Talk:Ain't No Sunshine

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hey, how do you understand this song ? i think we should explain that in the article ;)

obviously it's a very sad love song :) do you agree ?

I think it's a brilliant song -- User:George cowie

Merger

I am preposing this be merged with the Just as I am Album. And a redirect twards the Album. --Bonojohn 19:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)--[reply]

Hmm no, almost every song in the top 500 songs of all time as an article Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 19:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well than it needs to be improved. --Bonojohn 19:42, 13 July 2006 (UTC)--[reply]

Yea, but right now it's an harmless stub, I'll expand later on Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 19:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I am glad you placed the expand box Jaranda its better than the merge I preposed --Bonojohn 07:30, 17 July 2006 (UTC)--[reply]

I believe verification and/or explanation is required for Otis Redding’s cover of “Ain’t No Sunshine”. The song was first released in 1971, three years after the death of Otis Redding. Now as I understand it, Bill Withers, having wrote the song, began playing the song in jook joints at night, while still working in a factory during the day. All of this was going on in L.A. when he moved there in 1967, the same year Otis Redding died. As far as I am able find, there is no version of "Ain't No Sunshine" done by Otis Redding. futhermore, the only connection that I can find between Otis and Bill is there connections with Booker T & The MG's. Otis working with Steven Cropper, while Bill worked with Booker T himself. Therefore, I believe, if it is true, that an explanation how Otis Redding covered the song is needed, to fill in the seeming discrepancy for those, like myself, who might wonder how it’s possible.Elamantededios 14:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"I know" x 26

Seems that any discussion of this song would be incomplete without at least a passing reference to it being the only song, in any genre or decade, in which the vocalist repeats the words "I know" 26 times -- at least on the recording Bill Withers made popular. Who else has sung it, and has s/he also included that? Does anyone know if alternate takes exist w/o that? What was the point of that being part of the song, anyway? Typofixer76 03:14, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

In Will Young's version, he sings "I know" 26 times. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:01, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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UK radio

""Ain't no sunshine" is one of the few songs that is still a major hit on UK radio stations."

what does that mean? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.46.116.110 (talk) 04:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

How is it possible that this song has been covered by Otis Redding if it was written in 1971 and he died in 1967? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.118.248.19 (talk) 03:34, 6 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

"All That" repeated use?

I never saw the show, but apparently a character on "All That" would sing that song, after which she'd say "Bacon good". The character was some old grandma or something. Played by Britney Spears' younger sister, Jamie Lynn. Not sure if any of that is true, if it is, prolly makes sense to include a reference in the "pop culture uses" section here. 199.214.26.82 (talk) 23:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cover versions

Despite the template reminding folks to reference their edits, the list is now way too long. Not sure how to fairly include/exclude items, so I suggest a future List of cover versions of Ain't No Sunshine. Meanwhile, am removing redlinks.--Technopat (talk) 08:44, 29 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Talking about the cover versions list, it definitely needs some sorting, alphabetically. The way it looks now is just, well, messy. Like people randomly threw names at it. :-) BTW, the Michael Jackson version is actually a Jackson Five version. It's featured on the album "The Very Best of Michael Jackson with the Jackson Five". --78.34.40.33 (talk) 09:58, 7 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Also, why on earth is DMX given his own cover section? Is this cover more important than the other covers?--121.45.190.187 (talk) 11:27, 20 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DMX section now filed under "Use in pop culture", details moved to DMX (rapper); --78.52.143.228 (talk) 15:43, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

On toilets and trivia

We've recently had an edit war over including the following sentence in the article.

"Withers was still working at a factory that made toilet seats for Boeing 747s when he recorded the song."

I'm bringing it here for wider discussion in hopes of gaining consensus. To begin with, the reference on that particular fact didn't mention the toilet seats. It seems unsourced without a proper reference, although I'm certainly not saying it didn't happen.

Furthermore, this seems extremely trivial to me. One of the edits adding it even referred to it as "trifling," [1] so it doesn't seem this adds anything to the article other than trivia.

As I've said, I don't see this is anything other than trivia, but I'm certably willing to listen to opposing views. Any thoughts? Dayewalker (talk) 22:03, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

As the editor who originally removed the item, the reason I did so was that even if were true, and there isn't really any reason to doubt it, a) it wasn't sourced/referenced; b) I don't think it adds anything to the article, that is, in my opinion it's trivia, and c) the article mentions a living person and Wikipedia is especially careful about contentious content. Any of those three reasons would justify removing it, but if consensus says otherwise... sigh!--Technopat (talk) 22:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

To begin with, the reference on that particular fact didn't mention the toilet seats. This comment is not true. I checked the reference Rolling Stone Ain't No Sunshine, and the source says:When thirty-one-year-old Withers recorded "Sunshine," his first chart hit, he was still working at a factory making toilet seats for 747s. Withers intended to write more lyrics for the part of the song where he repeats the phrase "I know" twenty-six times, but the other musicians told him to leave it. "I was this factory worker puttering around," Withers said. "So when they said to leave it like that, I left it."

I have therefore reinstated the statement about toilet seats. Given the prominence of the statement in the source, it must be judged significant.--Toddy1 (talk) 05:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Toddy1, I appreciate you finding that quote in the reference, don't know how I missed it. I stand corrected on the source. However, the question of relevance still stands. Just because it's mentioned in a short blurb in Rolling Stone doesn't necessarily make it notable or signifiant information about the song. It's still seems very trivial to discuss what the songwriter was doing before he wrote the song on the actual page for the song. Dayewalker (talk) 06:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]