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The White Rose Society (website)

Keep. The audio files and other material archived at the White Rose site are a valuable historical resource. Access to such should be denied to no serious user of Wikipedia. EuroObserver, Barcelona.

Delete No historical signifigance. Co-opted the name from a WWII resistance group.

keep. Because they told me to on DemocraticUnderground.

Delete. Vanity article.

delete. it sucks.

Keep. User wants to delete for reasons that have to do with that user's POV. Comes up with other threshold reasons to rationalize. User has a documented history of edit warring. Also, if this page is deleted, a knowledge hole is created that the disambiguation page isn't intended/designed/adequate to resolve.BusterD 19:12, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. whiterosesociety.org streams and archives a lot of audio programs, both well-known and obscure. It's a very useful resource. Blue Llama 18:27, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Agree with user below.

Keep. Personal grievences and temper tantrums have no place making Wikipedia decisions. On edit: Take note! Someone attempted to change my vote, and the vote of the person above me, to support deletion. Be on the alert for vote tampering. Thanks to the person that corrected it. 7:05 PM UTC 10 January 2006.

Keep - for freedom of expression. If you want to live in a fascist theocracy move to Saudi Arabia.

Delete. Non-notable vanity article. Holdek (talk) 04:30, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Delete. The calls for deletion are "inpired" (snicker) by partisanship but the calls for keeping are pure as the driven snow, is that it? And I think the "neocons and PNAC" have better things to do than worry about the White Rose Society. "Neocons and the PNAC" are not monitoring the White Rose Society and Democratic Underground. Some people are pretty full of themselves and their sense of self-importance. Of course, I'm not surprised to see benburch begging people to vote for his website, since his idol, Guy James, is always shamelessly begging for money on DU.

Keep. A "Vanity" article would have to have been created by the website's owner, me. It wasn't. The site has delivered five million hours of liberal/progressive talk radio since 2002, and this deletion campaign seems to be "payback" from Holdek for my having complained about him for a 3RR violation. Unseemly, but there you have it. BenBurch 05:55, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I appreciate that coming from you given our past differences. Thanks. BenBurch 19:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep or merge. Useful site. WPWiles 18:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge. It seems like the only content on the article is a list of items found on the website - this could be combined with the Ben Burch article (or, alternatively, expanded upon to include more history). I don't really think there is enough relavant information that would warrant a seperate article, right now though. --Toddbloom7 19:36, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep . Useful site. Archives recordings that might otherwise evaporate.
  • Keep. 5 million hours of good radio should not be dropped down the memory hole.
  • Delete . It's all garbage... get rid of it now
  • Delete. Worthless tripe being foisted on the gullible in an attempt to make $$$
  • KEEP. This website is too valuable to many people for us to delete it.
  • Keep. 5 million hours of GREAT radio.

"Keep" One of the best archival sources for honest talk radio currently available

  • KEEP White Rose is a valuable resource for many progressives, who, at least up until now, also have the right to have their voices heard. Ben Burch is a true patriot.Sweetm2475 19:02, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Delete . I don't think this article has useful purpose. Wikipedia should strive to remain an encyclopedia on par with other well-known references. Putting up an entry to serve as a portal amounts to turning Wikipedia into a directed google search. I would be inclined to keep this article if there were some educational merit to the content, but currently it reads as an advertisement for another website. What's next, an article for cheaptickets.com extolling it as place for bargain airline fares? While I'm sure The White Rose Society website serves a large user base that enjoys what is has to offer, I don't think that neccesitates a need for an entry. Wikipedia is not a place to advertise your favorite website. Also, currently DU has been called on to "DU" this site so expect to be flooded with keeps. I mean, the fact a message board close to The White Rose Society has been called upon to slant this discussion... recommend to lock. -m00
The above user neglects to mention a similar campaign to urge the deletion of the entry, originating from a website ideologically opposed to DU, and his self-confessed role in it. So, all's fair, eh? WPWiles 19:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Lets talk about this on the dicussion page. I am a huge supporter of Wikipedia. I have nothing against The White Rose Society Website, I just see the article as adverstisement and wikispam/wikiclutter. -m00

Delete it it's worthless

Delete It's political vanity, as evidenced by the DU pep rally posts

Delete this trash please an extremly slanted view

  • Delete When BenBurch has to ask a left-wing radical site to "DU" the polls of this site, you know its not worth anyones time to read his drivel.
  • Delete. The website is too obscure and the article in question is used for promotion purposes This1 19:11, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Ben is perfectly within his rights to ask for his friends at DU to help him defend his web site here. I download something from White Rose every day. Keep, keep, keep. On edit: Looks like the FReepers are getting in on the act, so expect a whole spate of deletes from them.

  • Keep. What another website is doing shouldn't affect the vote - positive '
  • Delete.Using people who dont read or even know what Benburch's Wiki entry is "within his rights"? Dont think so. As with they way DU skews political polls by getting a group of individuals to "vote like them", this isnt "within his rights" its tacky and shameful.

DUers find Ben's site invaluable. The programs he archives tell the truth about the Bush Crime Family, unlike the drivel spewed by conservative hacks who lie for Bush every day on terrestrial radio. Now that's tacky and shameful. Keep.

  • Delete. It's pathetic that someone actually has to post a whining thread on far left sites like Democratic Underground, begging people to vote to keep his site.


Keep. "Tacky and shameful" is launching a delete page entry campaign out of spite. you petty petty "right wing" fascists. Freepersh8truth 19:22, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Good archival resource, and an independent voice. Useful site.

  • Delete. When the only reason people visit his site is when he begs them to do so, it's time to send it down the memory hole. The programs he archives gives tirades with zero facts to back them up. The traffic his website gets is less than AAR listenership, which is extremely lower and getting lower.

Keep: Have found it very useful.

Keep. The calls for deletion are inpired by partisanship, but the article is accurate and the WRS is a useful tool for those interested in progressive talk radio.

Keep' Good source of information that neocons and PNAC would just as soon keep under wraps

KEEP - Freepers are afraid of facts. Good source of info. Agree with vote about wanting to keep data about PNAC and the neocons under wraps. Very useful site for people interested in truth.

KEEP - only a moron is afraid of the truth. (to the poster below, of course you would edit keep votes to become deletes, see 2000 Florida & 2004 Ohio.) http://home.mchsi.com/~guesswho/moran.jpg (this poster since he just edited his response)

  • Delete. only a moron can't spell truth. Go ahead and edit it before anyone see's your stupidity.. (on edit, nice try. You want to edit peoples posts and words? I'll take care of every "keep" in this poll.)

KEEP - valuable information and opinion.

DELETE- Or, use it for Bird cage liner..

KEEP - Useful archive site. Only place to find this audio on the web.

KEEP - From wiki's deletion policy: If in doubt, don't delete.

Neutral The proposal for deletion seems to be politically motivated and should be ignored for that fact alone; there are numerous far more questionable entries. On the other hand the page begs a few questions regarding copyright of the offered material and the name is borderline tasteles considering the real white rose. --HBS 19:57, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Keep - Good resource online of archived videos and audios. White Rose Society deserves to remain. Many resources online are only half as good as this one.

All the material offered on The White Rose society is offered with consent of the Copyright holders and the radiostations / websites often refer to it as well. It is a free service available for progressive radiostations who are interesting in maintaining an archive of their material. Dr Debug 19:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Benburch and his White Rose Society has scammed me out of thousands of dollars. There is no doucmentation he will provide me that my "donations" have gone to anything other than his pocket when the money was given in good faith to help save his radio program. I demand verification or I will be taking this to civil court !!

  • Delete. Unless Wikipedia charges for advertising his website, the entry should be deleted.

Keep - for freedom of expression. If you want to live in a fascist theocracy move to Saudi Arabia.

  • Delete. only after you move to your Communist/Socialist wet dream Cuba/ Venezuela, douche bag.Dont you have babies to murder?
   keep it up Mr. Posterboy for abortion rights I'm sure you are convincing your sisterwife but the sane people in your party are as disgusted by you as your pediatrician was when your motheraunt told him she was pregnant
  • Keep. Don't you fascist pigs have some towel-heads to render for torture? Some peace groups to spy on? Some more Indian tribes to steal from? Some more congressmen to bribe?
  • Delete. Please tell me your an Arab, at DU, with a huge pension. I can take care of it all in one shot. Yes. Spying on you is much worse than murdering unborn children.. dumbass..

Delete. Does not conform to Wiki standards and is being used to simply advertise an individual's website. Furthermore, the webmaster of "The White Rose Society" has asked partisans on a Democratic Party forum to vote 'Keep'[1]. 0nslaught 20:21, 10 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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