Talk:The Devil Wears Prada (band)

They aren't any kind of fucking legend anywhere. If you enjoy their music, stay the hell away from me. Fucking serious Why has it been deleted? Why does no one discuss it here first?

the reason states that they were "non-notable"? how are they non-notable? everyone knows about them around here, they are a legend

They are notable enough. They've met Wikipedia's requirements. It's probably just some sad disgruntled metal fan/fans that believe The Devil Wears Prada isn't a Christian band. Guess the quotes in the page are the reason for this. I wouldn't worry too much about it. IronCrow 07:45, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you an idiot? I am fully aware that they're a Christian band, I fail to see how this affects their "legend" status. Any fuckhead could see the word is used far too lightly!

Not a legend. I could care less if they're Christian, mostly because it is the biggest sham in the history of civilization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.153.224.18 (talk) 04:58, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

DRV and restoration

Consensus at the DRV was that an assertion of notability could probably be made. Per the DRV nominator's suggestion, I've restored the previous version from May 3 as a starting point; those who work on the article, please make sure to include an assertion of the band's notability. Krimpet (talk) 00:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

• Also, per the deletion review, please add additional reliable sources corroborating the band's notability. At the moment, the only sources are Purevolume, Myspace, and other primary/non-independent sources. Secondary sources, such as media mentions, would make the article much stronger. --Kinu ^t/_c 06:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

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Dogs Can Grow Beards All Over

Dogs Can Grow Beards All Over is not a real music video, thats advertisement for their cd, it needs to be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Underoathfan90 (talk • contribs) 05:44, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

it was a music video wasn't it? because they have a video to the music they have made? not meaning to be rude, but doesnt that make it a music video? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jefasiah (talk • contribs) 04:17, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

Quotes have been sabotaged.

yeah, just read them. they've been sabotaged. I read them before, that's not what they said. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acid 1 (talk • contribs) 06:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

The quotes have been sabotaged. EDIT

Thank goodness for reverting and copies of old edits. Changed back to normal. 'MuthaChuck' would be the culprit.

Unnesecary additions

"PEOPLE NEED TO LEARDN NOT TO ADD THINGS ! THAT MAKESME MADDDD SERIOUSLY LET THE WEBSITE MAKERS PICK WHATS ON THIS." was added to the albums section... BLAH THIS BAND IS AWESOME! This thing dissapoints me, and it has been removed —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.76.229.7 (talk) 14:59, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Genre

Please do not list "Alternative CCM" as a genre. It is not a genre related to the band, as it does not encompass hardcore/metalcore bands. Please refer to the Alternative CCM article for further reference. It's basically the same as listing "Christian rock" on every Christian rock band's page, when their styles could be "Pop Punk" or "Deathcore." IronCrow (talk) 01:27, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Also to note: I don't think anyone minds Hardcore as another genre, except that it is kind of broad. IronCrow (talk) 16:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Well, TDWP is certainly not deathcore like JFAC. That's why I keep changing it to hardcore. Check the sources, Mike Hranica cites This is Hell as a big inspiration. Clearly this influence would carry over into a more hardcore sounding album as opposed to JFAC. JFAC (being deathcore) cites bands like Cattle Decapitation and Decapitated as influences. TDWP does not cite them as influences; therefore, TDWP is more hardcore than deathcore.

I'll just remove the unsourced genres altogether.Inhumer (talk) 19:45, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Good plan, thank you for doing that!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.208.54 (talk) 00:20, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

I stated deathcore because there are obvious Deathcore influences in the band's instrumental work. Vocals are a completely different story. Regardless of what the band cites as an influence, it doesn't mean the band will sound like it. For instance, Demon Hunter cites Pantera, theya ren't very much alike. IronCrow (talk) 05:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

I'd just like to add, for the records. I had listend to JFAC (new album) and then, later found TDWP. I must say I was shocked at how much they sounded alike. All I'm trying to say is, as IronCrow has stated, is no matter what a band states they are as a genre, it may not be right on what they say. Acid 1 (talk) 07:52, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, TDWP's "Dear Love" album is what reminded me of Job For a Cowboy, though the newest album doesn't. IronCrow (talk) 23:30, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

I think deathcore should be listed as a genre as TDWP sounds very similar to At The Throne of Judgment, who is listed as deathcore. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.199.23.231 (talk) 21:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

I believe so as well, but I won't put it up because it keeps getting reverted. IronCrow (talk) 02:23, 30 March 2008 (UTC) WHO THE HELL KEEPS PUTTING SCREAMO??????????? THEY ARE IN NO WAY SCREAMO> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.199.23.231 (talk) 01:41, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Whoever put death metal, hmmmm, nope!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.185.176.245 (talk) 23:43, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

Who in the hell put Jungle with a link that goes to geographical Jungle??? 20:49, 28 April 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yet Inue (talk • contribs)

Someone stuck up Metalcore as the genre and decided to be a one man consensus... You guys settle that.¤IrønCrøw¤ (Speak to Me) 04:04, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I moved the ref to the intro. ¤IrønCrøw¤ (Speak to Me) 20:37, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

I think they are more hardcore than they are "post-hardcore". Even their official Myspace says "hardcore". NewYorkStyledCheesecakes (talk) 06:58, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

ok who's idea to put Emo on there Gerne and post-Hardcore. There sound sounds to much like Metlacore with a littele dethcore mixed with it cause some breakdowns sounds like something from Bring Me the Horizon and suicide silence (Haloblade345 (talk) 03:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC))

I'm not sure if this is where I'm supposed to post this but it says on the page to discuss it here. Why can't Christian be used instead of American? Everywhere I see they're listed as Christian Metalcore. They're lyrics are religious most of the time and they talk about God when they perform. (Look at the lyrics for Rosemary Had An Accident if you don't believe me.) I'm just wondering so don't flip out on me. XD (Tham22 (talk) 16:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC))

The reason this whole genre issue is such a problem across wikipedia is not that it's actually difficult issue: but rather people approach it the wrong way. They start talking about their own opinion and arguing about that. As with everything here, it's actually very simple: we go by the sources. I'll go have a quick look at the ones I know of, and come back here with what they say. Then we include that, regardless of anyone's personal opinion. Prophaniti (talk) 09:42, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

Right, having looked, not much came up: almost all my usual sources didn't have any info on the band at all, so for the most part they seem too obscure. In the end, I was forced to turn to allmusic. An atrocious source, but with nothing else available there's little choice. It listed "Heavy metal" and "Alternative CCM" as their genres, and also said they are a "Christian metalcore act".

So, the lead should really go with this, and say "Christian metalcore". As for the infobox, that's a bit more tricky. We should have "metalcore", but as well as this there's also argument for "alternative ccm", "heavy metal" and "christian metal". Personally? I'd go with "metalcore" and "christian metal", as this seems to perfectly cover heavy metal and alternative ccm anyway. Metal + Christian = Christian metal, and the allmusic page itself says they're metalcore. If folks disagree with this, here's the place to discuss it. Prophaniti (talk) 09:57, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

I completely agree. (98.111.53.182 (talk) 02:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC))

Although not initially involved in this discussion, it seems logical that Christian Metalcore is an acceptable descriptor, just like Christian Pop, Christian Rap, etc. It seems since no one has voiced an reason for removing the Christian descriptor, it ought to stay. Nicktfx (talk) 21:37, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

http://www.punkbands.com/interviews/280/ The guys from devil wears prada in an interview. Their shrugoff christianity attitude does not give them claim to a Christian genre. Matthew 7:15-20 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. KJV Kyle van der Meer (talk) 16:15, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Kyle, that verse is very true, and i actually am getting Matthew 7:18 tattooed on my arm because it has meant so much in my life. But you have to be aware that in using that verse you are not judging the members of the band. Do you know them personally? does it matter how they act? From what i have seen and heard of the band members of TDWP, they are devoted christians that love god and want to do his works, they have fun whilst doing this, and god wants us to serve him, and if we enjoy that, then isnt that the ultimate goal. so i cant see that being a bad thing. Also i strongly protest against the bible being used to bring people down, would you like it if your christianity was contested by a complete random person? if you were friends with the band you might have the influence to encourage them to change there ways (if they were doing the wrong things) but when your a stranger i believe that your words can tear down peoples motivation. The bible is not a weapon. It is more important to encourage people to walk on the straight path, this inturn will motivate them to continue to follow god whole heartedly.

iCheets (talk) 23:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Could someone do a more recent live photo please, i am new to this, and it would be even greater if someone could teach me —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jefasiah (talk • contribs) 02:10, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

Members

On their MySpace page, TDWP states they are writing and recording a new album. There are pictures of vocalist Mike Hranica recording with a guitar, so I shall edit the members section to state that Hranica contributes guitar to the group. Sparkplugz (talk) 04:57, 2 February 2009 (UTC)

deathcore

like i mean for real, does anyone thin that they are a deathcore band because they always end up confusing me when it comes to their genre. I mean they are obviously metalcore or deathcore. Just trying to figure out which genre they have more in common with —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.226.79.244 (talk) 06:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Image

I prefer the one of mike so much better, its more recent, so can we get a better all band photo, or put the one with just mike back up —Preceding unsigned comment added by ICheets (talk • contribs) 00:19, 30 July 2009 (UTC)