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Move to "Dick Grayson"?

Should we move this article to "Dick Grayson" and make "Nightwing" a redirect? There are plenty of reasons to do it: 1 - This article is an extensive biography of Dick in all of his crime fighting secret identities, not just Nightwing, and we have no way of knowing for sure if Dick will still be Nightwing after "One Year Later...". 2 - It seems odd to discuss Burt Ward, Chris O'Donnell, Earth-Two Dick Grayson and All-Star Dick Grayson in an article titled "Nightwing", since none of them ever wore Nightwing's costume. 3 - "Dick Grayson" is a more universal title, which covers all facets of his life, and is a name known by virtually anyone with decent amount of Batman knowledge, even more than "Nightwing". If you hadn't picked up a comic book for 25 years, you wouldn't know who Nightwing is, but sure as hell you'd know who Dick is.

I think Nightwing should remain a redirect for the time being, and everything about Superman's brief Pre-Crisis stint as Nightwing should remain here for context, but if there's a new Nigthtwing after "One Year Later...", it might be necessary to make "Nightwing" (much like "Robin") a brief article talking about the origins of the superhero identity (which in this case are Kryptonian), and directing to the articles about the different people who have fought crime under it at different times (Dick Grayson, the potential future Nightwing, and Superman in Pre-Crisis continuity). --Ace ETP 20:22, 7 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There doesn´t seem to be any negative response to my idea of change this article's name to "Dick Grayson" yet...I'll wait a few more days and if there's still none I'll try to change it myself, and make "Nightwing" a redirect (which will be hard as I've never done a redirect)... --Ace ETP 19:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

How come there's no mentioning about his relationship with Barbara Gordon or any of his love life? HoneyBee 11:39, 5 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Appealing to youngsters.

According to Bob Kane in his autobiography, it wasn't DC Comics who thought Robin would help appeal to youngsters, it was Kane and it seems mostly Bill Finger. Kane states that his then boss Jack Liebowitz didn't want Robin in the book and though mothers would be upset at a chile fighting gangsters. He allowed Kane and Finger a shot to prove him wronng and said if it went bad they would remove Robin from the book. After the positive responce to The Boy Wonder Kane joked to his boss that they better get rid of him now and his boss agreed to let Robin stay.

FWIW, Bob Kane's been noted for taking considerable credit for the Batman line that isn't really his. Not that Robin didn't turn out well, but I suspect Kane takes more credit than is deserved. Ipstenu 18:09, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Pointer to Nite-Wing article

Could someone familiar with the Nite-Wing character do something with the Wiki article? I would post this in the discussion for said article, but no one would see it. (I'd do it myself but I am pretty ignorant of the character.) Korvac 16:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently there is a stub at 'Nite-Wing' and a real article at 'Nite-wing'. Perhaps the real article should be migrated to the correct place? Korvac 13:19, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Images/condensed

I dont want to remove anything, but this article is getting really cluttered. Some of the images need to be removed. --DrBat 13:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, I think it looks great with all those images. Several people have done a really good job transforming this page from a mediocre description of a recycled Silver Age Superman alter-ego to a great biography of Dick Grayson. Removing the images would only detract from it. --Ace ETP 19:50, 9 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]