Talk:Alternative fuel

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Alternatives to oil

I'm afraid in merging with "Fuel" we have orphaned those uses of oil which do not include "fuel" Oil is a base for petrochemicals as well as plastics and pesticides (a non-fuel petrochemical). These are quite important uses of oil, and I suggest we find a way to embrace them. Perhaps we merge the other way - and make Energy one of several uses for oil which require alternatives? Benjamin Gatti

Ripped Off

Part of this article is not cited when it is VERY clear that it was just copied and pasted from answers.com. I found this out when searching Google. The entries match exactly.

129.120.194.7 23:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Actually it's the other way around. Answers.com pulls information from a variety of sources including most especially Wikipedia. Look up any other Wikipedia article title on Answers.com, and you'll probably find the entries match.

Correct me if I'm wrong but that's not even a reverse-rip off becasue Wikipedia specifically releases content under the GFDL 75.169.141.84 (talk) 03:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, it's released as long as there's some citation to Wikipedia included. NJGW (talk) 03:39, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What is this about?

If this article is about alternative energy, then what's the point, there is an alternative energy page already. If it is about direct replacements to petroleum for use in vehicles, this is covered in some detail on the alternative fuel vehicle page. At the moment it tries to do both and has become a cumbersome article which does not (in my opinion) answer the questions of people who would be looking at it.

I suggest: 1). All information in this article regarding alternative energy be moved to the alternative energy page (and links therein) (if it is not already covered there) and a link to that page be placed at the start of this article.

2). The information in this article should be updated with reference to the alternative fuel vehicle article which includes many other possible options.

Opinions? --Peter Logstone (talk) 18:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think those are both good suggestions. Unless someone feels otherwise within a few days, I'd say those are non-controversial decisions and you should be able to start implementing them soon. NJGW (talk) 21:57, 10 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Bi liquid fuels

Oil and water can mixed in a stable form, without a suffactant.

There is the possibility to water down all oil based fuels by up to 20%

Providing the mix contains some ethanol the fuel retains its power

This can be possible and the mixture will remain a stable dispersion providing the fluids are put through the correct process

Philip McDowell —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.32.121.253 (talk) 18:34, 7 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Fossil fuel

Fossil fuel are not really alternative fuels, because they go the same problem than petroleum: they are not renewable and produce fossil fuels. --Mac (talk) 06:16, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I removed the section on non-conventional oil, beefed up the CNG info, and renamed what's left as "Alternative fossil fuels". NJGW (talk) 12:41, 21 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comparisation of alternative fuels

Can a table be made comparing the alternative fuels based on co2 emissions, cost, ... Also include hydrogen peroxide —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.245.188.240 (talk) 16:14, 1 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hydrogen

I think, undergo a chemical change should be a temperature change, Mion (talk) 00:27, 7 September 2008 (UTC) see : Thermal hydrogen compressor . Mion (talk) 00:36, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Renaming of article

The article can perhaps be renamed to "Combustible energetic fluid"/Combustible energy substances. This as the main focus is on ("alternative") combustible energy carriers, eg those that can be burned in a conventional internal combustion engine (so that engines may be modified rather than swapped).Also, the substances must be storable (holding its energy over some degree of time)

Renewable power (electricity) is not storable (unless in a battery, but then the energy source is the battery; not the power) and should be removed.

Biomass (pure wood) can also be used as a "fuel" (see http://www.biomassauthority.com/a/precer-bioracer-biomass-car/) Not sure where to mention it however, perhaps on other article as it probably cant be burned in a ICE engine. Biochar too can probably be mentioned.