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This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Party diktator (talk | contribs) at 22:39, 21 May 2009 (Your Choice Records). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.


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Dermatits Herpetiformis

Could you send me the earlier version of the page on Dermatitis Herpetiformis before its copyright problems. It was key to my diagnosis a few years ago, and I would like to have a go at rewriting it. Occultations (talk) 20:03, 15 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'm afraid that this is what it looked like before the infringement was added. :/ Are you e-mailed enabled? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
When I read it during August 2006 it was several screenfuls long. It went on about gluten-free beer (I wouldn't want to replace that), but among other things it said "Dermatitis herpetiformis is usually extremely itchy. The vesicles or papules usually appear on the elbows, knees, back, and buttocks. In most cases, it is highly symmetric. Symptoms of dermatitis herpetiformis tend to be sporadic.", and that's what led me to my diagnosis, as I mentioned at [[1]]. There's a big gap in the history between Feb 2005 and August 2008, are any of those versions available? I don't want to put my address on a public web page, but you can see it near the bottom of [2]. Occultations (talk) 15:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Every version of the article after February 2005 infringed the copyright of health.allrefer.com (which, by the way, is probably the source of the text you cited above: see [3]). At the time it was pasted in, it even included formatting words from the subject website. I'm not really supposed to make copyright infringements available, but since the source material is online anyway, I'm willing to e-mail you the last version before I deleted so that you can see what can be salvaged. You will have to reword everything, though. Even if the material you use is not currently present in the suspected source site, it will need to be in original language because the copyright belongs to previous contributors. (The reason I say suspect source: the website predates the appearance of the text in our article, and it does bear a copyright notice ("Copyright 2003 A.D.A.M., Inc."). But there's always the possibility that the IP editor who pasted it here took it from another source with the same text. The only thing we can be sure of is that it wasn't authored here, but was previously published elsewhere, and we have no proof that it's free for use.)
When you enable your e-mail address on Wikipedia, it doesn't publish your address. It unlocks the "toolbox" on your userpage that says "E-mail this user." Even when people click on it, they don't see your e-mail address. They only learn that if you choose to reply. If you don't want to enable your own e-mail, how about e-mailing me at the "E-mail this user" link, and I'll reply? (I'm glad that you want to improve this article; I wasn't at all happy to find how far back the infringement went. :/) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I understand that I'll have to put everything into my own words (although there are only so many ways of saying certain things!). I've set up my user page and unlocked my email. Occultations (talk) 16:29, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Father

Ah, so either you trust random link pages of the internet as to real people? Got it. Jelousy, got it.

None the less, I leave it to you to decide. Have a good funfilled life on Wikipedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpdr (talkcontribs) 12:00, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Ad

Sorry about that. I have GCSEs coming up, and this completely slipped my mind. I'll do a quick job now, and if you want more work done to it I'll do it later. Sorry! :) — neuro(talk) 13:28, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I needed to get back to work, so this is a reasonably quick attempt.
Is that alright? — neuro(talk) 14:04, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is installed into the template, yes. :) — neuro(talk) 16:28, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]


tl;dr —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dpdr (talkcontribs) 14:14, 16 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

plagiarism query

Hi MRG, There's a query on my talk page I can't answer, and would be insterested in your opinion on it. Tony (talk) 04:05, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I'll be happy to see what opinion I might be able to offer. I'll be right over, but if it's complex, I might wait until my first morning caffeine takes effect before weighing in. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:27, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Wikipedia_talk:Featured_list_candidates#Copyright.2C_plagiarism_and_list-selection_criteria. Thanks heaps! Tony (talk) 14:47, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

FishBase info

Hi, there's a discussion going on at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Fishes#Fish_familiy_format about adopting new tables for the species listings. I've voiced my concerns about taking information in the "environment" column directly from the "environment"/"climate" entry at the corresponding FishBase species page (e.g. "marine, tropical, reef-associated" [4]), but I'm not actually sure whether this does constitute a license violation because they're not phrases, just single words. Since you seem to know about such things could you take a look and comment? Thanks. -- Yzx (talk) 19:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:01, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Second opinion

Hi, could you take a look at some of the created articles of User:Contributor777 for me? See [5] Since I already stalk his edits because he keeps adding flags against the MoS :), he also doesn't respond to me. Therefore I might not be the right person to handle this. But I just checked Romani people in Brazil against [6] which looks like a clear cut copyvio to me. I already deleted some articles as copyvio's but this might mean there are many more. Garion96 (talk) 19:31, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'd be happy to take a look at his or her contrib history. I'm working on a deadline for tomorrow (which is interfering badly with my wiki schedule!), but will take a look as soon as I can. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, no hurry of course. Garion96 (talk) 18:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for prompting me so nicely. :) I completely forgot! I've just finished the History of Jews in Poland review and will look into this today. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:42, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Really wasn't meant like that though. :) I just forgot to put your talk on my watchlist so only read your first response a few minutes ago. Garion96 (talk) 18:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! Well, it all worked out to the best, then. :D --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:45, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

SA's Optics article

Hiya, MoonG. You might want to comment at Talk:Optics#Request to port article from Wikisource about how to copy/port ScienceApologist's Optics article from Wikisource while respecting GFDL. Thanks. Coppertwig (talk) 20:56, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. :) There doesn't seem to be much for me to add. Transwiki is probably your best option. Not sure if you need a wikipedia or wikisource admin to help with it, but you would definitely need somebody who can transwiki. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 23:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Your Choice Records

Dear Moonriddengirl: thank you for your advice. I have passed the info and the changes have been made. (check out: http://www.ycr.diehl.ws/news.html#4) I hope everything is ok like that. Love, Party diktator (talk) 15:45, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It should be fine. I have cleared the article and noted the licensing terms at the talk. If you place that material in other articles, please provide attribution as I did at the bottom of the tagged article. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:11, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much!!! Love, Party diktator (talk) 19:36, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Moonriddengirl: this RadioFan guy (RadioFan, talk) is trying to fuck me up! Could you please help me out here? I am not able to handle this/him, as I am not to used to deal with all the Wiki rules and regulations, I just tried to set up something beautiful... It was a lot of work to me to edit all the info regarding Your Choice Records. A few pages have been uploaded back in 2005 (Your Choice Live Series Vol.10, Your Choice Live Series Vol.12, It's Your Choice - compilation). This inspired me to continue as I am a fan. Now this guy is trying to ruin it all... He seems to have a lot of energy doing this... I am in a desperate state... Would be so happy if you could help me out... Love, Party diktator (talk) 22:27, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

And talking about this so called "sockpuppetry" thing: User:Grapes-taste is actually a funny and very kind girl friend of mine. Is it illegal if she voices her opinion / reacts on my comments? If so, I will tell her to stop... Should be no problem... Love, Party diktator (talk) 22:39, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

List of New York State Historic Markers

Hello,

I've been developing List of New York State Historic Markers for the past few weeks. Some questions were raised about copyright status. I've managed to successfully reach out and talk with the State of New York. They are willing to do an OTRS release so these materials may be used in Wikipedia. I've copied a draft of what I propose for that release below. Please confirm this is acceptable as is or with revisions and I'll ask the person I am working with at New York State to send an email to the wikimedia permissions email address I used before.

I hereby assert that I am the creator and/or sole owner of the exclusive copyright of the text of the New York State Historical Markers and all transcripted sections at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_State_Historic_Markers I agree to publish that work under the free license GFDL v 1.2 or later and CC-BY-SA 3.0 or later. I acknowledge that I grant anyone the right to use the work in a commercial product and to modify it according to their needs, provided that they abide by the terms of the license and any other applicable laws. I am aware that I always retain copyright of my work, and retain the right to be attributed in accordance with the license chosen. Modifications others make to the work will not be attributed to me. I acknowledge that I cannot withdraw this agreement, and that the content may or may not be kept permanently on a Wikimedia project.

Inoysterbay (talk) 19:12, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Fabulous! Eliminate all questions. :) That should work, except that the employee of the State of New York may not feel comfortable declaring him or herself to be the sole owner. It should also be acceptable to say "I hereby assert that the State of New York [or whichever particular agency] is the creator and/or sole owner of the" and "As a designated agent of the State of New York authorized to do so, I agree to publish...." You should try to keep the doors of communication open in case further clarification is required and, of course, this agent will need to have an e-mail address that clearly identifies him or her with the State of New York or said particular agency. Again, thank you for being willing to work with the red tape. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 19:20, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Something interesting

Note: this is completely trivial, so don't even bother reading it if you're busy
...but I stumbled across this otherwise irrelevant news article, in which a paragraph struck me as quite relevant to what we've been seeing recently. Second and third paragraphs under Greater assertiveness. It's not just us, then. :) – Toon(talk) 17:40, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm totally up for something interesting. :) The eye-clawing boredom of evaluating text for copyright concerns is about to drive me batty today. :D I'll go check it out! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:42, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, absolutely! Just today I witnessed another case that I think was a legitimate misunderstanding of copyright violations. The contributor was sourcing the copied text, and seemed honestly confused that this was not sufficient from a copyright perspective. One problem we face, I think, is that these contributors (like the one I had recently who thought we could use non-commercial text), don't have any reason to read our policies because they don't have any reason to question their assumptions. *sigh* --Moonriddengirl (talk) 17:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Rankings of importance

Greetings, Moonriddengirl. You've struck me as an editor who has a broad base of knowledge, a calm demeanor, and lots of love for the Wiki. That's just the kind of person I'm looking for! Over at Wikipedia:Vital articles/Level/3, Drilnoth and I are attempting the nigh-unto-impossible task of deciding on the 1000 most-important articles on Wikipedia. We already have the vital 100 solidified, but it's an interesting task to choose among all Wikipedia articles to decide which are most vital. Is Rembrandt or Andy Warhol more vital? Tuba or Folk music? Would you be willing to offer your input on these and other burning questions? If so, the discussion is mostly ongoing at Wikipedia talk:Vital articles/Level/3. All the best, – Quadell (talk) 20:33, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sure, though I'm almost out of time for the moment. :) I'm working on the Federally Administered Tribal Areas, gutted by copyright infringement earlier. I'll wander by and take a look as soon as I can. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:35, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! Oh, and by the way, I thought you might enjoy today's "Get Fuzzy" comic. – Quadell (talk) 20:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
LOL! Classic! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

A CopyVio article (not from GB)

Hi Moonriddengirl. I just now was reading the article Nocturnal myoclonus and it appears to be pretty much an exact verbatim copy of this webpage [7]. What do we do? Do we nominate it for speedy deletion? Thanks and best wishes, Invertzoo (talk) 00:16, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I would just point out that at the bottom of that page is the nice, bold text which says: Compliments of Wikipedia.org. No copyvio here! (Hooray) :) – Toon(talk) 00:38, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm very glad to be able to agree with Toon05. :) Those of us who have addressed a lot of these on Wikipedia have learned to watch for the signs of Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks. Don't feel bad for missing this one; I'm just glad you thought to follow up. :) Some of them are really very subtle. There is a book publisher (Icon Publishing Group) that reproduces Wikipedia text quite frequently, and the only sign that most of us would see (unless we read the introduction) is the parenthetical (WP) at the end of the passage. And, of course, some of them don't give us credit at all. :/ In those cases, I'll have to search for context clues, like comparing the archive date on the earliest publication of the text or looking to see if the language naturally evolved here. It can be complicated. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:43, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh great, thanks, that's a relief. I will learn to look more carefully. Thanks again, Invertzoo (talk) 12:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Letting people know in a personal way

Hi again Moonriddengirl. Wanted to run this by you to see what you thought. As I go along I sometimes find fairly new contributors creating whole series of gastropod articles or other natural history articles. When the articles are extremely complete and technical-seeming right from the start, and there are quite some number of them, (all of which can give me an uneasy feeling) I have started saying something like this in my message to the person, after a hello and some praise:

"I also wanted to say one more thing, and please do forgive me if this is not relevant, but I don't have access to the (print) references you are using, so I can't check for myself. I just wanted to say that all prose, including the technical descriptions of the animals, has to be re-written in your own words from scratch, not used directly or almost directly from the sources. Sometimes this is quite hard to do, and a lot of us do make the mistake of copying stuff verbatim or almost verbatim when we are first starting out on Wikipedia, not understanding that that is unacceptable. So, as I said, please forgive me if you already know this, but I guess it doesn't hurt to make that policy really clear up front. All my very best wishes to you,"

Best to you too of course, Invertzoo (talk) 13:06, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I think that sounds like a friendly notice. I'd give it a go, and if you get negative feedback adjust accordingly. :) You might want to include a link to perhaps WP:C. And if you aren't already doing so, I sometimes close by noting the help desk in case they need assistance. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:54, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks M., I deliberately didn't include the WP:C link right off the bat, because I thought it might make the note seem sort of unpleasantly officious, but if I get a reply that seems a bit dubious, or if I don't get a reply but things continue as before, I will definitely give it that link out. I think the help desk link is a good idea too, thanks. Invertzoo (talk) 15:33, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Creating a table on my User page - recieved error on attempt to save.

Hi there! Can you help me or send me on to someone that can help? I was working to create a table of drugs candidates being developed by various pharmaceutical companies. I was at it for several hours, doing a "save page" essentially for every line. But on the last line I was entering I was thwarted by this message:

Database error From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Jump to: navigation, search A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug in the software. The last attempted database query was: (SQL query hidden) from within function "Revision::insertOn". MySQL returned error "1205: Lock wait timeout exceeded; Try restarting transaction (10.0.6.22)". Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Johnfravolda"

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnfravolda (talkcontribs) 21:21, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I desperately hope you still have that edit window open. :/ When that happens to me, I hit backs on my browser. The material is still all there in my edit screen. Sometimes I copy it and back it up. Sometimes I just back up and try again. I think we had a system wide glitch recently, as I also ran into problems saving. If you don't still have the window open, I may not be able to help you, but I'll see if I can find somebody who can (or can definitely answer that nobody can.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:23, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's no big deal. I only lost the last bit I was typing in, since I had been saving incessantly along the way. I was afraid I had surpassed a limit on the number of saves I can make. --Johnfravolda (talk) 21:50, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, I'm glad. :) No, I think it was just a standard Wikipedia glitch. Some days we're buggy; some days we're not. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 21:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

My name is Todd Budish and I use the name of Budeone as a logon. I am trying to add a page for my cousin Armond Budish. I must be doing something wrong. I tried a few weeks ago and it was deleted.

I went back and looked and I saw the problem, it was copied and pasted from other sites. So this time I printed all the information and had the receptionist take all the information and write it down mixing and matching different things from different articles.

I printed what I think is either a note from you or a standard response. I am not quite sure if I am actually typing to someone or not. I will give this information to girl I had type this last one out to and have her try it again.

Thanks Todd

Budeone (talk) 11:26, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your note. I have replied at your talk page with a little more information. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:38, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much.

I think I have a much better understanding of what you are asking for. I am not sure the young lady I had do this last night is going to be able to do this, I think I need to find someone computer literate to add these links. I have printed many pages of instructions and I think that will help quite a bit.

Honestly I did not think this was going to turn into a project..lol I do understand why it is necessary and will try to make the next one conform to the rules of this site.

Thanks Todd

Budeone (talk) 11:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Stacey Castor's expression as verdict is read.jpg

Since you helped me write parts of the Stacey Castor article, would you mind commenting here on how valid you feel this image is within the article? I am also asking you because I know how experienced you are with copyrighted material subjects, and you did not object to my use of the image within the article. Flyer22 (talk) 21:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]