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This article was nominated for deletion on 20 June 2005. The result of the discussion was keep.

NEW: The Olympic Rule

We should make a rule to only make a page for ONE (1) Olympic Game that have yet to be unassigned. For example... Since 2008 is Beijing, 2012 is London, 2016 is unassigned and thus the Olympic articles should stop. So when 2016 gets assigned, don't make a 2024 page until 2020 is assigned. Same can go for other events. So we're not just making pages for the sake of making pages, but we're not waiting until the last minute to make the page. It'll sort of be a compromise, so these pages don't get too far out of control. Agree/Disagree? Moonraker0022 08:07, 4 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with not "making pages for the sake of making pages," but I think this one deserves to be here. The coverage is real and the nomination process noteworthy. \/\/slack (talk) 21:46, 5 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

How about doing it this way? Combine the articles on the Olympics-yet-to-be-announced into a single article, entitled simply, "Future Olympiads", and just put it all in there? That way the article itself would continue to exist regardless of what had been announced. As it is, this article on 2020 is just ridiculously speculative, six years before even the host city is announced. Much of the 2020 speculation will probably overlap with the speculation for 2016 or 2024. Just put it all in one place. What do you all think? Unschool 04:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If there is no objection, I may try in the future to join together the articles on all future Olympiads which do not yet have announced host cities, for the reasons given above. Unschool 12:17, 2 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've gone ahead and done it. It certainly seems to me that there is entirely too much speculation in these articles, maybe that will be easier to see now. Unschool 04:44, 21 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Auckland bid?

Can someone source a reference for Auckland's bid? It was added on 27 March 2006 in this edit by 210.54.173.115.

I've googled "auckland olympic games bid" and have found nothing that hints that Auckland might bid to host any Olympic Games, let alone games which are this close (with Auckland's developing public transport system and lack of sporting facilities, and so on). That "rumours" exist for Auckland to bid is insufficient; at least semi-solid evidence, or demi-semi-solid evidence needs to be present if Wikipedia is to claim that Auckland is a potential bid.

If no reference is given within seven days, that is, on or before 2 July 2006 (UTC), I will remove the entire section on Auckland. Neonumbers 07:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the entire section on Auckland (three days after I promised to).

Please do not revert this edit. I feel I have explained the removal reasonably above. If you have a proper reference for the claim that Auckland is considering a bit, and rumours do not count as a "reference", then be sure to list the source on this page first (if this is the case then you can revert the change). Neonumbers 23:05, 5 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

- Please take a look at 2024 Summer Olympics - there is a section on an Auckland bid there, which refers to a 2020 bid.--Hamedog_Talk|^@ 06:10, 24 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Logo

Just something neat found on the web. http://www.xs4all.nl/~fwb/hano2020.gif

Slow news day

http://www.deadspin.com/sports/wikipedia/wikipedia-already-has-an-entry-for-the-2020-olympics-224006.php

Deadspin, a Google News registered blog about sports, has an article about there being an article on 2020. -- Zanimum 17:44, 27 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Moon Bid?

Mods, I don't even need to do a Google search to figure out that this is fake.

Maybe at the 2040 Games... Anyway, I zapped it as unsourced and highly dubious. -- Jonel | Speak 15:33, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Maybe 2140... We have have as many as a dozen people living on the moon in 2040 in something not much bigger than the International Space Station. Even that isn't very likely. 74.100.45.171 (talk)

Euro 2016 - Denmark

Here it says that Denmark is bidding for the Euro football championships with Sweeden in 2016, yet if we look at that page, it says that the Bid is Sweeden and Norway??? TJ 16/04/07 16.34 UTC

Clarification

Could somebody who is knowledgeable about the 2020 games please clarify the last paragraph about possible bidding changes after the 2016 games have been decided? Canada is also a part of the Americas, so that would also eliminate Rio. (At the very least, add South America or something) Thanks in advance. Crisco 1492 08:37, 7 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bangkok

I removed this text because it clearly states no one from Thailand has even discussed a bid. However, it is well written, and since they may bid if the Youth Olympics bid fails, it will save time to keep it here:

Bangkok, Thailand
Whilst neither Thailand nor the city of Bangkok have officially expressed any interest in holding the Olympics, Bangkok's location in the world creates a great advantage for any possible bids. As the IOC have expressed interest to awarding the games to a city in one of the regions of the world where there has not yet been an Olympic Games hosted, along with Kuala Lumpur, The Thai capital's Southeast Asian location, prominence in the region and the fact that it is a well known city internationally, high population and advanced infrastructure (for the region) make it an obvious choice for applicancy. Most of the development in Thailand takes place in Bangkok, and the city has one of the highest GDPs in the region.

--Cbradshaw (talk) 19:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dubai

Can someone clarify the five regions never to have hosted statement? It makes little sense and if no justification is forth coming I'm going to delete it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.28.201.63 (talk) 00:59, 10 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hobart

That is comedy gold. Hobart! LOL! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.168.1.209 (talk) 10:47, 7 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Vatican City

"Pope Benedict the 16th announced a bid for the 2020 Summer Olympics. St Patrick's Cathedral would be converted into the largest indoor swimming centre." Are you kidding me? Who wrote that? Can't be true! Swimming at St. Patrick's Cathedral? LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.19.193.222 (talk) 21:01, 12 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Re: Philippines

No news on this yet. The source is unreliable. I'm removing this for the time being. Whoever wrote it must be in for satirical purpose. I should know, I live in the country. ^__^ Xeltran (talk) 04:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good call. As I live in the country also, I'm having doubts about this. Did President GMA give an official statement? No. 121.58.205.126 (talk) 16:08, 10 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Some Recent Edits

I'm a bit shocked at some recent edits... it seems a few editors have been making tons of unilateral changes with no discussion. Many of the deleted potential bids should have been tagged for needing proper citations instead of just deleted. -MichiganCharms (talk) 17:03, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This article is of such a speculative nature that it is just begging for people to come in and add whatever notion comes into their head. The only protection we have against it becoming a place for psychic graffiti is swift elimination of all non-sourced speculation. I mean, even 90% of the sourced stuff is just speculation, but I'll respect it if it's actually coming from semi-official authorities.

Frankly, I'm not convinced of the wisdom in even having an article like this, when the beginning of the bidding process is still years away. But if it's going to exist, it needs not to be allowed to become a trash dump. Unschool (talk) 19:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I'm in basic agreement with Unschool. I'd give some leeway to sourced speculation for now, though - since that's all a reader could expect if they were interested in the subject. Unsourced speculation should be removed and the article will need a lot of overhaul as facts eclipse whimsy. --Dystopos (talk) 22:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

While it is true that a discussion is first needed before making revisions to unsourced potential bids, going for that method may entice other editors or anon ones to just keep adding more and just put a "citation needed" tag. For now, since the official bidding process is years away, we have to rely on sources that have original research and are reputable, like news sites, for instance. Xeltran (talk) 13:19, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ostensible Melbourne bid

Ron Walker has stated that Melbourne WILL bid for the 2020 olympics and the Premier of Victoria has also supported this decision. Well, first of all, Ron is no longer in any position of authority, is he? And even if he is, we need a source that is not just someone's personal fan page. I'm not doubting that Melbourne is going to submit a bid, I'm just saying, show some proof, just like all the other cities listed here. Please don't put this back in using this website as a reference. Unschool (talk) 11:04, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Australian OC has confirmed that if a bid will be logged from Australia for the 2020 Olympics, it will be Brisbane, not Melbourne that bids, although at this stage bid is more likely for 2024 Robert4011

Toledo, Ohio

the Toledo, Ohio article states that Toledo will be putting in a "strong bid" for the 2020 olympics, there is no citation and I plan to ask for one on that discussion page too. Anyone know anything about this? Mwv2 (talk) 23:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brisbane, Queensland

As cited in Reuters, the AOC states that the earliest Brisbane can bid for is 2020, with further possibility for 2024 and 2028. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Foundationexpo88 (talk • contribs) 10:17, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, the earliest they can bid. Doesn't mean they will. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 10:24, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please avoid reverting edits until a consensus is made whether Brisbane would indeed make a bid or not, if this continues, a violation of WP:3RR might be committed. I'll need to read the source first so I can give my own personal judgment. Xeltran (talk) 10:46, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I noticed that. We really need to come up with some kind of standard for what constitutes a potential bid. If the minimum requirement is an article that notes that 2020 is the earliest year any city can bid, then this page is really going to fill up fast. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 10:50, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Perhaps when more editors participate in the article, a consensus can be met. For now, we need to stick to solid sources regarding potential bids. If we just keep putting up ^{[citation needed]} tags, the article will be swarmed up with dubious statements. Xeltran (talk) 10:56, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't even bother with the fact tags, I just remove them. We could start a topic at WP:OLYMPICS, but we should probably wait until after the current games are done because most of the Olympics editors are very busy at the moment. -- Scorpion⁰⁴²² 10:58, 16 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Brisbane declared to be the next Australian host city? Only a matter of time before it returns to Australia? I think, considering these two facts, it is absurd that Brisbane, Australia is NOT mentioned. The only question is how long until -- not if -- it comes to Brisbane (something that can be said for only a handful of cities); and because 2020 has been mentioned, and because Brisbane is also officially bidding for the 2018 Commonwealth Games, and because the Games will have been to Asia, Europe (at least twice) and presumably the Americas in 2016 (and everywhere except Australia for the Winter Games) in the time since Sydney, a 2020 bid is highly likely and deserves a mentioning, especially at the moment while interest in the Olympics remains high.BowieX (talk) 13:39, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Delhi, India

Yes, New Delhi, India plans to bid for 2020 Olympics. India was planning for 2016, but decided to bid for 2020 instead. (Mahendra Singh, NJ USA). http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/other_sports/6603449.stm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.211.109 (talk) 03:41, 25 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Portugal

In 2016 OG article, the Lisbon reference talks about a possile biding in 2016 or 2020, as it's not possible to host the 2016 OG, I think that the reference should [1] should be taken as a good reference and a true one. I ear by many time from now, the Portugal (especialy Lisbon, as it's the capital), wants to host the games, at least one time. In 2020, we will have a all new aeroport, TGV (Lisbon Madrid - Lisbon Oporto Valencia), a new bridge, many new construction and reabilitations all over the city, the underground will increase by 30Km conecting important parts of Lisbon, etc, I think with this reference, and with all this projects, Lisbon is really considerating hosting the games João P. M. Lima (talk) 13:28, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Here is another reference that speaks about Lisbon 2020, an island to e constructed in Tagus (Rio Tejo), to be incorporated in the biding project for the olimpics. I will look up for more references, and i will put all of them here as i found them João P. M. Lima (talk) 13:34, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

another one [2] João P. M. Lima (talk) 13:41, 18 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]