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Supersonic?

Could this exceed Mach 1 in a dive if burner was used?

~ ~ Paul Murphy ~ ~

According to the F-94B "dash one" (the pilot's Flight Manual, dated 1 May 1951), the 'B model had a "limit of .80 Mach number or 505 knots IAS, whichever is less." Like so many other contemporary designs, the airframe physically could exceed Mach 1, but was limited to a lower speed (in this case, the manual goes on to explain, severe controllability issues along with extreme structural stresses would be encountered above the limiting speed). The F-94C (information from its "dash one," dated 1 February 1957) had only a limit indicated airspeed of 550 knots, without a limiting Mach number. The manual states, "This airplane is capable of supersonic speeds in dives at the higher altitudes." Some of the same controllability issues existed but were addressed as acceptable (it advises, even, that these flight regimes should be investigated by the flight crews), with each issue addressed in turn as certain speed ranges were transitioned through (control surface "buzz," "spoiler jump," "rudder shift," "roll-off," etc.). Structural distress up to the higher limit airspeed of 550 KIAS was no longer an issue.192.100.70.210 (talk) 01:57, 15 December 2007 (UTC)CBsHellcat[reply]

Tony LeVier mentions in his autobiography, "Pilot", in some detail (Chapter 15), that the F-94C could go supersonic. Hard to believe but I figure that he was there and I wasn't. I met him once at a lecture he gave at NASM and he did not sound like the type to tell "fish stories" in public. --Phyllis1753 (talk) 14:33, 8 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Folks,

If anyone is interested in adding to the article, the F-94 was known by its pilots and ground crews as the aircraft "with a TV and overdrive."

Jackehammond (talk) 13:03, 3 December 2009 (UTC)Jack E. Hammond Indiana, USA[reply]

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Armament on F-94

Folks,

The entry indicates that the F-94C had both .50 caliber machine guns and the 2.75 inch rockets. Is there anyway to change that so to avoid confusion?

Jackehammond (talk) 19:57, 24 November 2009 (UTC).[reply]

The C version had no gun armament, relying solely on 24 2.75-in. Folding Fin Air Rockets (FFARs) in the nose and 24 FFARs in two wing pods. FWiW Bzuk (talk) 21:42, 24 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Bzuk,

Yes, that is what I know. But I don't want to change the article, as it is so easy to step on some toes or the rules it seems. Also, a tidbit if anyone wishes to change the article. The F-94C 70mm rocket launcher was the most accurate of all the fighters fitted with the Might Mouse rockets in the 1950s. The reason being the tubes were closed at the rear end (ie they had to make the launch tubes heavier as result) and the launch speed was about double of the other USAF and USN fighters fitted with 70mm tubes open at both ends -- eg the F-86D. If need I can give the reference to a 1970s issue of "Aviation & Marine" an Italian publication also printed in English and sold world wide which was absorbed by the firm that became Jane's.

Again, thank you for your reply.

Jackehammond (talk) 12:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)Jack E. Hammond/USA Indiana[reply]

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