User talk:212.200.205.163

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Crusio (talk) 20:00, 16 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks

Appreciate very much your kind words and support on the ANI. Thanks again. --Ludvikus (talk) 13:40, 30 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

October 2009

You wrote on User talk:Ludvikus "i would not make such generalizations about administrators, nor any other group of people. i did encounter a few decent ones, who base their decisions on reason, and not emotion."[1]

You wrote that in the past tense, which indicates that you were (but are no longer) an active editor. Have you ever had a user account on Wikipedia? If yes what was the name of that account? -- PBS (talk) 12:47, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

what is this inquiry based on? you seem to not understand the sentence that i wrote. also, you may want to see this diff where i explain that i am editing wikipedia since 2003. [2] 212.200.205.163 (talk) 13:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Blocked

This account is blocked for disruptive editing. The pattern of editing closely matches indef blocked Ludvikus (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki). This account is likely a sock puppet, or it could be somebody with an agenda for POV pushing on Wikipedia who is indistinguishable from Ludivikus. Either way, the necessary response is the same. The continued involvement of this editor is harmful to the endeavor of writing an encyclopedia. Therefore, the account must be blocked. Administrators, please do not unblock without contacting me first. Jehochman ^Talk 12:54, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who declined the request. Other administrators may also review this block, but should not override the decision without good reason (see the blocking policy).

212.200.205.163 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

nonsenical "reason" for block. do the SPI if you think i'm a sock. no diffs of disruptive editing provided. no proof of WP:SOCK. no nothing.

Decline reason:

Per conversation below and general churlishness. -- Daniel Case (talk) 14:43, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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also, please point out to one or two diffs of my disruptive editing. don't talk out of thin air. 212.200.205.163 (talk) 13:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In determining the block I viewed your contribution history and saw that in total your contributions consisted of POV pushing, edit warring and trouble making.[3][4][5][6][7] Why did you jump in and ask for Ludvikus to be unblocked (even though he had not requested unblocking)?[8] Why did you suddenly attack Moreschi?[9] These are not sensible things for a totally uninvolved editor (as you claim to be) to do? Jehochman ^Talk 13:12, 31 October 2009 (UTC) (diffs added after the user's comments below, due to edit conflicts)[reply]

I can ask you same question, why did you jump in to block me and help Moreschi? are you sock of Moreschi? As for the POV pushing accusation, can you provide diffs? Also, what is a threshold for blocking. Subjective "POV pushing", or objective disruption? 212.200.205.163 (talk) 13:15, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

See reductio ad absurdum#Legal and everyday use. As for criteria, had there been any substantial evidence of useful contributions from your account, I might not have blocked. I checked a selection of your contributions from start to finish and determined that you qualify as a disruption-only account. Combined with the fact that you appear to be a sock puppet account (there is no way to determine that beyond any doubt), the appropriate response was to prevent further editing. Jehochman ^Talk 13:24, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

nonsense. you "checked a selection of your contributions" and yet don't provide a single diff. if Ludvikus is one country and i am another, can we be sock puppets. i assume he is NOT from serbia, and that SPI will show how seriously wrong you are. 212.200.205.163 (talk) 13:27, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It does not matter if you are the same person, or if you are some other person carrying forward the same agenda of disrupting Wikipedia as Ludvikus. You are blocked for your edits. The appearance of a relationship to Ludvikus is an aggrevating factor, but it is not necessary to sustain the block. Jehochman ^Talk 13:34, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

o.k. so you redraw SP accusations from above, and now i can only focus on your disruption accusations and newly supplied diffs above. is that right? i'll reply to them in a minute, just to see what you linked to. 212.200.205.163 (talk) 13:36, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i see you have no case here. diffs speak for themselves, and i don't need to defend them. no disruption, but normal wiki editing process that involves discussion on talk pages. i think you exercised a very unfortunate judgment. 212.200.205.163 (talk) 13:38, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I REQUEST WP:SPI BE DONE! that will expose the bad faith block of User:Jehochman 212.200.205.163 (talk) 13:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

CheckUser is not magic pixie dust, it cannot be used to prove innocence. Jehochman ^Talk 13:12, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

but it CAN be used to prove obvious lack of guilt. I AM NOT A SOCK. don't be afraid to find that out. do the SPI. 212.200.205.163 (talk) 13:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

another request

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will someone please explain how my edits were disruptive? also, i want SPI done on my IP to clear the sock puppetry accusations.

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Chummer, Checkuser cannot prove negatives, hence "clear my name" checks are never done. -Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Stop... at a WHAMMY!!)} 18:04, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i don't understand. if two IP's come from different countries, how can they be sock puppets? 212.200.205.163 (talk) 18:06, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

For all we know, one of them's being spoofed or hosting a TOR node. -Jeremy ^{(v^_^v Stop... at a WHAMMY!!)} 18:11, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

i learn something new every day! i'll read about that. anyhow, i think that is absurd assumption, because if i was able to do something like that, wouldn't i be able to simply switch IP whenever i want, and don't bother with this block here? 212.200.205.163 (talk) 18:17, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia blocks TOR nodes, so your argument does not stand. 212.200.205.163 (talk) 18:26, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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