provinces where the flu has been found; even better would be dots showing the exact locations, if known, without even shading in the country (that could be useful for a thumbnail though) --Golbez (talk) 16:23, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sweden

Sweden now has a confirmed case.--GoldenMew (talk) 16:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

China

According to NBC China has a confirmed case as well. Knowledgekid87 18:42, 6 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Brasil

Brasil has confirm his first case today, some minuts ago, I've just heard on television João P. M. Lima (talk) 22:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's all over the news here, but it won't be included until there is a reliable reference. "Reliable" means either the next report from the Ministério da Saúde or by the WHO. Pmbarros (talk) 22:41, 7 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There's a good reference now, Ocurrencies of human case infection by A (H1N1) - Note 8th May 2009, 13h (local time). Pmbarros (talk) 18:18, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Argentina

Argentina in red please. Source on the table. --190.49.117.5 (talk) 01:32, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Update

Canada needs the color changed to black the first death was reported in Alberta. [16] Cheers Kyle1278 18:31, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Costa Rica

Costa Rica now has a confirmed death. Update please. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.148.61 (talk) 19:43, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Norway

Norway has 2 confirmed cases, so Norway should be red. [17] Thanks Игорь277 (talk) 08:56, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

China

China has 1 suspected case now, so could someone update please? Thanks. [18][19] ChongLi (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It actually is confirmed now. [20] Dakbonsa (talk) 04:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Map consistency

on the map places like Alaska and the French overseas territories are added, yet overseas territories of other contries like Denmark, England and the Netherlands are not. Just saying.--77.166.165.137 (talk) 18:10, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Alaska and French Guiana are part of the United States and France, respectively; they are not mere 'overseas territories', they are integral parts of the country. The same cannot be said for Greenland, Gibraltar, or St. Maarten. --Golbez (talk) 19:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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