Talk:Behind Enemy Lines (2001 film)

Criticism

Who idea? There's nothing wrong with being patriotic, and I don't see the film being Serbophobic in any way. Just because a movie is made about Nazis, does that mean it's an attack against all Germans? I'm removing that section.

Yes, there is nothing wrong with being patriotic. There is wrong to make idiotic movies like Behind Enemy Lines. They'd better make film about O'Graidy eating insects. At least, they would shown TRUE events. Sea diver 08:46, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

I think it somehow makes the French admiral the enemy in certain areas, like when he assumes command. I also noticed that the British journalist dude had really bad teeth, playing on the stereotype on how all British people have bad teeth. Seriphyn 22:23, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

The stereotype about bad teeth amuses me no end! Where the hell did it come from? I've noticed absolutely no difference in dental hygiene between the UK and US. Very odd. And as for the French.. it seems the US has a real thing for French. Always portrayed as either the bad guy or stupid.

I thought the Brits started the French thing. You went and beat up on poor Napoleon, who had never hurt anyone in his entire life. --71.172.37.93 (talk) 06:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Um, who is Sasha and who plays him. Whoever wrote this summary left that out. Timmyfitz161 (talk) 21:06, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Similarity to Bat 21

i reckonZ its kinda clear that Behind enemy lines echos/ borrows from Bat 21. not copying but i think that the producers knew about this, i think thats why they cast gene hackman, and wilson even makes a reference to golf as a metaphor, which plays a big part in Bat 21. should I or someone else add this?

SAM attack scene

How faithful is the scene to real-life SAMs? Do the missiles actually have the endurance and maneuverability to track an airplane persistently as in the movie? Masterblooregard 02:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

It depends on pilot skill and plane maneuverability. Example, a pilot doing barrel rolls is not going to break a missile, however, a pilot who perhaps does a High-G Turn and manages to break the missile and/or releases chaffs / flares may have the ability to break a missile. However, if a pilot is doing multiple flips, multiple rolls, etc. as seen somewhat in the film, especially flying amongst clouds which may or may not interfere with radar (depending on the sophistication of the missile), chances are more than likely he will successfully evade a missile. Now a Surface to Air Missile with the properties of a Quick-Maneuvering Ground-to-Air, Sea-To-Air, or Air-to-Air, missile just may, but only so much. I guess the simple answer to your question is "no". ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② ^talk 16:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Masterblooregard, the answer to your question is NO. A 2K12 Kub (aka SA-6) SAM missile shown in the movie cannot turn 180 degrees and keep following the aircraft it already missed head-on for two important reasons 1) it is not so maneuverable 2) it is a short-range missile - it would have run out of fuel. Another idiocy in the movie was the use of flares (and a fireball from a dropped fuel tank) to confuse a non-infrared guided missile (Kub has a command + semi-active radar homing). The aircraft needed radar jammer or at least chaff to hope to confuse this kind of missile. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.110.220.113 (talk) 21:39, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

film

this is very stupid film.I just watched them.on the lake are a hunderad soldiers but ice doesnt crash and film is very unreal.–Sinji soko (talk) 21:47, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Okay, but this is not a forum for the breaking down and bashing of an individual film's points. While entitled to your opinion, this is a talk page for the purpose of the betterment of the associated article and those seeking to further their knowledge in relation to such (see above discussion), not a discussion board. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② ^talk 16:55, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Behind the Scenes details

I recall from the commentary of this film and Zoolander that;

a. Gene Hackman picked to cast Owen Wilson for this movie after watching Wilson's performance in Shanghai Noon which is part of the commentary in this film.

b. That Owen Wilson was also filming Zoolander with Ben Stiller around this time frame and that he that he had to wear a wig for his Zoolander role.

Can anyone verify these details? -71.59.237.110 (talk) 02:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

If you can watch the film and find a respected link online and can truly verify that such is the case, then consider it verified. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② ^talk 16:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)

Film Error

I would just like to point out that the directors obviously didn't think about filming this properly because while it has been recorded in reverse the American flag patches on the soldiers shoulders are BACKWARDS! Kristy - Sydney

God this is old stuff but i just wanted to paste this answer here "The flag is worn with the "appearance" of being backwards on soldiers RIGHT arm to symbolize early American armies which had a flag carrier holding our flag high (which looks backwards from one side while correct from the other). The "backwards" flag signifies this and gives the perception that every soldier is carrying a flag. Left arm patches are correctly laid."

Its done on purpose

About the armpatches..

It's not common knowledge - I asked a US soldier why his patches were backwards and he had no idea. Also, there was no flag on his other shoulder, only a unit insignia. Therefore, the only flag on his uni is backwards. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.19.142.15 (talk) 14:55, 8 February 2010 (UTC)

SA-13

The article mentions SA-13 , any source ? Taking in mind that SA-13 is very short range missile up to 500 meters only ! The most appropriate SAM would be SA-12 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.8.246.12 (talk) 22:21, 13 February 2010 (UTC)