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This strip club is not notable. It has lot of local news hits for land use lawsuits and the owner is a local loudmouth. These things always true for strip clubs so it does not make this one notable. There was sentence in the article that said one of the lawsuits made it to the Supreme Court of the United States. The reference for this was an article pointing to a land use lawsuit in a local district court. This discrepancy between what the article said and what the reference said was so huge I tried to find valid sources showing this strip club is more important than any other in Tampa. It do have lots of news hits saying the owner is a loudmouth that sue the city a lot but that is run-of-the-mill for Tampa strip clubs. In this case, even a lot of local coverage does not make for an encyclopedic topic. Miami33139 (talk) 16:56, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. -- Miami33139 (talk) 17:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • keep - Looking through the gNews archives to January, 2001 [1], a couple of things struck me. Now, this may be in response to a couple of incidents, but if you read through the synopses of the archived articles (which, sadly, are pay articles) the club itself appears to be referred to as "notorious" (geo location unknown), "high profile" (St. Petersburg, FL), "popular" (Boston), "infamous" (New York), etc., and there appear to be mentions about the club from LA, Texas, and other places. Wile the coverage may have been driven by events in some cases (e.g. Dallas Stars player's arrests), the coverage seems to reference the club in general. National coverage + established news media citing the club's notability=general notability. Vulture19 (talk) 17:57, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
    • I would agree with you if even one of the national stories was about the strip club rather than the strip club just being mentioned as the location. Drugs, whores and celebrities behaving badly are normal in the vicinity of a strip club so you expect a common intersection of news reports that mention the place in the background. Miami33139 (talk) 20:03, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep- per Vulture19 and reference that the subject is listed as top ten in the world from a reputable and notable third-party source.--It's me...Sallicio! 21:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]