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Um, why is there a quotes section? Isn't this what Wikiquote was made for? Larry Sanger, co-founder of Wikipedia agrees with me in a post he made to the Talk:DrinkOrDie page. Here's his quote:

  • What is the purpose of the "quotations" section?
--Larry Sanger

Therefore I'm going to move the quotes to Wikiquote. --Hoovernj 19:45, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)


Just look at the external links for the Hannity page - basically his homepage, some biographical information and a bunch of pages that bash him. Take this article at face value.

Calmypal: it's a hoax. it's an April Fool's joke. -- Nunh-huh 22:01, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Sean Hannity apologising to Bill Clinton? Definitely not a joke. - Woodrow 22:02, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • You should have listened to the whole program. It was a joke. It was a Bill Clinton impersonator, by the way. - Nunh-huh 22:03, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Even if he ought to, it's still a joke. April Fool's is well and good, but in articles it's going too far. Meelar 22:04, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

However did they find an Al Gore impersonator? How is it that the one time I walk away from the radio, he says it's a joke? Oh well, my apologies. - Woodrow 22:10, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

  • Al Gore & Bill Clinton were done by the same guy. He's pretty good. I can never remember impersonator's names though. -Nunh-huh 22:18, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Is the WSB link about WSB-FM, WSB-AM, or WSB-TV?? 66.245.66.197 14:10, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I'd have to make a total guess and say AM, because those are usually the talk stations (FM being music, dunno bout TV). Ilyanep 15:40, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Speaking of WSB, it is very misleading to say that "Hannity replaced Boortz and Savage on their flagship stations". It gives the implication that Boortz was replaced after his syndication. It is true that Savage was replaced by Hannity recently. Hannity did a local show in Atlanta like 10 years ago and Boortz has been on WSB since like 95. Whoever wrote this article is either an idiot or willfully lying.

Boortz is a friend of Hannity and they appear on each other's shows all the time.

Hold on one second (wait*100)

Are these quotes absolutely neccesary...there are no quotes on Michael Savage or many other radio hosts...(plus, see argument on Talk:FOX News). Ilyanep

Of course the quotes are necesary

Duh. He's a paid speaker, so of course it's necesary to know some of the things he says. I'm sorry if they make him look bad but unfortunately he said them. If you want to add quotes where he says something you feel makes him look good then feel free and add them. And by the way there are indeed quotes for Michael Savage, I should know, I added them myself.

  • Quickly converts to Michael Savage fan*. Fine...I'll do some of my own research. Ilyanep 01:32, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)

You're a Michael Savage fan???? That is absolutely disgusting. He is a fascist. How can any sane person justify the person who said "Instead of putting joysticks, I would have liked to have seen dynamite put in their orifices."

You're more of a fascist

Please dePoliticize this

We don't post pictures of historical figures in the bathroom. Neither do we need to post all quotes taken out of context with intent to defame. Though these quotes, and these photos, exist, it is unnecessary to post them.

Please, someone depoliticize this.

Wait. It is unnecesary to post them? What the hell is this? This man speaks for a fucking living, it's his job to say things. Of course it's important to know what he says, I'm sorry if they make him look bad. If you don't like it find some other quotes you do like, go for it, I won't stop you. What the fuck are you so interested in protecting Hannity for? Especially when on his show he feels free to attack people all the time. I'm sorry if you can't deal with these quotes, but as a man whose job it is to babble its extremely important for people to know what he says. And use your handle next time, it gives you at least a shred of credibility. StoptheBus18 14:41, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The quotes are too much

One or two quotes might be good for this article, but the excessive amount of quotations here (especially as they're one-liners, almost certainly out of context) really ought to be removed, maybe to Wikiquote. Especially with the article as brief as it is, the list of quotations just isn't appropriate. That's my opinion. Jwrosenzweig 21:36, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

A number of people here said the quotes are out of place, and I agree, so am removing them. Only supporter of keeping them here on this talk page swears at people and gleefully says they make the guy look like an idiot, so I think it's safe to say they aren;t hear as encyclopedic content. Add encyclopeia-style information on controversy and things he said and responses and so forth if you like, but not a bunch of random uninteresting quotes. DreamGuy 02:19, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)

I'm restoring the quotes section. Many biographical articles contain quotes sections, some longer than this one. If the article is brief in comparison, the solution to that particular issue is to expand the article, not to delete the section. If anyone has problems with particular quotes we can discuss candidates for removal, but I object to removing the entire section on such a flimsy basis. I apologize for not chiming in on this debate sooner, as I've been busy (see Sollog, for example) and this didn't pop up onto my radar until now, otherwise I would have objected sooner. Gamaliel 02:37, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I haven't seen any biographical articles yet with quotes section, but of course that doesn't necessarily mean anything. I would hope that any that do exist would have quotes that are much more interesting and notable than these. Do you have a recommended article with good quotes that I can take a look at to see one where their inclusion still looks like an encyclopedia entry? I am having a difficult time imagining how that would work... As far as the revert goes, so far on the comments page the people thinking the quotes should stay are outnumbered by people how think they should go, which should count for something. DreamGuy

I wouldn't say far outnumbered as I'm not counting unsigned drive-by anon comments; without those it seems to be 3-2, roughly even. Regardless, you're right, it should count for something, but what should also count is what goes on in other articles on Wikipedia - after all, we don't have seperate rules for each article.

Some examples: Arnold Schwarzenegger has a good (if a little too hagiographic) quotes section. Ann Coulter has a good quotes section that is the product of a talk page debate where we achived consensus about which ones should stay and which ones should be dumped. I don't like the section on Bill Clinton because it doesn't have sources for any of the quotes, but I'm not going to chop it out because of that. Gamaliel 06:41, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I note that those other quote sections are also somewhat controversial on the page discussions (and I personally think they are a bad idea even if some people thought they were good), but at least there some of them try for famous quotes or interesting ones, this article just has a bunch of random yawners. If Hannity hasn't said anything particularly notable for the exact quote, then it seems rather pointless to list random things he said just for the sake of having a quote section. DreamGuy 18:49, Dec 20, 2004 (UTC)
I don't think that the quotes should be deleted from Wiki - but they should be moved to Wikiquotes, which is specifically designed to hold them. One or two quotes are fine, but this is a long list of them. -Willmcw 20:16, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

This is hardly that long, there are only seven quotes. If one or two are fine, why delete the whole list? I have no problem reducing the list, but I strongly object to its wholesale removal. Gamaliel 21:56, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

OK, so I've cut it down to two quotes, which are two more than the article on William Shakespeare has. -Willmcw 22:17, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
What's the relevance of the number of quotes in Shakespeare's article? If there are only 2 quotes there, perhaps we should collaborate on a mini-project to expand that section. There is no arbitrary cap on quotes. Gamaliel 22:31, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
The relevence is that Hannity is probably considered to be less quotable than Shakespeare. We already have a collaboration - it's called wikiquote. Regarding the quotes on the Hannity page, how do they expand or improve a reader's knowledge of Hannity? They are not provided in any context or as support for any particular point. They are just a list of random, outrageous, or witty things he's said. Why have them at all in this article, as opposed to the (now) existing content on Wikiquote? If they are important, let's work them into the text. Such as, "Hannity has called for his listeners to pray for the reelection of Bush" or "Hannity criticizes advocates of the separation of church and state, ..." Are these his big issues? How does the Cohen quote fit into anything? -Cheers, -Willmcw 22:45, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

The quotes are pretty pointless and not unique enough to really merit their presence. I'm going to pare them down. --Holdek 08:11, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Cutting them down to one is just silly. They've already been cut down from seven. Four is a perfectly acceptable amount. Gamaliel 17:49, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I agree. Though I have complained about seven quotes, I do not have a problem with five or fewer. Even if the number were cut to one, the one that Holdek chose was more of a promotional catchphrase than a proper quotation. -Willmcw 00:05, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
No, I disagree. I feel these quotes belong in Wikiquote, unless they are unique to the person. There really isn't any reason to have these in Hannity's main page, as they don't really convey any identifying information about the topic (Hannity as an individual). The only quote that seems like a unique Hannity quote is the "All we ask..." one. --Holdek 21:39, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
"Unique to the person?" What does that mean? Are you saying that these quotes were made by others and Hannity just repeated them? If fo, then I think you're wrong. Whereas the "all we ask..." is not a quote but a catchphrase, repeated several times a day, and possibly written by someone else. (Who is the "we" anyway?) While the quotes may not illuminate the Hannity the man, they do help characterize Hannity the commentator. Please don't just revert. -Willmcw 22:28, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
What I mean is, the "All we ask" quote is at least something particular to Sean Hannity. I really don't find anything spectacular about the other quotes. They don't really tell us anything about who Sean Hannity is (unique views), as they are pretty much generalized conservative quotes. --Holdek 01:21, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
If you have some non-"generalized" quotes to replace the ones we have, feel free to insert them, but we'd like to keep the ones we have until then. Gamaliel 07:46, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Real name

I can't find a source for it now, but I could've sworn I read somewhere once that his birth name is David and that he's only used Sean since he got involved with radio. I also think that came up once when he had some woman on his television show who was arguing with him, and she called him "David" in order to tick him off, after which he said that people only use his real name to cheap shot him when they can't think of anything else to say. Granted, I am in no way a fan of this guy, so I don't know a whole lot about him, but I'm almost certain I've heard that before. Anyone know anything about that? Beginning 14:05, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC)

I don't know, his son is named Sean, but it doesn't say he's Jr. Everyking 15:58, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)

I agree, this page needs to be re-written

This is quite obviously a case of selective quoting with an intent to defame. Can we just stick to the facts of the history of his life? Now, if there are quotes that he has made that he's been criticized over (similar to Dan Rather's "Courage"), it might be valid to bring them up as such. Of course, one would still have to be careful in that regard, since his entire job is to incite comments. He's not a "journalist" in the Dan Rather sense. However, I notice I don't see any quotes on the Al Franken page.

Anyway, this entire page needs to be scrapped and re-done.


It's in no way neutral

This article is crap. Look, Boortz and Hannity are good friends; that is a fact. Whoever deleted my changes can go to hell. Also, what the hell is your problem deleting my references to the awards he has won and my reference to his support for the troops. Seriously whoever wrote this is an idiot.

There is really only one quote on here that characterizes Sean Hannity; the rest are simply presented as swipes at his character. It's not at all neutral.

I think the best thing to do is to either add context to the more controversial quotes, or remove them and simply add a section to the article making note that he is a highly controversial figure much like Rush Limbaugh. Personally, I think Sean Hannity is out of his mind, and I categorize him with the likes of Ann Coulter; however, an encyclopedia article is no place to discuss that. That's what the external links are for. Superking 18:27, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

They don't swipe at his character, they make him look like a fool by quoting his words - there's a difference. Saying foolish things is Hannity's responsibility, not the editors of this article. That said, the number should be kept to a minimum.
also regarding the quotes: Why is each quote introduced? Why do we need to be told we are getting a quote about Bush, when Bush is mentioned in the quote? The introductions don't add any context, they just repeat what is already there (The exception being the Cohen quote, which requires some introduction to give the reference.) -Willmcw 23:59, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
I'm going to pull the extraneous introductions unless someone leaps to their defense. If nothing else, the quotes would be less prominent (and bothersome) if reduced in size and verbiage. -Willmcw 09:21, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)


I pulled out this SLIME ATTACK:

" For example, the documentary This Divided State shows at least one instance where he has taunted the few liberals in the crowd, and singled out a liberal audience member to speak on stage so that the mostly conservative audience could jeer the liberal."

Divided State is a LEFT WING PROPAGANDA piece. I've seen bits and pieces (there are clips on their site) and basically it's message is as follows:

Republicans like Sean Hannity: EVIL. Leftys like Michael Moore: WONDERFUL.

They cherry pick the most praiseworthy clips of Moore saying nice things about Republicans (did they forget that the day after 911, in his letter to the terrorists, he suggested they should have bombed the red states where people who voted for Bush lived rather than New York?)

and find one clip where a liberal is booed at a "Hannitization Tour' stop. But even the reference to that piece is dishonest, they edited out the liberal's more provocational comments that stirred up the crowd and claimed the Sean singled him out when he himself volunteered a question.

Big Daddy 14:26, 3 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Devout Catholic

On what basis are we calling Hannity a devout Catholic? To my mind, that would mean weekly attendance at Mass, at a minimum. Unless there is a similarly objective standard, perhaps our entry should read that he "claims/purports/etc" to be a devout Catholic. -Willmcw 01:22, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)

Further, I see some Catholics criticize his acceptance of contraception, which is at odds with the Church's own teachings. [1][2]. We shouldn't simply endorse his claim to devoutness if there is a controversy over the matter. -Willmcw 01:27, Apr 9, 2005 (UTC)
Having heard no objections, I have edited it to read, ...he is a member of the Roman Catholic faith. I think that captures the truth. If someone else wants to get into his disagreements with the teachings of the church they are welcome to it. But I think it is now more accurate. Cheers, -Willmcw 02:23, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)

If you read 'Deliver Us From Evil: Defeating [..]' he makes numerous (30+) refrences to god and the important roll in american and his own life. He also mentions within the first 40 pages his catholic roots and growing up as an Irish american in New York. Since he uses his religion (he extricates 'evil' from biblical teachings) and uses it as his thesis to content repediatly that there is no such thing as 'moral relativism' or otherwise a psychological disorder. As far as i'm concerned anyone who justifies their views with a doctrine is a devote. When Howard Zinn makes socialistic remarks in 'A People's History of the United States' we label him as a marxist, socialistic-anarchist, this is no different.

Speaking only on what the Catholic church says, Sean Hannity is not a Catholic. He has said numerous times that he is against abortion except in cases of medical need or rape. The Catholic church does not allow its members to support abortion in cases of rape, so Sean Hannity would not be considered Catholic in that sense. However, I doubt it comes up at your average church meeting and I doubt a priest would bar him from entering a church so I guess it stands alright. - 24.7.186.18 17:17, 29 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Could the editor who deletes these links:

please explain why they are irrelevant? They seem to be directly related to the subject of this article. Thanks, -Willmcw 20:48, Apr 20, 2005 (UTC)

Having been warned of the 3 revision rule by Gamaliel (Who was in fact doing the reverting), I will hold off for a moment. The subject of the article is Sean Hannity. If the article were about why person x dislikes Sean Hannity, they would be relevant. If web-sites from detractors are considered necessary, then please place them on the pages of other personalities such as Al Franken. Surely a strict adherance to honourable provision of information would require this.
plain_regular_ham 21:02, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
If you feel you have relevant links to add to the Al Franken article, feel free to add them yourself. Gamaliel 21:06, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Very well then. I look forward to your rushing to defend my links in case anyone finds them to be inappropriate, ad hominem garbage.
I'm not familiar with the "Sean Hannity, Evildoer" link, but Media Matters is not just some detractor - their articles on him are always backed up with plenty of proof. Furthermore, while there are a plethora of critics who may call him an evildoer, etc., Media Matters is usually a great repository of those critical views in a well-written, factual manner. I can't think of any link that would better represent criticism of Hannity, and I think removing criticism certainly detracts from the article. Of course we want it to be balanced and neutrally worded, but we also want to represent all views; that's what NPOV is all about, and I can't see it not applying to links. TIMBO (T A L K) 21:15, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I don't know why any of the complainers keep bringing up Al Franken since according to the edit history, none of them had attempted to insert links or make edits of any sort to that article. Gamaliel 01:36, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)


This is hysterical - "Media Matters is usually a great repository of those critical views in a well-written, factual manner."????

Media Matters is a church-lady run nitpicking FAR left organization that's dedicated to slime and spooge conservatives (but completely ignore democrat missteps) as some sort of bizzare repentance ritual by it's founder David Brock to expunge himself of the sin of once being a Republican.

It does appear to back up most of it's points with factual arguments. But they are almost always poisoned with a liberal spin. So the dishonesty inherent in their writing is they confuse liberal spin with reality.

You know sometimes there ARE two sides of a story and the liberal side isn't always the right one.

The mission of Media Matters is to DAMAGE Republicans. Period.

Ps The reason we don't go to Al Franken and garbage-collect a bunch of sleazy quotes about him is that sliming people is not what conservatives do. That's more the stock and trade of liberals.

And this page, the Coulter, O'Reilly and probably countless others in here, prove it.

Jeering

What's wrong with the jeering part? It's factually accurate, and is descriptive. It's part of the "Hannitizing" process, so I don't see why it should be removed. --Holdek (talk) 02:08, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Do you have a reference that mentions the jeering? When I did a quick search I couldn't find any description of "Hannitizing". Cheers, -Willmcw 03:10, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
The documentary film "This Divided State" shows the whole ordeal. Hannity frequently mentions "Hannitizing" on his radio and television programs. --Holdek (talk) 03:19, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
If that is exactly what the documentary shows, then I think you could use that as the reference. I found references to "Hannitizing", but in some cases it seems to refer to the general spread of his poltical message. -03:28, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
The right way to attribute it might be something like, "The documentary "This Divided State" depicts "Hannitizing" as including..." -Willmcw 03:31, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
I've now edited it to that effect. --Holdek (talk) 04:23, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

Look, the line on "Jeering for several minutes" is unfair to Mr. Hannity, and if your going to continue to insist on this line I want the following items. 1) evidence from the doccumentry 2) a article written on the doccumentry that is linked into this article. if these are not provided, this line is in my opinion unsuported POV. --Brandon Warzybok 19:17, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

The evidence is in the trailer. The "several minutes" part is unsubstantiated and should perhaps be taken out, but the audience is clearly jeering the person who is speaking. The clip also shows Hannity mockingly saying, "here liberal liberal liberal", as if he were calling a dog. I consider that taunting. So I suggest instead of changing the word to "claims", we keep it as "shows", but remove the words "several minutes" from the sentence. Everything else is clearly shown in the trailer. Superking 19:39, 19 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]


At least find a link for the trailer, let the people decide. im saying that this claim is currently unsubstanitated, thats my point. --Brandon Warzybok 21:29, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

The clip can be found at www.thisdividedstate.com. The full movie includes a scene of Hannity inviting a guy up on stage, and he goes, "Okay, now you can explain to everyone why you are voting for John Kerry." And then Hannity steps offstage, and the guy stands up there and starts giving his reasons and is drowned out by a cacaphony of boos.
Just the same, while "several minutes" may or may not be unsubstantiated (it appeared to be several minutes), I think its kind of a POV detail and I'm going to remove it. The description of Hannity rallies is enough, I think, and going further into detail does seem POV. --Holdek (talk) 22:05, May 19, 2005 (UTC)

I just finished researching the second to last sentance of the article regarding This Divided State. First, regardless of anything else the sentence is very out of place and comes out of no where. Add more cited information to make it a paragraph or remove it. That being said, I looked at the movie clips on the website and found that he calls on a "liberal" in the audience and acts respectful towards him. The audience boos and jeers, but how is that Hannity's fault? Hannity even tries to quiet the audience saying "let him finish." Now two posts up from mine someone explains that the full video shows him inviting a liberal on stage who is then drowned out by the audience. My point is, unless Hannity verbally expresses his specific intent, we can't assume why he did it. The way the sentence is currently phrased makes it seem that the reason he calls the person on stage is so the person can be booed by the audience. How do you know this? Show me inarguable proof that that's what his intentions were and only then should that sentence be kept. Personally I think the sentance should just be removed but mostly have a problem starting with the word "so". If the sentence is kept then my previous "let him finish" example should be added.

Hannity & ADL

  • In 2004 Sean Hannity was sued by the Anti Defamation League for libel. During the trial Hannity said that he is “just like any other entertainer with a specific paying audience to appeal to. Nobody sued Eminem for his comments against homosexuals, because he’s just trying to make some money. I’m just trying to do the same thing,” said Hannity. The court ultimately ruled in Hannity’s favor.

I can't find any reference to this. Given the propensity of both parties to seek publicity, I can't understand how a lawsuit like this could have no trace. I'm removing it until we can find a source for the suit aqnd a description of what it was about. -Willmcw 04:48, July 18, 2005 (UTC)

Criticisms

First, the initial sentence after the title "criticisms" makes it seem that Hannity being a conservative is a criticism. Needs to be reworded. Secondly, if there's going to be a criticism section there needs to be a section detailing points of support.

Triva and Criticisms

Check the triva and Criticisms sections. The Triva violates the NPOV "Sean Hannity appears as a character in an explicitly conservative comic book". The reason why I believe that the criticisms violates the npov is the fact that the page only has a Criticisms section and not any points from the other side.

The Links in my opinion needs work to solve another NPOV issue I am not sure what Wikipedia rules are on external links but putting someone’s personal hate page about Sean Hannity is not what I think is becoming to a neutral point of view. I do not like Sean Hannity but agree strongly with keeping things with in the NPOV. "Sean Hannity's Democratic Fascist Party" and "SeanHannityEvildoer.com" have to go before this article comes out of dispute.

The links don't have to be NPOV. And there are several of them, both pro and con, giving different perspectives on Hannity. Holdek (talk) 18:57, August 29, 2005 (UTC)

I changed "he is well known for being rude to guests"

I changed it back to "His critics accuse him of"--Soliscjw 18:28, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like it was a POV vandalism anyway. --The Amazing Superking 20:12, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Hannity fans

I agree that since there is a criticism section, there needs to be at least a short section about the opinions of those who support Hannity's views. I tried to write a section supporting Hannity but when I read it, it seemed to be sarcastic, mocking conservatives. A liberal like me can't solve the problem. If you are capable, you should do your best to improve this article's faults.Onionhound 09:41, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I made some considerable word changes and added some more information to make the criticism section flow a lot better, especially with the "This Divided State" bit, while pushing the POV a tick back to the right. Perhaps a little too much so, but it is more neutral than it originally was. BTW, I am a Republican searching for a party with values. Please help me...--MatthewMitchell 00:23, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

sorry about the npov tag

I put it up for about a minute but then relized some one had already removed the item that i was disputing.--Soliscjw 04:56, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

This needs to be fixed

"Hannity claims that he is for reducing the size of the Federal Government yet he is all for the Government legislating morality. Hannity claims that progress is being made in Iraq yet he has not set foot in Iraq to document that "progress". He has, however, criticized the Bush administration over its immigration policy and its fiscal spending, as well as its handling of judicial nominations, and, as of this writing, has stepped up his criticisms on the Republican Party on these issues on his radio program." --Soliscjw 21:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Clean Up

I've cleaned up the article a little. IMHO, here's what we need to work on:

  • More info on early career/work. At the moment it's not that cohesive.
  • Some brief info about Hannity & Colmes, as well as his Radio Show. Can probably poach the former from the H&C article. The current info is all over the place.
  • Elimination of Weasel words. Critics need to be shown.

I am a left libertarian who votes Democratic and in the current climate feel that, as a libertarian, I'm much more of a liberal than a social conservative. BUT.... i love wikipedia and understand the importance of NPOV. IMHO the best way to get to NPOV is to replace normative crap. Just so you know where I stand. Cheers. Jackk 06:22, 4 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Further Clean Up

Honestly, as a fan of the concept of WIKI I think these articles should be limited to professional aspects and EMPIRICAL / SOURCED criticism. These sources should be credible and documented, not the political throwes of political hacks. As I'm sure some of you will glean, I am a conservative. However I only look for proper debate and progress, not to stifle political opposition. --Hackett83 19:21, 15 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality/Factual Issues

First paragraph

Hannity is 'controversial' - Who says? This is meant to be an encyclopedia article not someone's opinion.

Second paragraph

Hannity 'claims' that he dropped out because of financial difficulties. Is 'said' or 'says' a bit too even-handed for a left-wing smear job?

Third paragraph

'indignance' - not a word I'm familiar with - factual error at least.

Shall I keep going for a fourth paragraph? Perhaps later. There's a start and certainly sufficient cause for a discussion on the neutrality and factual accuracy of the article. Fluterst 03:27, 28 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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