Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ian Daly

Ian Daly

Deleted with A7 and recreated some days after. Magioladitis (talk) 00:55, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

STRONG KEEP - This is a relevant article providing valuable added information to Wikipedia. Please stop the overzealous policing and deletion of Wikipedia articles. Furthermore, this meets each of Wikipedia's Five Pillars which explicitly states they are the only five rules, rendering all other arguments irrelevant.Aliveatoms (talk) 00:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment. Aliveatoms (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) made the identical recommendation on six AfDs in quick succession. —C.Fred (talk) 01:02, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Verified against the Aris website;[1] Daly is on the roster. Full professional on the main roster of a top-level professional team meets WP:ATHLETE. Expansion seems to be the appropriate course. —C.Fred (talk) 01:09, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Subject has played at a professional level, and thus meets notability guidelines for athletes. Edward321 (talk) 03:23, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Football-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Athletes-related deletion discussions. -- TexasAndroid (talk) 17:58, 21 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. Giant Snowman 13:27, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - while he does exist and does play for Aris, he doesn't appear to have played in a first-team ganme. Therefore he fails WP:ATHLETE, as you have to make a first-team appearance in a fully-pro league in order to be notable. Giant Snowman 13:32, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - He has played for the Irish Under 19 National Team FYI, the only reason why he hasnt made a fist team appearance this season is because the league has not started yet!, i say we wait until the new league season begins in Greece (August 22) and wait until Round 5 at least to see if he make an appearance, if he doesnt, fair enough delete the article. Alexandros (talk) 13:41, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Youth caps ar international level do not confer notability, and saying "he will play" is a pure case of crystallballery. Giant Snowman 13:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Says who?--Vintagekits (talk) 15:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Delete being on a roster/squad doesn't fulfill any criteria, he has to have actually played for the club. Youth caps do not confer notability. Also there are no third-party sources that meet WP:N/WP:V at the moment. Recreate if/when he ever makes his debut. --Jimbo^[online] 15:48, 22 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment, within ten second V and N issues address and sorted.--Vintagekits (talk) 15:06, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Comment I'd say the only two independent are the Goal.com and RTE, however they're not in detail as per WP:GNG. --Jimbo^[online] 20:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Keep, per WP:N and WP:BIO which trumps the flawed WP:ATHLETE.--Vintagekits (talk) 14:48, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, recreate when he actually plays a senior match for somebody. Jmorrison230582 (talk) 18:58, 23 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Full professional on the main roster of a top-level professional team meets WP:ATHLETE. If he continues to play reserve football, he might as well be deleted, but this is unseemly haste. Jhealy (talk) 15:23, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Actually WP:ATHLETE doesn't mention top-level, but fully-professional and says he must have competed, rather than just be on a roster. --Jimbo^[online] 16:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  - Actually all the players on the Ireland U-19 team are professional therefore he passes WP:ATHLETE - "competed at the fully professional level of a sport" - bingo bango!--Vintagekits (talk) 17:56, 24 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]