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I think it's time to accept a nomination. Wikipedia has suffered for long enough without your skills as an admin :) Please say yes. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 12:05, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks very much MSGJ; for now, suffice to say that I'm very flattered in your confidence. I am currently on holiday, and not on wikipedia as much as normal - but I assure you that I will give your suggestion due consideration, and will respond further ASAP. Thanks again,  Chzz  ►  22:59, 22 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I look forward to your (positive) answer. Happy holiday, — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:26, 23 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Have you had a chance to think about this yet?? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:21, 5 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
MSGJ, I certainly haven't forgotten about this; I am currently working on lots of other stuff - I hope to 'clear the decks' soon. I don't want to mess you around...please, rest-assured, I will respond further as soon as I have time. Thanks for your patience,  Chzz  ►  20:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hope I can get in line for the co-nom. :) GrooveDog (oh hai.) 01:04, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm pretty sure I'd support you if you accepted. -- Atama頭 16:11, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Ooh, can I co-nom? (That is, if MSGJ hasn't taken every word right out of my mouth... ;)) --Dylan620 (contribs, logs, review) 17:22, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

That's it guys, someone hold Chzz down, I'll tie them up, and we'll torture him until he agrees to run for adminship. ;P -- Ϫ 18:03, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Well, hopefully it won't come to that. Would you mind if I at least made a start on the nomination page? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 18:24, 11 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I tried really hard to clear down my outstanding stuff, and on 7th, I pretty much had [32] - 6 days later, and as you can see from this page, I seem to have a whole bunch of new things :-S I guess this is just the way of things. Aargh.  Chzz  ►  03:09, 13 October 2009 (UTC)  Chzz  ►  06:20, 19 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Poke, to stop the bot. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Gah, there is no escape! \o/
MSGJ, if you still wish to arm me with a mop and inflict me on the community, please go ahead and write it up; please give me a shout before transcluding though - but I don't anticipate messing you around any further; apologies for the delays - I hoped to clear things, and I have done so to a reasonable extent. Let's face it, my 'to do' list and talkpage is unlikely to ever be quiet... I don't suppose there is ever an optimum time for these things. I'm not sure about who wants to co-nom or whatever; it doesn't bother me. Thank you very much for your patience.  Chzz  ►  22:26, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I'm working on the nomination statement now. A few points:
  • I notice that you haven't set your gender in your preferences. Is this intentional? It's fine if you don't wish to divulge it, I'm just finding it a bit awkward not knowing which pronoun to use! I suppose I could use {{genderneutral}} as OlEnglish did ...
  • Unfortunately, the circumstances of your block will have to be explained. I know, it's ridiculous that a small incident right at the beginning of your editting career should have any significance. The way I have seen this tackled before, and how I suggest that you do it, is to ask yourself a question (as Question 4 after the compulsory questions) and then answer it. I think that the explanation you gave at [[Wikipedia talk:Edit filter] would be fine, and I doubt the incident will have much effect anyway.
  • I would be quite happy if someone would like to conominate, especially if they are able to comment in more detail about your activities in an area I am not familiar with. But I don't think it will make much difference to be honest; you'll sail through.
— Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:34, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

(outdent)

  • Gender - I like the air of mystery! Actually, it's because a) I like that Wikipedia editors can choose to remain anonymous if they wish, and b) To be honest, it's a bit of a laugh, as various people have made guesses both ways. If it's easier grammatically, you can go with either 'he' or 'she', I don't mind.
  • Block - OK, I will do that
  • Co-nom - if anyone reading this wishes to jump in, feel free

MSGJ - I'll add my bits and pieces ASAP, then. Once I think it's ready, should I transclude it myself, or shall I give you a shout?  Chzz  ►  20:20, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I've neutralised the gender, but I'm not convinced. It upsets the flow of the statement I think. I can transclude it yourself or I can do it, whichever you prefer. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:38, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
OK - and, if you prefer, just go with 'he' - It's really not a big deal; for the sake of the mystery, I won't confirm either way, but I'm not the type of person who is offended by people choosing to use 'he' for an 'unknown gender'.  Chzz  ►  20:44, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Peer review

Can you levae comments on the PR of Family Guy.--Pedro J. the rookie 19:22, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

if you do not mind can you also do the pr of lisa simpson.--Pedro J. the rookie 23:15, 20 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. As I expect you've seen, I left some comments on Wikipedia:Peer review/Family Guy/archive4.
Sorry, but I don't have time to do the peer review of the other, at this time; it will just have to sit in the queue, with all the others. Best of luck with it all,  Chzz  ►  17:27, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Epstein Eagle Mascot/Crest

Chzz,

Could you please add the following Eagle mascot image to the left side of the page (opposite the school image or reverse the order if you feel it is more appropriate for school to be on the left and the Eagel mascot crest/logo on right) near the history section of The Epstein School article as well as the text below:

Epstein_Eagle_Mascot_Crest_logo_wiki.jpg‎ (164 × 170 pixels, file size: 9 KB, MIME type: image/jpeg)

Please add the following text to the end of the history section:

The school's mascot is the Eagle, as represented by the Epstein Eagle crest.

Thanks Clou2epstein (talk) 01:02, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Talk:The_Epstein_School#Epstein_Eagle_Mascot.2FCrest  Chzz  ►  07:05, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


ReplyNot only is it ok...but it is prefered! Great idea. Thank you so much. I really appreciate it....so I bestow this barnstar upon you with my gratitude...:)

What a Brilliant Idea Barnstar
message Clou2epstein (talk) 16:28, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, Clou2epstein (talk) 16:28, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Characters of Smallville

(original question was asked on User talk:Bignole; copied here to clarify thread and keep it in one place  Chzz  ►  12:07, 21 October 2009 (UTC))[reply]

Howdy,

Pls see Talk:Characters_of_Smallville#Questions_re._fact_tags, cheers,  Chzz  ►  01:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S. I have another suggestion, regarding that article, I welcome your thoughts on the matter; regarding the opening sentence; Smallville is an American television series developed by writer/producers Alfred Gough and Miles Millar, and was initially broadcast by The WB. - I think that this could be improved; the very first sentence of any article is so critical, in explaining what it is all about. As an outsider, so to speak, I feel that I'd like to know what it is, from that first sentence - ie the genre, or something. The names of the writers/producers seems to me a bit less critical. Forgive me, because I don't know the programme. Considering the subject of the article, I would like to see something along the lines of "XXX is a ???(comedy/drama/sci-fi etc) US TV show with characters XXX, YYY and ZZZ" - or something along those lines.
Another small point; the lede should either be fully-referenced, or have no references at all - because, it should summarize, and thus all the info in the lede should be elaborated upon within the body; at present, the facts about "CW" are not explained within the body itself.
I hope that you will accept my suggestions as intended, ie constructive criticism. Best,  Chzz  ►  01:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


It would be kind of hard to just pick one genre to put in the lead sentence, given that the show is classified as an Action, Adventure, Science fiction, Drama TV show. If I put all of those in there, that would be rather clunky, hence why none were included. It could also be considered a fantasy show as well. As for the citation thing, where in this section (or anywhere on the page) does it say "all or nothing"? What I see is a guideline that says cite quotes, and anything that makes exceptional claims, but avoid redundant citation for things that are more of a generalized summary. So, since the info about the CW isn't talked about in this article's body (because it has not overall bearing on this article, it's simply noted so as not to create confusing as to why it would say "The WB and then the CW"), that's why it receives a citation in the lead, to help verify that two programs merged into one.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 01:49, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I understand the problems re. the first sentence, but I do still feel that some descriptive information about the genre would be better than the details currently, re. writers, etc. I'm looking for help here in FA's Characters of Carnivàle, Characters of Final Fantasy VIII and Characters of Kingdom Hearts - and I don't know. I'll think about it further.
I'll look at the rest ASAP  Chzz  ►  02:49, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but there is a difference between Kingdom of Hearts and Carnivale, and Superman. If I saw those two things I'd probably wonder what they were too, but when I see "based on Superman", it's kind of a given that it's probably going to be action oriented and adventure oriented. As for the pages for CoC, CoFFVIII, and CoKH, they have a lot of their own issues. I could never understand how articles on fiction could become featured with almost no real world coverage on the individual characters they discuss. If you look at Smallville, every character on there (with exception to the characters that have individual pages, as they were trimmed to basic info to save space) has real world information about character creation/development/etc. It may be that those pages were promoted to featured status 1 and 2 years ago, and a lot has changed since then.  BIGNOLE  (Contact me) 03:42, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Point taken, and I shall give it some thought; I tend to look for FAs for ideas, but I know what you mean. I'll get back to you. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  03:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Kuddos

Who can I write to tell them how great you are? I hope there's a place to vote for you to get an award for best Wiki Service! Darkbluesun (talk) 19:53, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much - I'm glad I could help. For your info (for the future), we have barnstars, that you can use to say thanks to other users - in this case, though, your message above is just fine, no need for a barnstar :-) Good luck with the article, and do let me know if you need help in the future.  Chzz  ►  23:55, 21 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hello

hello.. this is tcv —Preceding unsigned comment added by Horsebrutality (talk • contribs) 00:57, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This is a test reply  Chzz  ►  01:02, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Replied

{{tb}}|Horsebrutality Horsebrutality (talk) 01:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)  Done[reply]

Barnstar for the most reliable helper in IRC

The Helping Hand Barnstar
Your help has been invaluable. You have really much knowledge, and you use your knowledge to help other people. Thank you - you have helped me and other people so many times that it is a must to FINALLY give you this barnstar.  Ilyushka88  talk  10:58, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Hello Chzz, Thank you a lot for page Ksenia Milicevic. I will try to work on references. Best regards Jeanbarousse —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeanbarousse (talk • contribs) 16:10, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noemí_Carrión

Hi, I asked you to redirect Naymi to Noemi Carrion and Noemi Carrion with accents.

Now when I click here:

Noemí Carrión - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia10 Aug 2009 ... Noemí Carrión is a Spanish singer (soprano and mezzo soprano), songwriter, arranger, recording artiste, producer and actress, who originates ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noemí_Carrión - Cached - Similar

It will not load but says:

The previous page is sending you to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noem%C3%83%C2%AD_Carri%C3%83%C2%B3n. 

If you do not want to visit that page, you can return to the previous page.

So for some reason, after your redirection, one can only access Noemi Carrion within Wiki.

Any ideas?

[[[User:Zanze123|Zanze123]] (talk) 20:40, 22 October 2009 (UTC)][reply]

  • Please can you fix your signature again
  • What you actually asked for was, Can you redirect those who type Naymi to Noemi Carrion. - I didn't do that, because Noemi Carrion is a redirect to Noemí Carrión, as you can see here - hence it would create a double-redirect, which we avoid. Instead, I created the redirect from Naymi to Noemí Carrión, here.

So, what exactly is the problem; what are you clicking, on which page?  Chzz  ►  21:15, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks the problem is that most people will type Noemi Carrion not Noemí Carrión because this article is in English and designed for English speakers who do not have those accents on their keyboards, and dont know about accents. So in fact, Noemí Carrión needs to redirect to Noemi Carrion and Naymi needs to redirect to Noemi Carrion. That is way beyond me. Could you help?! Once this is all done we will work on the Spanish version of the article for the Spanish wiki. Thanks again [[[User:Zanze123|Zanze123]] (talk) 11:50, 23 October 2009 (UTC)][reply]

I think it's fine, actually; the live article is correctly titled Noemí Carrión, with the accents, which is, after all, the 'correct' name. Users typing Noemi Carrion and users typing Naymi will be redirected to that page. Seems OK to me?  Chzz  ►  17:04, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Arthur Adams

Nice to meet you Chaz! Aw, you don't know what you did by visiting me! I saw your userpage, and found out you know stuff!!! Whoopie!! (I don't mean, just stuff, but computer stuff!) The thing I really lack (like even coming close to understanding what the f*@>! it takes to understand the inner workings of Wikimedia Commons. I sometimes have some real problems when seeking help with things like that. Can I ask you in a pinch? I'm stretching thin the few people I know (after close to 3 years full time here editing).

Regarding the photo, really, thanks! About a year ago, I got so sick of seeing all the articles without photos (on biographies of musicians) that now I spend half my time on that, and got a list of at least a hundred of the couple hundred uploads (both before when I used an IP address and now). Really, see my userpage for some of the names and photos! If you need help scouring Flickr, I'm good at begging for photos. Oh! By the way, the photographer of the pic you like is one of the most talented. Could I beg a favor now, and before deleting his name, Mykal Burns from the caption, would it be OK to leave his attribution on the photo caption as well till the article is ready to be checked for GA status? Some new photographers (like him) get nervous and even give up prior book deals for money and instead give up their copyright, so I try to give them some exposure and respect for doing so. Could we do that at least while the article is still in the start phase? It would mean a lot. Thanks for the nice note, too! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 23:21, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Yes, of course, you can ask for help with anything, at any time. I can find the answers to most stuff; that's what I mostly do - help other users.
  • Re. photo - my first thought was, that if Burns is notable - ie he has been in some newspapers or something - then we could write a stub article on him, and it would be appropriate to link to it. From a quick look in Google News [33], that might not be possible though. So... well, you could change the caption to say something like "Arthur Adams live at Sunset Junction festival, Los Angeles, California, taken by photographer Mykal Burnson 23 August 2008". That would possibly be challenged, and therefore, as unreferenced to a reliable source, it could be removed by another user - but, then again, it might not be removed - I suggest, per WP:BOLD, you give it a try. Can't see any harm in it.  Chzz  ►  23:44, 22 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
There are a few notable photographers whose work I use; there are more, like Burns, and a couple others who surely deserve pages, but till then, I have a real fight with some editors just to keep the photographers' names in the captions. It's important to them, since often it's their first or second time I've asked, and giving up their work for free is always an issue that makes them uneasy. I know we all worry at GA or FA review time, and would understand if the name was removed in the hope that it would make a difference, but for now, can we agree to allow names to remain in the captions, at least through B ranking? I promise to hide their names in the captions as best as I can! :) Thanks for being a helping person to those of us (no matter how many years we've been here) --I still wonder if I'm advanced enough to answer new folks on the new people's help desk after all these years! --Leahtwosaints (talk) 22:48, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Because you're awesome

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
For helping newcomers on IRC (which can be one of the most laborious processes you can find here sometimes), I award you this barnstar. Keep up the great work! Master of Puppets 06:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Before I move Forward

Chzz, You have been so helpful. I am going to be requesting translation of the page in Hebrew to create a page on the Israel wiki page. First, before I move forward, do you have any suggestions or reccommendations? Second, once I have the text in Hebrew, I can place it on the talk page you created for me. Is that what you would like?

Lastly I still have a Hebrew graphic that I also would like to add. I will get back to you on that soon. Clou2epstein (talk) 17:24, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you Chzz,

I Messed-Up Please Help

I went to upload the bilingual graphic that I told you about and accidentally uploaded the wrong version...and was unable to find how to delete it. I meant to upload the second version I uploaded. Can the first version be deleted and can the second one be added to the bilingual curriculum section of The Epstein School page?

This is the file to delete:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Celebration_of_the_Arts-bilingual_curriculum-October_2009-wiki-300px.png


With My Apologies,

Clou2epstein (talk) 18:24, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Re. translation - it would be best to do this on the Hebrew Wikipedia, and the person translating it should have their own account; it's important not to share accounts.
Probably the best thing for them to do is to create a user subpage on the Hebrew Wikipedia, and for them and you to work on it there. To do that, they could log into the Hebrew Wikipedia, and work on the translation there. Once it is ready to go live, it could be moved to their live area. I can't really help much with that side of things, because I don't speak the language - you'd need to get help on that wiki instead. It should be easy enough; the only really important thing is, that on the discussion page of the article (one Hebrew Wikipedia), you need to state that it has been translated from the English version, and provide a link, which should be in the format [[w:en:The Epstein School]] - this is to comply with the licence requirements, ie it's fine to copy Wiki material, but you have to give credit to the authors - a link back to the original, which has the history iof editors, fulfills that requirement.
Re. file - I see that you've tagged it for speedy deletion, and that should be fine; it might help if you edit it (File:Celebration of the Arts-bilingual curriculum-October 2009-wiki-300px.png), and give the reason, in place of the current text which says "reason for deletion" - just say why you want it deleting, and that should be fine.
Correction: Sorry, I see now that you've actually uploaded the newer version - that will replace the older one, so there is no need to delete the older file; it's fine. I'll add it to the article.
I hope that answers; if you have any further questions, please ask. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  17:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Reply Ok...thank you Chzz for the translation guidance and the image assistance. I see that it is up...looks great. I was not sure if I handled the pic error correctly; I thought the error image needed to be deleted and replaced with new. You have been a fabulous resource and very helpful guide. I can't thank you enough. I have now requested re-evaluation/review and believe that the improvements made to the page are significant. With my continued appreciation for your assistance. Clou2epstein (talk) 17:36, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Follow-up Actually I just looked again and noticed that the second image listed is now the same as the first. the second image uploaded was a jpg ...not a png. It was the png that is the wrong version the jpg was the correct one. and the png is on the web page. Maybe I did do something wrong? Please advise. Clou2epstein (talk) 17:46, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


follow-up to my follow-up Looking at it again, while the image is labeled the same it doesn't appear to be the same...I think it is fine and there is not an issue. My apologies. Disregard prior follow-up unless you think there is an issue I am unaware of. Clou2epstein (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Clou2epstein (talk) 17:54, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

OK then - ignoring :-)
Both PNG and JPEG are fine; generally, upload the highest possible version - the mediawiki software takes care of thumbnailing etc. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  18:06, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ksenia

Thank you very much for your help on page Ksenia Milicevic,for your time and energy and your talent. Best regards. --Jeanbarousse (talk) 18:18, 23 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More help from the expert

Hi Chzz, I think I opened a can of worms with my attempts to bring some uniformity to the capitalization on several religion articles. I made some changes to one article, and apparently raised the ire of an editor who must have been the caretaker (wars have been fought over religion). He probably went to my contributions page, and saw that I had done many edits to the article Johannes Maas (missionary), a religious leader whose career I have followed in my travels in India and Thailand. He previously had made no edits to the article. He then nominated the article for deletion, and apparently got 2 of his co-editors to post delete notes (who also made no edits to the Maas article and probably never looked at it before). This looks like a revenge move. I am not sure how the process works, but two others besides me voted to keep. I would like to see the article stay. I will continue to add more notability items as I can discover them. There are many other articles about purely local religious leaders which have remained for years. Would you please look into the matter, and if you could recommend a keep, I would appreciate it. Thanks again for being my favorite editor, and for being there when I need your sage advice. R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 07:30, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, unfortunately, this does happen a lot - see WP:POINT. Having said that, I advise you to be very careful about WP:CANVASS - please read that with care.
The best way to deal with it is to simply fix up the article - if that is possible, and if the person is indeed notable, it should be easy enough to establish that by adding a few good references - though with this type of article you might need to do some digging. Books would be ideal.
It looks to me like it will be OK, but try to use policy-based reasoning; "The subject meets the notability guidelines because there is significant coverage in these reliable sources; [1] [2] [3]" - that sort of thing.
I think it should be OK, regardless; if there is no clear consensus, then it defaults to a 'keep'.
Even if it is deleted, it doesn't matter - it could be restored to user space and fixed up later - in other words, don't panic, there is no deadline.
Try not to take it personally, and instead just consider it another opportunity to improve Wikipedia; let me know if I can help further. I won't actually dive into the debate itself, for the reasons mentioned. Keep up the good work. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  17:40, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, Chzz. You are the only one with whom I discussed this. Since there is no consensus, the article might stay. Possibly there might be others who see the delete notice and vote to keep. Thanks again for your help. You are the best. R/T-รัก-ไทย (talk) 00:05, 25 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]


image issue

Chzz,

Someone placed a permission deletion template on the image: I thought I had given permission when I set it up to begin with...but anyway, I did send an email anyway to re-confirm. Can you please remove the template? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Celebration_of_the_Arts-bilingual_curriculum-October_2009-wiki-300px.png

Thanks,

Clou2epstein (talk) 00:35, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I will mark it as 'awaiting an email'. Please could you tell me either the email address that it was sent from, or the subject line? Then I can try to track it down. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  00:39, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Subject line is: permission granted

Thanks Clou2epstein (talk) 01:36, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry - also - do you know which address it was sent to - was it permissions-commons@wikimedia.org?  Chzz  ►  02:01, 26 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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