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A Nobody's article contributions

Welcome to my talk page! Please be sure to make all posts civil and constructive, as I will ignore or revert anything I deem to be bad faith, dishonest, or vandalism. Also, let us try to keep two-way conversations readable. If you post to my talk page, I will just reply here. If I posted recently to another talk page, including your talk page, then that means I have it on my watchlist and will just read responses there. I may refactor discussions to your talk page for the same reason. Also, please do not refer to me here or elsewhere by my previous username as I changed names due to real-world off-wiki harassment that remains a concern. Due to the issues that caused my name change and other matters (such as the demands of college!) I may be slow in responding to messages and I may even stop editing for long stretches of time. Sincerely, --A Nobody 18:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

To add to this article

I am not sure what was on the previous version of the article, but the following out of universe information can be added from "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62: the character is voiced by David Kaye. PTOM states that "The Resistance 2 story is all about Nathan Hale and his role in this great conflict." Ted Price, one of the game developers, adds, "Internally we wanted to know more about Hale, and focusing on him provided the opportunity to answer questions about him." Thus, I encourage someone to restore the article and add this information in a manner such as this:

Nathan Hale is the protagonist of the Playstation 3 games Resistance: Fall of Man and its sequel Resistance 2. He is voiced by David Kaye.[1]

Development

Ted Price, one of the game developers, adds, "Internally we wanted to know more about Hale, and focusing on him provided the opportunity to answer questions about him."[2]

Biography

Hale killed practically every chimera in England and then went to America to win again.

Reception

PTOM states that "The Resistance 2 story is all about Nathan Hale and his role in this great conflict."[3] Playstation Universe lists Hale among the top five Playstation 3 characters thus far.[4]

References

  1. ^ "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
  2. ^ "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
  3. ^ "Resistance 2: Getting To Know Nathan Hale," PlayStation The Official Magazine 13 (November 2008): 62.
  4. ^ Dave Wales, "Top five PlayStation 3 characters thus far," Playstation Universe (March 16th, 2008): http://www.psu.com/Top-five-PlayStation-3-characters-thus-far--a0003095-p0.php

Restoration

Nathaniel is a character in Jonathan Stroud's Bartimaeus Trilogy. Nathaniel is one of the main characters of this series. After coming of age as a magician when he was 12 years old, he was granted the new name of John Mandrake, and is known by this name to everyone but the title character, Bartimaeus and in the later part of Ptolemy's Gate to Kitty.

Attributes

Appearance

In The Amulet of Samarkand he is described as being small and scrawny with dark hair. His hair, as he increases in rank, becomes increasingly long, but during the gap between The Golem's Eye and Ptolemy's Gate he has opted for a crew cut in (politically advantageous) tribute to the soldiers fighting in America. He is further described as attractive, with "the scent of power [hanging] around him" and of medium height and slender build, his forehead prematurely lined (Ptolemy's Gate, U.S. Edition, pg. 21).

Personality

Nathaniel is, at first, a small, shy boy uncomfortable with anyone who is not Mrs. Underwood or Ms. Lutyens. He is very nervous and scared by Bartimaeus when he first summons the demon. As the books progress, and he becomes more and more proficient, he also becomes more confident, and possibly overconfident. He works fervently when motivated, as is shown when he furthers his education with incredible speed in The Amulet of Samarkand. Throughout the books he also shows signs of ambition to rise through the ranks of the government, a common goal among magicians. Bartimaeus compares him more than once to Simon Lovelace, as they share a similar mindset, and habitual tics, such as stroking back their hair.

Role in books

The Amulet of Samarkand

In The Amulet of Samarkand, Nathaniel starts off as a young boy who, at the age of five, had been given up by his parents to apprenticeship under a mediocre Whitehall magician named Arthur Underwood, the assistant minister of Internal Affairs. Underwood begins teaching the boy in magic, but Nathaniel, being inquisitive, decides to advance his education to higher levels without the knowledge of his tutor.

However, at the age of eleven, in his master's house, Nathaniel is publicly humiliated by a greedy and ambitious young magician named Simon Lovelace. In a fit of juvenile fury, Nathaniel hatches a plan for vengeance. He sets several mites (a weak kind of imp) on Lovelace, but Lovelace is powerful and stops the mites, then proceeds to beat Nathaniel as punishment.

Later, after much research and preparation, Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus, a 5,000-year-old djinni, to exact his revenge on Lovelace. Mrs. Underwood - Nathaniel's master's wife - inadvertently reveals Nathaniel's true name to Bartimaeus. This vastly limits Nathaniel's control over the djinni, because spells can be cast on people when their true name is known (hence the practice of assigning names).

In the end, Nathaniel earns the respect of the majority of the other magicians including Rupert Devereaux, the Prime Minister. He is accepted as a magician in the government.

The Golem's Eye

Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus again, facing off against the Resistance and sinister magicians.

The second book picks up almost three years later and features Nathaniel as a junior magician working his way up the government ranks. He is described as one of the governments' rising young stars. In this book, Kitty Jones is introduced as an important character. She is a part of the Resistance movement, which seeks to end the oppressive rule of the magicians. Nathaniel is tasked by his superiors to crush the Resistance movement and capture the members. His task is complicated when a seemingly invulnerable clay golem starts to make random attacks on London. Much to the displeasure of Bartimaeus, Nathaniel recalls the djinni to aid him in uncovering the origins of the golem, and to save his own skin.

During the course of the book Nathaniel is almost fired from his post and executed for treason. By the end of the book however he has come back to favor when Duvall's conspiracy comes to light.

Ptolemy's Gate

In Ptolemy's Gate, Nathaniel has risen to the ruling Council and is arguably the most powerful magician in the government. He stands against a force of hybrid magicians with spirits trapped inside them, led by Nouda. Romantic feelings are hinted at in the book at various points between Kitty and himself. Nathaniel summons Bartimaeus into his body to help fight the Hybrids with Gladstone's staff, and destroys most of them, leaving only Nouda alive. However, during this fight, Nathaniel is seriously injured and he loses strength quickly, even with Bartimaeus' assistance. When Nathaniel and Bartimaeus confront Nouda, Nathaniel dismisses Bartimaeus which saves Baritmaeus just prior to the staff being destroyed killing both Nouda and Nathaniel. Bartimaeus returned to the Other Place, but is known to have survived; according to his "journal", he was summoned by a female magician with a stutter afterwards. Kitty, in the end, goes visit her old friend Jakob before she begins to travel around the world in a new life.

Trivia

  • Nathaniel's chosen magician name, John Mandrake, may be a reference to the popular comic strip and real life magician, Mandrake the Magician
  • Nathaniel's birthday is on November 26, as confirmed by the author.

References


DYK nomination of Al Farooj Fresh

Hello! Your submission of Al Farooj Fresh at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Shubinator (talk) 14:23, 23 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am not seeing the entry anymore? Best, --A NobodyMy talk 05:23, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

ThankSpam

My RfA

Thank you for participating in my "RecFA", which passed with a final tally of 153/39/22. There were issues raised regarding my adminship that I intend to cogitate upon, but I am grateful for the very many supportive comments I received and for the efforts of certain editors (Ceoil, Noroton and Lar especially) in responding to some issues. I wish to note how humbled I was when I read Buster7's support comment, although a fair majority gave me great pleasure. I would also note those whose opposes or neutral were based in process concerns and who otherwise commented kindly in regard to my record.
I recognise that the process itself was unusual, and the format was generally considered questionable - and I accept that I was mistaken in my perception of how it would be received - but I am particularly grateful for those whose opposes and neutrals were based in perceptions of how I was not performing to the standards expected of an administrator. As much as the support I received, those comments are hopefully going to allow me to be a better contributor to the project. Thank you. Very much. LessHeard vanU (talk) 16:01, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Well, back to the office it is...
You're welcome and Happy Memorial Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 00:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

....:)

Based on our extensively different opinions on RfA, it makes me smile that I nominated a contributor that would merit your strong support. Happy editing to you. Keegantalk 07:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I am always pleased when I make another Wikipedian smile! :) Happy Memorial Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 03:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Delivered by SoxBot (talk) at 03:09, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update and Happy Memorial Day! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 03:19, 26 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ugly sisters

This is shaping up really well, well done. Are you finished with it for now? There is some research I want to do (not OR!) but I don't want to tread on your toes, I'm sure you hate edit conflicts as much as I do, especially on long pages. pablohablo. 19:36, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! I have class for the next three hours, so be my guest. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 20:31, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's going to take longer than that! Basically my beef is with the whole first section - I have started rewriting this, but as the Cinderella myth is really, really ancient and occurs in different forms in many languages and cultures, I think it needs a strong "early" section to balance out the later Disney/Shrek detail, which is better documented, at least on the Internet. I may have to go and dig out some Actual Paper Books™ in order to get it into the shape that I think it should be. pablohablo. 22:30, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'll gladly give you some time to rework what you would like before I return to the article. Just let me know when you think I should resume. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 23:43, 27 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It's all yours. I need to find some stuff for referencing and my editing time is limited due to work pressure, so have at it! pablohablo. 22:21, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

If you would like to work on it some more per User:Pablomismo/Uglysisters, by all means. I am grading book reviews for about the next week and as such my Wikipedia editing is limited to fast edits that don't require much thought and time. Best, --A NobodyMy talk 22:27, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Judiciousness in the use of welcome templates

Hi. As a general rule, welcoming new contributors is a good thing, but I think it is important to be judicious in our welcoming -- particularly the welcoming of new anonymous IPs. I think you have been overly generous in your welcoming.

There are numerous anonymous contributors who make only one minor contribution and never return, so I figure it's generally not a productive use of my time to welcome one-time anonymous contributors, unless their work was unusually good. If you enjoy doing this, however, far be it from me to say it's not a good use of your time. However, Wikipedia looks rather silly when long and glowing welcome statements are issued to IP users whose only contributions were vandalism. Unfortunately, this was the case with a few of your recent "welcomes." I am alerting you to these to help you watch out for similar cases in the future.

After I reverted 76.28.191.252's sole edit for being unconstructive, I went to issue a warning and was surprised to see that you had provided a warm welcome at the user's talk page. Another case of a user whose work didn't deserve a glowing welcome is User_talk:122.167.88.80 -- that user's only contribution was reverted for being link spam. In another instance, did you actually think that this edit on Jimbo's talk page justified a "welcome"? (Even if that user hadn't later been identified as a sockpuppet, that "contribution" was not something that makes me want to rush up to the contributor and say "thank you for that contribution -- please register and do more work just like it.")

I hope you can be more careful in the future about maintaining the credibility of your "welcome" statements. --Orlady (talk) 02:53, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sockpuppetry accusation

Thank you A Nobody, the matter has come to my attention.

You are welcome, but I hope these are not true. Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 22:02, 28 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I'm allready using turkish wikipedia. http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kullan%C4%B1c%C4%B1:Cromartie i couldnt find how can you sending messages each other. we do this with changing our profiles. now i will get a english wikipedia account. good bye 88.247.5.12 (talk) 22:05, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, happy editing! Sincerely, --A NobodyMy talk 22:07, 30 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thnanks

for the welcome, i'm not going to register Greeks are not really welcome to wikipedia, you see.

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