Wikipedia:Files for deletion/2009 August 2
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- Inadequate source information. PhilKnight (talk) 22:00, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- purely decorative screenshot, excessive use of non-free images Ejfetters (talk) 23:27, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- image is from unknown origin, copyright unclear, purpose unclear. entire work is used (likely publicity photo) where a screenshot is less infringing as it is only a partial image from a larger work. replace with screenshot, as done with several shows, i.e. Star Trek Ejfetters (talk) 23:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
- Comment - a publicity photo, intended for wide release, is less infringing? —Ed (Talk • Contribs) 02:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- The publicity photo is more infringing. The intent is unknown. A complete work is more infringing than a miniscule portion of the work, yes. 74.204.40.46 (talk) 05:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- Delete Martin Sheen's appearance as Josiah Bartlet is really no different than his appearance outside the role. This image can be replaced by File:Sheen, Martin (2008).jpg or this one, which shows him on set of the series. See also Wikipedia:NFC#Non-free_image_use_in_list_articles #5, which while this is not a list shows an important point supporting WP:NFCC #1; we have a free equivalent that serves the same purpose. --Hammersoft (talk) 15:35, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- That guidance is specifically about which images to prioritise in lists. It is accepted that images of actors out of character are not a substitute for in-character representations of that character in articles solely devoted to the particular character. Jheald (talk) 16:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- As I noted in my post, this image is in character. Also, even if the person is not explicitly in character, if their visual appearance is essentially the same, then WP:NFCC #1 applies. It is policy. You can see examples of this being done correctly at List_of_Stargate_SG-1_characters#Hank_Landry and List_of_recurring_Earth_characters_in_Stargate_SG-1 (entire article). List_of_James_Bond_henchmen_in_Die_Another_Day#Zao shows a case where the in character appearance is dramatically different. Compare [1] and [2]. We do not need a fair use image to show what Martin Sheen looks like with his hair combed and in a business suit. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- That guidance is specifically about which images to prioritise in lists. It is accepted that images of actors out of character are not a substitute for in-character representations of that character in articles solely devoted to the particular character. Jheald (talk) 16:00, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
- As stated before, screencaps are less infringing. Rememeber this image has 1 - no source, 2 - is of unknown origin (even if someone searches google images do we know who holds the copyright?) 3 - the purpose can be speculated but we can't be sure without evidence that its use here is permissable. Shows such as Star Trek (TNG, DS9 etc.) has mass nominations for its publicity images and the outcome was that the screencaps are less infringing because there are a miniscule portion of the entire work (one frame from an episode with thousands of frames) and the publicity image is the entire work. How would the arguments made for the numerous Star Trek publicity images be any different from The West Wing publicity images? Ejfetters (talk) 06:52, 5 August 2009 (UTC)