Talk:Erling Folkvord

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January 30, 2010	Good article nominee	Listed

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A fact from Erling Folkvord appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 20 December 2009 (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know
- ... that the Norwegian communist politician Erling Folkvord (pictured) is well-known for his work as a corruption watchdog?
A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2009/December.

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Contradictory info on parliamentary work

"He was a member of the Standing Committee on Finance in 1992, a Member of Parliament from 1993-1997". The standing committee is a part of the parliament, so he would have to have been a parliamentarian also at that point. I notice that also the Norwegian Bokmål Wikipedia presents this contradiction. It should be cleard up. __meco (talk) 23:35, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done --TIAYN (talk) 16:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Now, should we really have details about which parliamentary committees he was a member of in the lead? __meco (talk) 20:45, 11 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Working on it. --TIAYN (talk) 14:55, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Done --TIAYN (talk) 15:32, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reorganizing needed

The decription of the 1983 local election in Oslo goes into minute details and perhaps even anecdotal information that is unnecessary. This should be pruned. Also the Turkey incident should go into a separate section as it is lost where it currently is. Also, the mention of the photograph which was confiscated appears as somewhat digressive, and without further information I find it non-notable. __meco (talk) 16:04, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There does not exist any detailed information about his campaign in 1983... --TIAYN (talk) 16:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

No more information on the topic, most of the news sources just said he was arrested in Turkey and thats it.. No more info. I can remove the information about the image, but that would minimize the information we have about the topic. --TIAYN (talk) 16:12, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

DYK / GA

I was considering nominating this article for WP:DYK, however, I believe it is too much in need of copy-editing and pruning in its current state to be presented on the front page. That in my perception also means it has no chance of attaining GA status before these issues are resolved. When the article becomes better organized and proof-read I will consider DYK'ing it. __meco (talk) 16:41, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead a nominated it for DYK seeing that the above could be done rather swiftly. __meco (talk) 17:22, 13 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Erling Folkvord/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Arsenikk ^(talk) 13:46, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've done a fair bit of copyediting. In addition to removing a few grammatical abnormalities and removin some Norwenglish, I have shortened down some sections simply because there are a lot more efficient ways of saying the same thing. For instance, the lead now says exactly the same thing, but says the most important information first, and uses less words.

Done There is a fair bit of overlinking. Things like Oslo and national convention are probably linked ten times.
Done Don't put a comma between the month and year if there is only a month and a year.
Done Possesive has an ' (e.g. Folkvord's pie)
Done Ankara, not Ancara
Done You can't say the most important of these polls was Aftenposten's, and then cite it to aftenposten.
Done Find a new header instead of "Late 90s-2003 election". Use an endash and the full 1990s, but an accurate date would be a lot better.
Done What was the total result in the 1999-election?
Done I presume RV elects their leaders, instead of the incumbent appointing their successor?
Done '1990s', not '90s'.
Done Semicolons seem to consequently be used incorrectly, and in most instances should be replaced with a colon.
Is it really the national convention that appoints Oslo RV's top candidate?

Landsmøte -> National Convention? --TIAYN (talk) 15:59, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The translation is fine. It was just that it is common that the annual meeting in the county appoint the MP candidates for their county. Of course, since RV only has a chance at two seats, they may have a different policy. Just trying to make sure things are correct. Arsenikk ^(talk) 16:25, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Don't force image sizes.
Done What was the result of the 2007 election for RV?
Done Perhaps add a note that Dahle runs for Hordaland.
Done what was the result of the 2009 election for RV?
Done There is probably a better article to link 'Turkish government forces' to than Turkey.
Why on earth does "Social Agencies Union" link to Erling Folkvord.

Un-notable organization with no news coverage as i can see, he is the leader and the only notable member as i know of, so...

Done "Corruption", "humanity", "illegal" and "watch dog" are all dismabiguation pages.
Done Utdannignsforbundet translate to Union of Education Norway.
How can Jorunn Folkvord be a 'prominent' member of RV/AKP if she isn't even a politician?

She was a member of the two, and an active member. She was also the leader of RU. This is what the sources say.

Done With prominent, I would have interpreted it as one of the top three-four figures of the party for a longer period of time. Since this is rather vague (and a weasel word, it is best to not use it. Arsenikk ^(talk) 16:25, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done Don't duplicate references as external links. Ideal articles have no external links.

I am placing the article on hold. For you next nomination, I would expect the article to have less overlinking. Also try to remember to use 's for possessive. In addition, I would have liked to see more about the four years he was in parliament, which should have been his climax. There is no discussion about what he did or took up during those four years. Also, please take a good look at the diff of my copyedit. There are a lot of style and grammar issues that need to be improved (learning by doing etc.) Arsenikk ^(talk) 13:46, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

For a good article I think his authorship should be covered better. He has written quite many books. It doesn't belong in the "personal life" section. Geschichte (talk) 22:53, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

i'll fix it... --TIAYN (talk) 10:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I'm still working on it. --TIAYN (talk) 17:42, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I won't comment on any other part of the article, but still, what has his authorship got to do with his family? Geschichte (talk) 21:32, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Done --TIAYN (talk) 22:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The article is now passed. Arsenikk ^(talk) 16:11, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The corruptions uncovered

I hope and suggest that articles or at least one article will be written specifically on the matters of public and private corruption uncovered by Erling Folkvord. That is definitely encyclopedic and notable subject matter but may necessitate some work. __meco (talk) 22:55, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I've never thought of that, but that was a pretty good idea. --TIAYN (talk) 23:21, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There's really an entire sector of public life that is hardly being covered by Wikipedia at all, i.e. the life and woes of local government hierarchies in addition to various aspects of commercial sectors. __meco (talk) 12:58, 30 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]