Talk:Orbital (band)

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Halcion

"addicted to the tranquiliser Halcion (Triazolam) for many years."

Pretty sure Halcion is a benzodiaphine and not a tranq

Paul Hartnoll / Phil Hartnoll & Long Range

I propse that Paul Hartnoll discography is separated from the main Orbital page since it makes no sense to have solo work of the Hartnoll brothers (both of them have a band now, Phil Hartnoll's Long Range first Long Player is due out this year). While it is worth mentioning their solo projects on the Orbital page, Orbital discography must remain just that. Orbital officially ended in 2004, and we should respect that. :] TheEXIT 06:09, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Citations

--Tyler 23:30, 30 November 2005 (UTC) It would be helpful to attribute some sources to back up the claim that Orbital were among the most influential artists in the genre. While this is undoubtably true, it would be good to be able to cite polls, artists saying how much Orbital influenced them etc.

The two citations for Chimo Bayo need replacing. One has been removed from youtube and the other one doesn't prove he used head-mounted lights before Orbital did. (Chorleypie 13:01, 21 February 2007 (UTC))

I'm not sure that Chimo Bayo even needs to be mentioned, since it's not like Orbital is claiming they used head-mounted flashlights first. I'm sure lots of DJs have used headlights/head-mounted flashlights to see in the dark, so unless there's material to suggest that they were particularly notable for this, I think it can be left out. Anyway, I'm removing it for the meantime since there aren't sources. MrVibrating (talk) 04:38, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

this article won't be found when searched for.

it's really hard to find this article. a search for "orbital" reveals a lot of unrelated crap, as does "Orbital (band)" - the exact title of the article! what gives?! this is very wierd and annoying. i have to use the article for "Doctor Who Theme Music" to find it each time.

Odd; it comes up first when I search for it using either "orbital" or "orbital (band)". — JEREMY 17:57, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Orbital and pentatonic music

Hello. I suspect that a lot of Orbital's unusual sound (their music is without fail very distinctive as Orbital) is caused partly by their extensive use of pentatonic scales, used widely in Eastern (usually Asian) music but not in Western. Could somebody with more knowledge in musicology than myself confirm this by listening to e.g. 'Nothing Left 2' or 'Impact: The Earth Is Burning'. If someone could confirm this to be correct, it would make a useful addition to the article. Thanks, JH1977 18:58, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

Close, but no cigar :). The music itself (i.e. melodies and progressions) is not pentatonic, and posesses quite nice major and minor melodies, yet performed with multi-oscillator synth patches where one oscillator is tuned a fifth above or below the central pitch: if you wish to try this at home, use +/- 7 and +/- 5 for particular effects. From the music theory point of view, such practice is "bad" due to parallel fifths, yet such doubling during voice-leading has been used extensively by Claude Debussy for the sake of additionaly "coloring" his melodies with a bit of "not-really-tonal" feel. The practice is actually very effective and common in percussion music, for solo marimba and vibraphone, and examples of voice-leading in which a "voice" is consists of a line of perfect fifths running in parallel can be found in a lot of 20th century avant-garde and experimental music. Cheers, TheEXIT 22:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

Image

I added an image SelfStudyBuddy 09:48, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Had to remove the image, as it's not fair use to use a mag cover to illustrate the people on the cover. See #7 on WP:Fair_use#Counterexamples Rob T Firefly 03:07, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Remix list

It'd be great if we could add an official remix list to the article, as I've heard that The Prodigy remixed the song "Halcyon + on +on," although I cannot find this track. Gamer Junkie 07:49, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

To the best of my knowledge, you've been misinformed. TheEXIT 22:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC).

Yeah, that's about what I thought. Gamer Junkie 22:27, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

There is a track floating around named "Orbital - Halcyon (Prodigy remix)", and it is basically Halcyon + on + on, except without some of the background synths, and it sounds nothing like prodigy. Probably a misnomer. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.203.237.75 (talk) 12:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Needs work

Hey :) I am pretty much finished with working on FSOL stuff and i love Orbital aswell so i am planning to devote a good amount of time to Orbital stuff now, including making pages for all singles and albums, an artist template and adding all the album arts and all that. basically get the basics and a bit more of each page down so we have a nice, reasonably comprehensive Orbital run down on the site. ill start asap, with Chime i think. :) ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ(^Ταλκ) 08:16, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

I have changed the wording ever so slightly in the early career section to say that halcyon was 'one of their most popular songs', rather than 'probably their most well-known' as I think that could be incorrect. Broderick Curleyhair (talk) 11:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Political Commentary

As a person from Northern Ireland, i feel that to state that when Orbital played Belfast in 1990, it was during "The Height of the Troubles", is an inaccurate statement. If using the statistic of deaths directly related to Northern Ireland conflict (1969–2001), as a barometer of how serious the troubles were in that year, then 1990 (81 deaths listed as "conflict-related")would rank 17th in the 32 years, and would pale compared to the period of 1972-1976, whereby the lowest number of "conflict related" deaths was 253 in 1973. Yes, the troubles were still ongoing, but i think it is erroneous to suggest that they were making a political statement by playing there. The article referenced - Belfast: the war against cliché BBC, 24 January 2003, makes no specific correlation bewteen Orbital and the Troubles. All it states is: "Among the few outsiders whose vision of Belfast has chimed with its residents' mood is techno duo Orbital, who gave the city's name to a mournful electronic elegy after playing live there in 1990. It's wordless but somehow more evocative for that; it also captured a significant moment, the first wave of acid house and ecstasy culture in Northern Ireland, an era for which there is still much nostalgia." To try to associate the track as political commentary is in my opinion wrong. Social maybe, but not political. I would request that this section is edited. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.73.24.183 (talk) 12:19, 20 May 2009 (UTC)

Minor Changes To Text

I have made some minor changes to the first couple of paragraphs, in an attempt to make it read a little better. I do not intend to change the nature of the content. Can anyone think of a better description than 'electronic duo' to describe Orbital in the very first paragraph? Electronic dance act, electronica band, electronica act???? Broderick Curleyhair (talk) 17:33, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Take look at Chemical Brothers? "electronic music duo" seems to fit and might work here. sherpajohn (talk) 18:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Electronic music is filled with duos. Autechre, Boards of Canada, Orbital, Plaid, Future Sound of London, etc. Weird indeed, but I have heard the term used a lot before. 67.9.134.143 (talk) 08:50, 14 July 2009 (UTC)