Talk:Mike Lowell
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Congratulations to Mr. Lowell for having a magnificent year (2007). I wish he were a Yankee. I especially congratulate him on being a cancer survivor and staying strong and continuing to achieve. He is an inspiration to many!! 24.189.35.249 (talk) 20:03, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
Random rant
Being born in Puerto Rico doesn't make you a Puerto Rican. His father is Cuban. The write up doesn't say what nationality his mother is but assuming she is also Cuban, Mike Lowell is a Cuban who just happened to be born in Puerto Rico and he should not be identified as being Puerto Rican. If his mother is Puerto Rican then, of course, he would be half Puerto Rican. Furthermore, since Puerto Rico is a colony of the United States and it does not have the right to bestow its own citizenship upon its own native people or otherwise, Mr. Lowell is an American citizen of Cuban descent by virtue of having been born in Puerto Rico. He can not even be considered a Puerto Rican citizen because there is no legally recognizable status. Please do not misinterpret this note. He is an excellent baseball player and certainly an excellent role model for young Latinos. As a Puerto Rican/Latino I am proud of his accomplishments. I am merely attempting to correct a factual note in his biography that is not accurate. I wish he were a Met. February 26, 2009. REONYC57.
- Puerto Ricans have their own separate nationality since 1898, it does exist. Lowell intended to represent Puerto Rico in the 2009 WBC, which clearly establishes his allegiance. His father, who was indeed Cuban lived and even played for Puerto Rico, its not like Mike was only born in the archipelago. - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:07, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Um... correction! Being born in Puerto Rico MAKES you a Puerto Rican. Just like being born in the US makes you American. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.128.73.67 (talk) 20:49, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
Mr. Lowell spent moths in PR? He's a Cuban-American. Please. He has no ties to P.R. culture. But if you want to edith the main page and deny that he truly is a Cuban-American, so be it. Just realize that his parents his friends and his culture are all Cuban-American, not Puerto Rican. I didn't realize that the Wiki gods would come down harshly on a clarification. If this is the wrong place for this discussion, please delete it but it seems like it is. And if you delete it, I will know it was the wrong place to post it, no need for a slap on the wrist. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.153.162.231 (talk) 03:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
- He was planning to play for Puerto Rico in the WBC. He was born in Puerto Rico. How is that no ties to P.R. culture? xschm (talk) 19:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
In my comment above I did not state that Puerto Ricans do not have their own nationality. We do and, in fact, our nationality as Puerto Ricans was established long before 1898; hundreds of years before as the Spanish, African and Taino people fused into the Puerto Rican culture and identity. The earliest political manifestation of our identity and culture as a nation of Puerto Ricans was in 1868 with El Grito de Lares revolt against Spanish colonial rule.
What Puerto Rico has been deprived of since its national identity was formed is the right to exist in the world of nations as an autonomous and independent nation with the rights and freedoms of all people to self determination and to govern themselves free of the control of a foreign power, the last 100+ years plus under the political control of the United States. As such, we are American citizens (the Jones Act of 1917) with no political right to to be a Puerto Rican citizen. Thus, a Puerto Rican nationality does exist but a Puerto Rican citizen does not. Puerto Rican nationality is in our blood and history not in the accidental coincidence that you may have happened to be born in Puerto Rico while on a weekend vacation. Ponder this question: if both your parents are Chinese and happen to visiting Puerto Rico and your mother was 9 months pregnant at the time and you happend to be born in Puerto Rico, does this make you a Puerto Rican? No, you are a Chinese who simply was born in Puerto Rico. And you can not be born a Puerto Rican citizen because that legal status doesn't exist in Puerto Rico even for Puerto Ricans. Similarly, if your Puerto Rican parents were in the miltary and living in Iraq and you happend to be born in Baghdad, does this make you an Iraqui? No.
Also, when have you seen a Puerto Rican passport?
Similarly, if you happen to be born in the United States of Chinese parents, this doesn't make you an American. You are Chinese (nationality) and legally an American citizen because the laws of this country so provide. March 11, 2009. REONYC57 —Preceding unsigned comment added by REONYC57 (talk • contribs) 18:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Confusing Sentence Placement
In the first section, it is confusing as to whether Mike or his father played in the Pan American games. Just thought I'd get that out there... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.133.21 (talk) 00:35, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
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Mike Lowell was born in puerto rico to Cuban parents. That makes him Cuban , the fact that he was born in puerto rico is not important. He is married to a Cuban wife and the fact that he was thinking about playing for puerto rico in the WBC was most likely because he wanted to beat fidel's team because Fidel kicked him out of his family's country. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.154.94.132 (talk) 20:18, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
- The mere fact that he born in Puerto Rico makes him a dual citizen. His interest was to represent Puerto Rico in the World Baseball Classic because was born there and his father played for Puerto Rico, he said it himself. Even if that was not the case, your perception of the issue is nothing more than original research. To top the cake, Carlos Lowell left Cuba before he was a teenager and stayed there long enough to gain residence, which discards any allegation of being born in Puerto Rico "by chance". All of the IP addresses (I'm guessing all of them were you) that have been changing this back and forth come from Florida, which is home to a large ex-pat Cuban population, making obvious that the changes are propaganda. Hence the current protection. - Caribbean~H.Q. 20:52, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
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Either way, Puerto rican or Cuban, he is still a great baseball player. I know he has Cuban decent somehow but if what you had said is true, than I guess he is considered Puerto rican. Just to let you know, I do think the Island of puerto rico is a great place and I would want to go there to visit sometime. I am not Cuban and I have just not had the time or felt the need to set up a wikipedia account.
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