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The article is using theism for two different conclusions when it could be better expressed using agnostic-theism and gnostic-theism.

Al-Ikhlas In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful

Say: He is Allah, the One! (1) Allah, the eternally Besought of all! (2) He begetteth not nor was begotten. (3) And there is none comparable unto Him. (4)

سُوۡرَةُ الإخلاص بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ

قُلۡ هُوَ ٱللَّهُ أَحَدٌ (١) ٱللَّهُ ٱلصَّمَدُ (٢) لَمۡ يَلِدۡ وَلَمۡ يُولَدۡ (٣) وَلَمۡ يَكُن لَّهُ ۥ ڪُفُوًا أَحَدُۢ (٤)

Al-Ikhlas Au nom d'Allah, le Tout Miséricordieux, le Très Miséricordieux

Dis: C'est Lui Allah, l'Unique! (1) Allah, le imploré éternellement de tous! (2) Il a engendré ni ne fut engendré. (3) Et il n'en est pas comparable à Lui. (4)

"Conclusions reached include: "God does not exist" (strong atheism); "God almost certainly does not exist"[16] (de facto atheism); "no one knows whether God exists" (agnosticism); "God exists, but this cannot be proven or disproven" (theism); and "God exists and this can be proven" (theism). There are numerous variations on these positions."

It's using theism for two completely different views.

"It is often put forth as a middle ground between theism and atheism,[1] though it is not a religious declaration in itself and the terms are not mutually exclusive. Agnosticism refers to knowledge, while atheism and theism refer to belief" - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnosticism

So with that it should be:

"Conclusions reached include: "God does not exist" (strong atheism); "God almost certainly does not exist"[16] (de facto atheism); "no one knows whether God exists" (agnosticism); "God exists, but this cannot be proven or disproven" (agnostic-theism); and "God exists and this can be proven" (gnostic-theism). There are numerous variations on these positions."

Anthropomorphism (Xenophanes' mockery)

A quick note ... that I have (awkwardly:) responded to the insertion of mention of Xenophanes' mockery of the concept as the 1st sentence of an existing 1st paragraph on the concept by pulling it up into a new first "paragraph" (while it is determined how to work this into the topic).Why? Because a disjointed (unflowed) criticism of a conception should certainly not just be jammed onto the front of an existing first paragraph.

In general, there is a (understandable) tendency to be lazy about sentence flow when inserting information—but inserting a critical perspective at the beginning of a topic could be perceived as rhetorical.

I.E., Let us ponder how this information/perspective/commentary should be worked into the section. Proofreader77 (talk) 19:39, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Follow-up: Removed because of topic (see below). Proofreader77 (talk) 20:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE "Scientific positions regarding God"

Whether "Anthropomorphism" should be a subtopic of "Scientific positions regarding God," is an interesting question ... but at this time it is, and the discussion is (apparently) covering "scientific" sources. Since Xenophanes' mockery is philosophy rather than science, I have removed it at this time. Proofreader77 (talk) 20:48, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Quick question... (note: "Dumnezeu" redirects here)

[EDIT TO ADD NOTE TO TOPIC TITLE] Proofreader77 (talk) 16:43, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

What religion/language is the name Dumnezeu out of?

I started typing in random letters in Google, and that popped up.

Decided to Wikipedia it, because as we know, everything is in Wikipedia, and it redirected here...without any other mention of the name.

So...what's it out of? Fruckert (talk) 07:23, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

NOTE: Googling it would give you the link to the ro.wikipedia entry (Romanian language Wikipedia) ... "Dumnezeu" is (apparently) the Romanian word for God. Google translate will give you a sufficient English language translation of that article to answer the question.

When you searched with "Go" in en.wikipedia (this, English Wikipedia) ... you arrived at this article because there is a "redirect" of that word to this page. (See top of article page underneath "God"). The person who created the "redirect" did so because it is the Romanian word for God. NOTE: If you click the small word "Dumnezeu" that will take you to the redirected page. If you check the history of that page, you will see that the previous version was not a redirect, but a few words saying it's the Romanian word for God. The reason it was changed to a redirect (which can be confusing) rather than the more understandable short sentence is a somewhat complicated matter. BOTTOM LINE: This (en.Wikipedia) is the English language Wikipedia. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a dictionary and certainly not a "foreign language" dictionary :) ... Which is to say that there shouldn't be article about the Romanian word for God in the English language Wikipedia. LOL (So complicated) Proofreader77 (talk) 16:38, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

--Ggggchen (talk) 02:25, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Correction under NAMES OF GOD. Elohim is used incorrectly.

Elohim does not mean strong or strengh rather its use acts as an ordinary plural of the word Eloah (אלוה), and refers to the polytheistic notion of multiple gods (for example, Exodus 20:3, "Thou shalt have no other gods before me.").

This may reflect the use of the word "Elohim" found in the late Bronze Age texts of Canaanite Ugarit, where Elohim ('lhm) denoted the entire Canaanite pantheon (the family of El אל, the patriarchal creator god)El ats as an ordinary singular word for one. GOD is ONE THEE ONE AND ONLY. Thee all mighty GOD. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.212.58.26 (talk) 03:57, 6 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Elohim is also used to show the trinity of God (God, Jesus, Holy Spirit), which is why it is plural when describing God. Αδελφος (talk) 14:29, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Gentlemen/Ladies, please take into consideration that there are millions of opinions on how the Bible should be interpreted, what certain things mean, and we could go on forever fighting over the words. This is why Wikipedia has policies for inclusion, so unless what is said here is something that will reflect notable, reliable, neutral, verifiable, third-party citations continuing along this train of thought will be useless from an encyclopedic perspective, regardless of what insights it may provide you personally. Wikipedia is not a forum, so postulation and debate are not really going to be fruitful. Peter Deer (talk) 19:34, 20 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Except that those were not OR, you know. Those are existing sourceable interpretations of Elohim, as anyone can prove by searching Google Books or just reading the Wiki article Elohim. It is wrong to mention only one interpretation, and probably not one of the most prominent ones, in this article; I'm inclined to think that one should either mention at least the principal ones or delete mention of the whole business altogether.--91.148.159.4 (talk) 21:19, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology and usage

You also need to mention that the term God can be derived from to the term Goda of the (Y)Ezids (X = G in the Kurdish spelling). This group has a lot of similairities with Judaism and have probably the same background. Today Kurds as wel as Persians name the lord als Goda. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freedomwrighter (talk • contribs) 17:25, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

bb —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.192.13 (talk) 23:06, 23 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

God as a metaphor

For the atheist or the soft believer; the term "God" is a metaphor for nature.

God Metaphor (talk) 00:26, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More Info Al-Fatiha In the name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful (1)

Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds, (2) The Beneficent, the Merciful. (3) Owner of the Day of Judgment, (4) Thee (alone) we worship; Thee (alone) we ask for help. (5) Show us the straight path, (6) The path of those whom Thou hast favoured. Not (the path) of those who earn Thine anger nor of those who go astray. (7) (Translation in arabic)

سُوۡرَةُ الفَاتِحَة بِسۡمِ ٱللهِ ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ (١)

ٱلۡحَمۡدُ لِلَّهِ رَبِّ ٱلۡعَـٰلَمِينَ (٢) ٱلرَّحۡمَـٰنِ ٱلرَّحِيمِ (٣) مَـٰلِكِ يَوۡمِ ٱلدِّينِ (٤) إِيَّاكَ نَعۡبُدُ وَإِيَّاكَ نَسۡتَعِينُ (٥) ٱهۡدِنَا ٱلصِّرَٲطَ ٱلۡمُسۡتَقِيمَ (٦) صِرَٲطَ ٱلَّذِينَ أَنۡعَمۡتَ عَلَيۡهِمۡ غَيۡرِ ٱلۡمَغۡضُوبِ عَلَيۡهِمۡ وَلَا ٱلضَّآلِّينَ (٧) (Translation in french)

Al-Fatiha Au nom d'Allah, le Tout Miséricordieux, le Très Miséricordieux (1)

Louange à Allah, Seigneur de l'univers, (2) Le Tout Miséricordieux, le Très Miséricordieux. (3) Propriétaire du Jour du Jugement, (4) Toi (seul) que nous adorons, Toi (seul) dont nous implorons secours. (5) Montrez-nous le droit chemin, (6) Le chemin de ceux que Tu as favorisé. Pas (le chemin) de ceux qui gagnent Ta colère ni de ceux qui s'égarent. (7) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mourt4444 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 29 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]