Talk:Icarus

Proposal for link/merger

I propose a "See Also" link to Icarus imagery in contemporary popular music and possibly cut/pasting everything under "in popular culture" heading regarding music references, onto suggested page.

thefinman^TALK--Thefinman 19:46, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

I think it's best to avoid 'popular culture' sections of articles, especially when they are the biggest section there. I'd say, cull the imagery list so that only the the significant references survive, place that in the article temporarily and AfD the Icarus imagery in contemporary popular music article. CaveatLector^Talk 20:25, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Popular culture section

I am cutting the popular culture section and reposting it below. This section needs to be written so that it is not an indiscriminate list of information, and actually uses sources to discuss the influence that the Icarus story has had on the arts. CaveatLector^Talk 21:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

The section:

In popular culture

See Icarus imagery in contemporary films and television.

• A particular picture of Icarus is a symbol for the rock band, Led Zeppelin.
• In the Adult Swim program, The Venture Bros., Brock Sampson gets a tattoo of Icarus in "showdown at Cremation Creek, Part 1"
• Icarus has also been referred to in much literature. For example Carol Ann Duffy's poem "Mrs Icarus" in her collection "The Worlds Wife".
• The title of the NES game, Kid Icarus is a reference to this story, and features a winged protagonist named Pit.
• Iron Maiden penned and performed "Flight of Icarus", placing it on their Piece of Mind album, the song is a homage of sorts to this tale.
• God of War 2 an insane and delusional version of Icarus is a boss Kratos fights.
• The spaceships in Danny Boyle's science-fiction film Sunshine (2007) are called Icarus I and Icarus II (since they fall into the sun to ignite it)
• Icarus and the story behind the melting of his wings is featured in the movie American History X.
• Black metal band Emperor have made a song called "An Elegy of Icarus" on their "IX: Equilibrium" album based on this story.
• The song "The Melting Point of Wax" by post-hardcore quartet Thrice directly references this story. The song can be found on their album The Artist in the Ambulance.
• The song "Blinded" by Third Eye Blind has a reference to Icarus.
• There is a song called "Icarus" by Jason Webley.
• There is another song called "Icarus" by the Swiss trance group Flutlicht.
• The satellite which Graves owns in "Die Another Day" is called Icarus.
• The song "A Romance By The Wings Of Icarus" by It Dies Today found in their album "Forever Scorned" has a reference to Icarus.
• In the Adult Swim online game "Floor It," during his flight through the air Rusty Cuyler says he feels like Icarus, soaring through the air on "wings of wax and hubris."
• Boards of Canada have a song entitled "Satellite Anthem Icarus" on their album "The Campfire Headphase." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.130.252.150 (talk) 23:13, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
• In the song "Lacrimosa" by Regina Spektor there is a reference to Icarus' fall.
• The Rock Band Kansas made a song called Icarus-Borne on Wings of Steel for their Masque Album in 1975
• The band It Dies Today has a song Titled " A Romance by the Wings of Icarus" on their EP Forever Scorned.
• In the manga and anime of Fullmetal Alchemist, Ed refers to Icarus as he tells Roze, "If you get too close to the sun, you burn."
• In the game Deus Ex, Icarus is a name of an AI that conjoins with Daedalus to form Helios.
• Cirque Du Soleil's Varekai is loosely based upon the myth.
• On the show Arrested Development Season 1 Buster says " Yes, I was flying, but a little to close to the sun".
• In the song "Worlds Apart" by Jars of Clay are the lyrics "soaring on the wings of selfish pride, I flew too high and like Icarus I collide, with a world I tried so hard to leave behind."
• There is a song called "Icarus" by Synthpop group Seabound.
• The song "No-One But You (Only The Good Die Young)" by the band Queen says "...Only the Good die young...They're only flying too close to the sun..." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jalapinioplayer (talk • contribs) 15:42, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
• There is a song called "Икар" ("Icarus") by Ария (Aria) from 1986 album "С кем ты?" ("Who Are You With?").
• Steve Hackett recorded a song called "Icarus Ascending" featuring Ritchie Havens on his album "Please Don't Touch." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.8.221 (talk) 11:24, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

Just to mention - project Icarus is an operation in a video game "Mirror´s Edge" http://mirrorsedge.wikia.com/wiki/Project_Icarus

I'm fairly convinced the song "Bird dreams of Olympus Mons" by seminal 80s rock band "The Pixies" is at least an impressionistic take on the Icarus legend, even if its only loosely. However I can't find a reference to it on the net :( Does anyone have any verification for or against this contention ? 124.178.179.96 (talk) 06:56, 3 May 2008 (UTC) -- Oh yeah, note Olympus mons is on *mars*, so when I say its an 'impressionistic take' I mean it. 124.178.179.96 (talk) 07:00, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Others might not agree, but I think the fact that the popular culture section is longer than the rest of the article indicates it should be cut, and a rule should be imposed to prevent the section from growing too long. 211.28.214.233 (talk) 07:31, 11 June 2008 (UTC)

This is just an idea, but Icarus is also alluded to in Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury. On page 113 of the 50th anniversery edition, Beatty tells Montag "Well," said Beatty, "now you did it. Old Montag wanted to fly near the sun and now that he's burnt his damn wings, he wonders why. Didn't I hint enough when I sent the Hound around your place?"Lemonhead112 (talk) 19:29, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

Removed from article

I removed the bit below from the References section because I couldn't see the relevance to the article (at least, as a reference)

• Adam Guettel, song, "Icarus", from Saturn Returns (recorded as Myths and Hymns)

EyeSerene^TALK 20:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Statue of Icarus

• There is a large statue of Icarus in the Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.96.65.83 (talk) 20:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Edit requests

Daedalus et Icarus - original Latin text by Ovid (text starts about halfway down the page) - dead link —Preceding unsigned comment added by B0gger (talk • contribs) 09:26, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

I think it should be noted that Bobby Jindal's behavior closely resembles that of Icarus. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.33.32.180 (talk) 18:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

 Not done Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Satirical is spelled incorrectly in the article - please correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.135.35 (talk) 21:36, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

 Done Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:30, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I propose adding a reference in Modern Music table: Artist: "Michael Jeffery", Title: "Farewell Icarus", Date: "2003", Album/Notes: "Farewell Icarus (song), copyright: 2003, Registration Number: SR000533096". Verifiable at www.copyright.gov —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mjeffery12 (talk • contribs) 17:45, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

 Not done Sorry, but you don't have an article yet on WP. Thanks! Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:27, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I propose adding a reference in modern music section: Artist: "The Forms", Title: "Icarus", Date: "2003", Album/Notes: "Icarus (album)", and linking it here JayEmerald (talk) 07:58, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I propose changing the link in the modern music section: Artist: "The Forms" to JayEmerald (talk) 06:21, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:16, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

Progressive Metal band Textures (band) reference Icarus in the track Laments of an Icarus on their album Silhouettes (album) 220.253.6.136 (talk) 05:08, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

 Done Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 22:23, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

I propose an addition to the musical references table: Counting Crows' song "Insignificant" (from the 2008 album Saturday Nights & Sunday Mornings) has the line "I am one in a million; I am Icarus falling out of the sun" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.138.19.45 (talk • contribs)

 Done Plastikspork _―Œ^(talk) 21:52, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

I propose an addition to the musical references table: Counting Crows' song "Hanging Tree" (from the 2008 album Saturday Nights & Sunday Mornings) has a reference to Icarus. This is in fact mentioned in the song's Wikipedia page:

As with the tracks "Sundays" and "Insignificant", imagery pertaining to the Greek myth of Icarus appears in the song, specifically in the lyric: "I got a pair of wings for my birthday and I’ll fall down through the sun this evening."

Perhaps the table should just say that that album contains several references to Icarus, rather than listing each one seperately. Anneagain (talk) 06:40, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

I propose adding the following song to the modern music list: Artist:William Fitzsimmons, Song:The Problem of Pain, Album:Until When We Are Ghosts Year:2005, Reference:Icarus they caught you where you tumbled on. Encourage you to dive now the sun is gone.

The song "Sid Icarus" by Machinae Supremacy, featured on the album Overworld which was released in 2008, should be added to the list of song references in modern music. The song has lots of references to the Icarus legend, hence the name.

Artist: Alan Parsons Song: Too Close To The Sun Album: On Air Year: 1996 This song obviously is about Icarus even though it doesn't mention Icarus or Daedalus by name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elhoward (talk • contribs) 04:20, 17 March 2010 (UTC)