Talk:Sperm donation

Merge

I think sperm donor should be merged into this article. They have a huge amount of overlap. Also, the much more extensive organ donation and blood donation articles have redirects from organ donor and blood donor. If donor and donation information can be incorporated into those articles, I don't see why it cannot be done in this one. -- Kjkolb 17:03, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

I completely agree. I however think they both has too much subjective information and too little objective information. I have tried to correct some but also don't want to do to much as I am new to this. Clausbbb

They've been merged, but it could use some cleanup. -- Kjkolb 07:32, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

What does this mean?

"Through the advent of DNA testing and internet access to extensive databases of information, many sperm donors have recently been traced and it has made them have to confront how to present the fact that they were a donor to their wife or girlfriend as well as to their wider family."

Huh? Kinst 02:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

The article indicates that "Many" donors have been traced over the internet as a result of DNA testing however only one case is cited and I believe this is an unsupported accusation. Does anyone have a reference that would back this up?

Credentials?

"Few checks if any are made by sperm banks on sperm donors' self-supplied details and some sperm banks routinely inflate the credentials of their donors."

This is a pretty big accusation. Should require clarification ("The following researchers or individuals have claimed that..." or sources. ~~ Aristagoras

Equivalent article needed on egg donation

I added Egg Donantion to Requested Articles, but thought it would be a good idea to put it here too -- a lot of the same issues involved. See Brown, Andrea (2006-07-24). "The family nest eggs". The Gazette, Colorado Springs, Colorado. --Renice 00:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

There is such an article on egg donor. I made a link there at the bottom. Mikael Häggström 12:24, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I've made a redirect from Egg Donation so nobody else misses it. I think we should keep the two articles consistent. One is named 'sperm donation' while the other is named 'egg donor'. Since the interaction involves a recipient and children as well, 'egg donation' would probably be more appropriate. Richard001 07:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Link Farm

The site needs some links to sperm banks of course, but I'm not quite clear on why all of the ones on the list, need to be there. I'm sure we could prune it to one or two from each country.

ManicParroT 17:56, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Agreed. I've removed a large number of links which appeared to be advertising particular services or Yahoo groups. More could probably stand to go, on top of that, but we'll see. – Luna Santin (talk) 19:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

The Free Fertility Foundation

This link appears to be to advertising for one donor - suggest deletion. 130.216.191.182 07:36, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

• It wasn't ment to be, but if it might appear so, go ahead. Mortsggah 14:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

• • Already gone. ...adam... ^{(talk • contributions)} 14:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

Additional references

I removed the tag at the top requesting more references, since there are several references in the article. Therefore, further requests of references are better made in the respective sections instead where such are lacking. Mikael Häggström 11:29, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Merging or moving

I think sperm bank is a candidate to be merged into this article. A sperm bank is an important aspect of sperm donation, and should be given more coverage here besides just linking to it. The article is very small though, so merging may be a better idea, especially as this one is not particularly large itself. There's also the possibility of merging both this and egg donation into one broader article (say gamete donation), though I think the topics are distinct enough and both have much potential despite being quite brief at this stage. Richard001 08:12, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Up-dating

I have amended the table relating to the number of permitted births to reflect the change in the law in Sapin. I have also changed the previous references etc where necessary.

Spain was being seen as a destination for 'fertility tourists' and reports of Spanish clinics recruiting egg donors from Easter European counties, and importing quantities of donor sperm from other countries thoughout the European Union by the onselling of sperm served to fuel a debate which led to the imposition of these restrictions.

The previous position left the numbers in each case to individual practitioners. It is thought that many of these imposed US style limits and that in effect, they always used up the available material. Sperm donation in Spain is anonymous

It should be noted that surrogacy arrangements have been outlawed in Spain for some years.

A comment from a Spanish correspondent would be appreciated.

Samples per child

I find the section on Child per sample very useful. I just have two comments. First, would it be possible to distinguish donor samples meaning single ejaculates from donor samples meaning vials? I thnk the references in this section are to the former but perhaps this could be made clear. Secondly, would it be possible to add a fomula for donor samples used in IVF?

I made it a little more clear that it's about ejaculates and not vials (the number of vials needed differs by the concentration of sperm used, since it needs to make a total of ~20 million sperm). Regarding IVF, it may be possible to find the numbers for the simplest form of it too. However, it should perhaps fit better in the IVF-article, since there are many different IVF-procedures, not only related to sperm donation. For instance, ICSI is one form of IVF, and, since it only uses one single sperm cell, one ejaculations could theoretically give rise to millions of children. Mikael Häggström (talk) 10:13, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Perhaps the ejaculate concentration and success rates are somewhat higher for sperm donors, especially when compared to infertile couples. Perhaps we will have to search separate sources for the values here and in the article Artificial insemination.Mikael Häggström (talk) 10:29, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Michael- Thank you for amending and clarifying the new section you added, and thank you also for your further explanation here. I believe that it is true that ejaculate concentrations and success rates are generally higher for sperm donors. One reason for this is, as you suggest, that 'male factor' fertility issues are the reason behind many couples seeking fertility treatment. In my experience however, the data available does not always make the distinction between treatments with donor sperm and treatments with partner sperm. I also take your pont about IVF procedures and that it is difficult to know where best to put the information. It is also true, as you say, that some treatments involving IVF could theoretically give rise to many pregnancies. My concern about not including this here is that many sperm banks now offer vials for ART uses and without some kind of comparison, or at least explanatory note, many readers will not be aware of the situation. (User talk: ALEXEIS)

Question

how long does the sprem last once it enters the vagina

See Semen_quality#Environment, and please see Wikipedia:Reference desk for for future questions. This is where we discuss the article itself. Mikael Häggström (talk) 18:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

New entry in Information about donor

This text in italics below was inserted in the "Information about donor"-section. Before being a part of the article again I would like to know for which country that mandatory-rule was made for, because I doubt it is a universal law of the Unitied Nations. And although it is very possible to be true, I'd like to see a more specified reference to the claim of inaccuracies given from sperm banks. User:This deserves inclusion (talk) 11:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

However since 2005 it has been mandatory for sperm banks to obtain proof of donor identity. Through connections made via a web group called the donorsiblingregistry.com (the DSR) it has been demonstrated that very frequently donors and/or sperm banks lie about donor attributes regarding physical traits and in terms of academics, athleticism and accomplishments.

If I'm not mistaken it was inserted by the same editor (Miranda770) that keeps making unsourced POV edits[1]. I think it doesn't belong in the article. Not until it's properly referenced, anyway. Yintaɳ  09:20, 16 May 2009 (UTC)

Up-date to inlcude reference to Natural Insemination

I note that a small change was made to the definition of 'sperm donation' to accommodate the term 'natural insemination', also known as 'NI'.

A number of private sperm donors are now offering this, as well as some fertility clinics in China and India.

Although it does seem a somewhat curious development, it would seem right that the Encyclopedia should at least refer to this method. I have therefore made a few textual changes in an attempt to ensure that the article is consistent in its approach on this matter.