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April 4

Picture showing up in wrong section?

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St. Patrick's Catholic Church (Glynwood, Ohio) is composed of an intro, three content sections, and a references section. Some days ago, I added a picture to the second content section between the header and the text, but it inexplicably appears after the references section. It appears below the infobox, but that's not the problem — the infobox is on the right side of the page, but the picture is on the left. What's more, all of the edit-section links appear next to each other just to the right of the picture. Any idea what's going wrong? Nyttend (talk) 00:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Our old friend WP:BUNCH. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 00:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

It was due to the {{commonscat}} template being placed above the left-floated image. I've moved it and the images now seem to float correctly. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 00:42, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay, thanks; I normally put the commonscat where I'm supposed to, so I didn't think to check that. Nyttend (talk) 00:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Proposed merger has been completed --> delete the article

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 14:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The Waterloo Middle School article has been merged into Waterloo Central School District, which is the consensus of its proposed deletion discussion, which ended on 11 March 2010. Can an admin please delete the Waterloo Middle School article. Truthanado (talk) 00:53, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Completed. Nyttend (talk) 00:57, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response on my talk page. I guess I need a wikibreak from too much patrolling, I should have known I should just redirect the article. Truthanado (talk) 01:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Ribbons

I keep trying to award people ribbons, but all I get is a standard Template:xRibbon in red. What is the proper format for giving a ribbon?

You mean from WP:Ribbons? They are image files so standard image formatting should work:

[[File:Dilbarn rib.png]]

renders as

 – ukexpat (talk) 02:08, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

That's great! Thanks! Do you know how to modify the size parameter too? The files are large!

Image linking is explained at WP:IMAGE but briefly you add a size parameter with a pipe:

[[File:Dilbarn rib.png|25px]] gives . – ukexpat (talk) 03:05, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

WikepediaLiberia

How do I create WikepediaLiberia so that Liberians from all around the world would research and rewrite Liberian history? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lihede (talk • contribs) 02:03, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

There already is a Liberia WikiProject at Wikipedia:WikiProject Liberia. Is that what you were looking for? – ukexpat (talk) 02:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you want but note that the English Wikipedia here at http://en.wikipedia.org is the Wikipedia version for all articles written in the English language, regardless of the topic. English is apparently the official language of Liberia. You can find many Liberia-related articles by navigating from Category:Liberia. There is no "Liberian Wikipedia" because Liberia is a country and not a language. Countries don't get their own Wikipedia. The German Wikipedia is for all articles written in German and not restricted to articles about Germany, and similar for all others in List of Wikipedias. I'm also unsure what you mean by "rewrite" Liberian history. Wikipedia has articles with a neutral point of view based on published reliable and verifiable sources. If you think Liberian history is generally described incorrectly in the type of published sources that are usually trusted and you want to correct a great historical "wrong" by changing the published history to what you consider to be right then Wikipedia is not the place to rewrite history in its usual meaning. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:26, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Moving images

At some point in the not-too-distant past, apparently when I wasn't paying attention, it became possible to move images to new names, which is a good thing. Are there guidelines that should be followed here? Help:Moving a page doesn't seem to have much to say about it. In particular, is it a good idea to start giving images more descriptive names? Are there guidelines for filenames, or, say, the standardization of file extensions to lower-case? Should the old filenames be kept as redirects indefinitely, even after all references to the file have been changed to the new name? —Bkell (talk) 03:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

There is no documentation on this as far as I know, and I looked in the past. The only page I know that speaks to the issue is Wikipedia:Image file names but it is geared toward original naming, not whether once named, and long existing, we should take the step of moving. I guess surveying Category:Wikipedia files requiring renaming (placed by {{Rename media}}) will get you current practice. Most of the images in the category now appear to be because the file extension is incorrect. I personally think we should only bother with renames where the name is not helpful at all (File:09238409283094.jpg for example), or deceptive/non-neutral or to fix the file extensions, but not to find the perfect descriptive name. As for redirects, once all internal links to the image are fixed, I don't think we should keep the redirect. The main aim of redirects is so that users searching for a subject will reach the target they intend. Media files are outside that whole navigation area, and the only purpose I can see for keeping such redirects is so that an off-wiki link to a media file isn't broken—not something I think we should load up the encyclopedia with redirects to gird against, even if "redirects are cheap". Maybe a village pump discussion should take place?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 06:07, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Currently all requests fall into the categories "non-descriptive to descriptive", "incorrect to correct name" or "incorrect file extension". As such I have not deemed it necessary to have a discussion about this, but anyone is welcome to open one of course. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

partnering

what does partnering with wikipedia entail? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.215.224.86 (talk) 08:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

What would you hope from a partnership? Someguy1221 (talk) 08:43, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You might wish to directly write to the Wikimedia Foundation. Before that, you could steal a look at what is the Wikimedia Foundation all about. Thanks. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Football appearances and goals

Hi, I love to update footballers appearances. it does however take me forever.Is there a way to get the pages to automatically update the appearances and if so, how do you do it? Gobbleswoggler (talk) 10:15, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Um... programme a bot to do it? Kayau Voting IS evil 10:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

infobox creation

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 – Kayau Voting IS evil 11:07, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I have created an infobox following wikipedia guidelines, but something is wrong. Could anybody point out the mistake for me? Thanks -- Ashot  ^(talk) 10:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

What do you think has gone wrong? Gobbleswoggler (talk) 10:58, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The only mistake you made is that it's still in your userspace! ;) Of course it's not working that way. Kayau Voting IS evil 11:04, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Database Owner

Who normally has access to the Wikipedia database thus also has access to the LocalSettings.php, I would like to know as I am interested. Paul2387 13:01, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Editors are volunteers. Wikipedia is run by the Wikimedia Foundation and their paid developers have direct database access. See wmf:Staff. If you want to point out or request something then a place to do it may be Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) or https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/ (see Wikipedia:Bug reports and feature requests). Do you have something specific in mind? PrimeHunter (talk) 13:38, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

There may also be other people with shell access who have access to some things like LocalSettings.php. PrimeHunter (talk) 13:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

All relevant information is listed here: meta:System_administrators, though it might be a tad out of date. Some are volunteers, some are employees of the foundation. The primary responsobility of this work is carried by the foundation's Chief Technology Officer, which is currently Danese Cooper. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Image requested tag.

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What would be a suitable tag/template to add to an article which I believe would benefit greatly from the addition of relevant images ? &dorno rocks. (talk) 14:24, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The template {{Reqphoto}} can be placed on the talk page of the article to request a photo for the article. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 14:28, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Translation

I have created a page for MUNDP in English which also has a page in Turkish. I would like to combine them so that a person enters to one of the pages can change the language. How can I do that ?

Offspring31 (talk) 14:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Add the interlanguage link [[tr:MUNDP]] to the bottom of the English page and [[en:Model United Nations Development Programme]] to the Turkish page. If the page was translated then see also what Wikipedia:Translation says about {{Translated page}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 14:35, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

(e/c):I added interlanguage links to the pages. See diff1 and diff2. I also move the page to its full name, and added bolding to the article name. I would like to point out that you should add references to this article, or it might be deleted at some point. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. I have the references but I don't know how to do it. How will I do it ?

Offspring31 (talk) 15:17, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Add <ref>reference</ref> after each fragment of text and at the end of article place <references/>. Kubek15^{T CS} 15:19, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I added some links but I want to show as titles at the bottom not the links directly and I want them to be "links" not only a writing. How I can do that ?

Offspring31 (talk) 15:29, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Fixed that for you. See Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners for more help. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 15:45, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Now there is 2 references to the page. How many references needed to be sure that it will not be deleted and since the page exists also in Turkish, do I need to add references to the Turkish page too ?

Offspring31 (talk) 15:51, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

No, we don't use other Wikipedia sites or articles as references. It would help if you could find a third party source (e.g., a magazine or newspaper article) covering the conference. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 16:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I am asking that do I need to list the references (two links), that I listed in English site, to the Turkish page also ?

Offspring31 (talk) 16:44, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Each language Wikipedia has its own policies and styles, and we can only advise on the requirements for the English Wikipedia. If you speak Turkish, I advise you to consult their own pages on sources and referencing, or ask on their help desk.  Chzz  ►  22:47, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Temple_garment

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 02:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

This site is completely inappropriate. The temple garments are very sacred to us. This is a really offensive site and I would like to request that you remove it. This is not something that should be discussed out of the temple. This is disrespectful and REALLY not appreciated. Please have this removed ASAP! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.18.179.9 (talk) 15:09, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

To begin with Wikipedia is not censored. All articles that are of a notable subject should have an article on Wikipedia. This article is about a notable subject and is well sourced. I do not believe it will be deleted even if it is requested at the proper forum. ~~ GB fan ~~ ^talk 15:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

In case you wish to discuss issues with the article, please feel free to take the same up first with editors on the article's talk page. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

What's wrong?

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Hello. I made a new signature for me: it's <span style="text-shadow:aquamarine 0.118em 0.118em 0.118em; class=texhtml">'''[[User:Kubek15|<font color="green">Kubek15</font>]]''' ^{[[User talk:Kubek15|<font color="red">write</font>]]/[[User:Kubek15/G|<font color="black">sign</font>]]</span>} and looks like this: Kubek15 ^write/sign and everything is OK. But when I paste it in 'my preferences' in 'signature', I get 'There are problems with some of your input' and 'Invalid raw signature. Check HTML tags.'. Could you tell me what is wrong and could you help me with fixing it? Thanks in advance, Kubek15^{T CS} 15:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Swap the ending </span> and </sup> so one is completely inside the other. PrimeHunter (talk) 15:30, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much! Kubek15 ^write/sign 15:32, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia 2010 April Fool Item

In looking up "April Fool" today , I was disappointed not to find a reference to your 2010 item re the Japanese company having transported customers to 1999 which later was taken off the news listing. I did not read the item at the time but would like to Can I access it somehow? TXS Peter —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.37.177.193 (talk) 16:12, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

You can look at the history of Template:In the news and find the appropriate version in the history (by clicking the "History" tab at the top). In this case the version you want is probably [1]. —Bkell (talk) 16:36, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

See also all related information collected here. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 18:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

It was as follows.  Chzz  ►  22:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

• A Japanese multinational conglomerate (headquarters pictured) investigates how some of its customers were accidentally sent back in time to the year 1999.

no title

What happened to the article that Wikipedia had on R.W. Shambach? It has dissappeared from your site, and want to know why? Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.185.134 (talk) 16:40, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Could you tell us what was the exact title of that article? Kubek15 ^write/sign 17:10, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The article may have got deleted through any of our deletion methods. An administrator would be able to give you more details. Regards, ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 18:23, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I found a deleted article called R.W. Schambach but it was very brief and only existed for 3 hours in 2007. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:54, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Also Rw schambach, deleted December 2008 "Copyright violation/self-promotion - copied from the person's official website"  Chzz  ►  22:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

That page existed for 7 minutes and was a copy of http://www.schambach.org/SM/RW/Bio.aspx which still has the same content. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Image question

Can somebody clarify for me, if this type of attribution is required here? We attribute on the image page, not the article space, no? Grsz¹¹ 18:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

It goes on the file page. –Turian (talk) 19:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Normally... I do believe however, that an author can specifically request this as part of his BY licensing. If we allow such images, I'm not sure, but I don't see why not. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 00:04, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I think even if it is requested by the license, the image info page is the place for it, not the article - see WP:CREDITS. I remove these as a matter of course and have never had an issue. – ukexpat (talk) 02:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

2 copies of a page, older one has less info

Hi there. I created 2010 Baja California earthquake about an hour ago. Then, while scouring the New Pages section, I saw 2010 Guadalupe Victoria earthquake. It's older, but it's got less info. Should I remove the speedy, or speedy the one I created? Buggie111 (talk) 23:58, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I would keep yours. Everywhere I have seen has it as the Baja Cali earthquake. –Turian (talk) 00:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I have redirected 2010 Guadalupe Victoria earthquake to 2010 Baja California earthquake. The last version of the former is here so sources can still be merged. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:15, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

April 5

WikiPetrol

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 02:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I have very keen interest in petroleum and drilling engineering, and the management of energy companies. (Unusual and odd, I know.) Is there any WikiProject(s) associated with these interests?--LastLived 01:38, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Will chemicals and energy do? Kayau Voting IS evil 01:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The Oil Megaprojects task force of the Energy project might also interest you. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 01:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

(e/c*2) WikiProjects generally deal with broad topics, rather than the narrower topics you describe. I suggest checking out WikiProject Energy and WikiProject Companies to see if they meet your interests. Sometimes, a WikiProject will have a "subproject" or "task force" dedicated to a narrower topic -- check the project pages for this as well. If neither of those projects sufficiently cover your interests, consider taking a look at the talk page of an article that deals with a topic you are interested in. Editors that have tagged the article as being "of interest" to a WikiProject will usually place a template notifying others of this fact at the top of the talkpage. Xenon54 / talk / 01:53, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

As for Kayau, yes it will do!--LastLived 01:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

We especially need more images: photographs of energy-related equipment, maps, charts, and diagrams. See Commons:Category:Petroleum, Commons:Category:Oil, and Commons:Category:Peak oil. For example, a chart like: File:Alaska Oil Production 1975 to 2005.png needs to be updated, and converted to SVG which you could do with a program such as Gnuplot. Some energy articles are undeveloped in relation to the scope of their topics, such as Petroleum in the United States, which needs a lot more content as the US is the world's largest importer and consumer of petroleum, and has arguably been central to the development of the modern petroleum industry. There is no Natural gas in the United States article yet. But before making heavy edits, first see List of energy topics to get the "lay of the land" on our energy topics. --Teratornis (talk) 20:25, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

NPOV for fictional characters?

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 – Kayau Voting IS evil 05:35, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I always see people putting up non-neutral adjectives like clever, lazy, or unwise on articles about fictional characters. Is that acceptable? Kayau Voting IS evil 02:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes, if they are supported by reliable sources that discuss the character. – ukexpat (talk) 02:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Even a primary source? Kayau Voting IS evil 03:26, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Secondary sources such as reviews of the fictional work. – ukexpat (talk) 03:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Read our policy on this >> WP:ASF ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:23, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

"Edit" links to wrong page

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 – ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I was going to edit the template at the bottom of this page, but for some reason, instead of sending me to the Threshold template edit page, it sent me to Judas Priests instead. No idea how to fix this --Repner1 (talk) 02:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The |name = parameter was incorrect in the template; it's now fixed. – ukexpat (talk) 02:57, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Great. Thanks ukexpat :) --Repner1 (talk) 04:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Is there a List of logged in users with idle-time less than 40minutes?

The headline says it all.
If yes, then is there also one showing administrators only?
--Seren-dipper (talk) 02:47, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Special:ListAdmins shows all admins. Kayau Voting IS evil 03:22, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Seren, why would you want to know the 40 minute idle time stuff? ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

In any case there isn't. Prodego ^talk 05:19, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Is there a list of all currently logged in users then? (disregarding idletime). Or may I at least find out whether one specific user is currently logged in or not? (With or without idle time).
(This would be useful when I am cooperating with someone on developing an article!)
--Seren-dipper (talk) 05:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Some users update their status on their userpage. Others don't. See mine for an example. (though I never bother to update it.) Kayau Voting IS evil 05:57, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry Seren, only checkusers can see log on and log off time. Otherwise, by clicking on user contributions, you could easily find out whether the particular user is editing around that particular time or not. For example, the link Special:Contributions/Wifione links up to my contributions. You could replace my name with any user's name and get an idea. The link 'user contributions' is generally given on the left vertical menu bar. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 07:06, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Sienna Miller

Why is it that Jude Law cheating with the nanny has anything to do with why Sienna Miller is "notable as an actress". It made her more famous so it's worth posting here? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agentkelton (talk • contribs) 03:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The talk page of the relevant article(s) is the place to discuss this. – ukexpat (talk) 03:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

And to help you, here's the talk page of the Sienna Miller article. Regards ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:13, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Problems with the Pirates of the Caribbean template

It seems that last two rows of the template[2] refused to display themselves properly.--PCPP (talk) 13:08, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

That's because {{Navbox with columns}} only allows for six lists underneath the columns. You could a) ask to have that template expanded to allow more lists; b) use a different navbox template that doesn't use the columnar format (which is used for the four films in this case); or c) find a way to use just 6 lists. Powers ^T 13:49, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

source tag

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 –  – ukexpat (talk) 21:02, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

How can I use the <source>{{{1}}}</source> wiki tag in a template? I tried to use it but the {{{1}}} was copied without processing or passing the argument.--Email4mobile (talk) 13:46, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Where is the template? Kayau Voting IS evil 13:56, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

The template is in the Arabic Wikipedia, still in progress. The aim was to reduce complexity of the language names and add some Arabic names bside (Arabic is distinguished from right to left which causes some difficulties during editing. I think it will be easier to give you the equivalent source code here, whichever easier you can check:

Assume the Template syntax: {{source|lang|code}}

{{#switch: {{{1}}}
| html4strict
| ويب =
<source lang="html4strict">{{{2}}}</source>
| بيسك
| كيوبيسك
| basic
| qbasic=<source lang="qbasic">{{{2}}}</source>
| سي
| c
| c=<source lang="c">{{{2}}}</source>
| #default <source lang="html4strict">{{{2}}}</source>
}}

Thanks.--Email4mobile (talk) 17:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

You can't include variables inside extension tags unless you use the #tag magic word. Try:

{{#tag:source|lang="html4strict"|{{{2|}}} }}

---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 19:37, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much :) --Email4mobile (talk) 20:50, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia Mobile

I find a lot of actual editing power is lost when using the existing iPhone Application, but does any Wikipedia technician have plans to build a lossless experience iPad Application? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iceman444k (talk • contribs) 14:07, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea about that. I suspect if other editors out here would have too... ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 02:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Centered caption

How do I center a caption under an image thumbnail? Dr. Kamarei (talk) 14:41, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

<center>caption text</center>. – ukexpat (talk) 14:57, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

My page not visable

Hi,

I just created my page for Rest2U, and when I saved the page it says that "when you save hte page it will be visible for all others". But after I saved it, I can not se it when I search in Wikipedia.

What can the problem be ?

BR BirgerRest2U AB Birger (talk) 16:30, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

User:Rest2U AB Birger was deleted per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G11. See Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Fair-use license questions

I am going to upload a file that is a screenshot of the title screen of a computer game. I don't know what to put in each of these fields:

|Source            = 
|Portion           = 
|Low_resolution    = 
|Purpose           = 
|Replaceability    = 
|other_information =

Help, please. The directions were unclear. 2D Backfire Master ^{¿Por que,señor?} 16:31, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you read the documentation at Template:Non-free use rationale? --Mysdaao ^talk 18:59, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Unrequested Password request?

Is there anything useful to do (e.g., send the originating IP or email to Wikipedia) when receiving a password reset which was not requested? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.110.153.182 (talk) 18:01, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, no. It's a prank that's been going on for a few months and can safely be ignored. Your password is in no way affected. TNXMan 18:03, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Vanishing footnotes using Microsoft word

I am trying to transfer a text in Microsoft Word, including endnotes and citations, on the place where it may be submitted to Wikipedia. I did so by copying and pasting the document. To my horror when it appeared all of the endnotes had been stripped away as had all the endnote numbers in the "notes" section of the article, and all of the bold letters.

Is there some trick to transfering a word document, complete with notes, into the Wilipedia program? What am I missing.

Elkmilok (talk) 19:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Microsoft Word's document format is not inherently compatible with MediaWiki, the software that runs Wikipedia. MediaWiki uses a markup language very different from Word's formatting codes. If you want to compose text in Word, you should copy and paste it as plaintext, then add any formatting and citation markup manually within the MediaWiki edit window. Powers ^T 20:00, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Also note that if you are new to editing on Wikipedia, you may be choosing a path with low probability of success. If you are trying to edit a complete new article on Wikipedia from scratch, be aware that Wikipedia deletes thousands of new articles for a variety of reasons. See WP:NOT, WP:YFA, WP:LAYOUT, WP:NOTABLE, WP:V, WP:FOOT, and WP:RS - until you are familiar with the instructions on at least those pages, you will be lucky to write a new article here that "sticks". A more reliable approach to Wikipedia is to start by editing existing articles first, and see what happens to your edits, while you read the manuals to understand what other editors are doing. --Teratornis (talk) 20:10, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Assuming we are talking about Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Gustavus Sidenberg, this was declined, as you didn't provide much in the way of sources other than his obituary in the N.Y. Times, which is not in and of itself very much of an assertion of notability. What made this guy noteworthy enough to have his own entry in Wikipedia? --Orange Mike | Talk 20:33, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

suicide bombings list

This list is wildly inaccurate - under reporting massively. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.53.153.64 (talk) 21:42, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia has many pages with lists of suicide bombings in different areas and periods. Which one are you referring to? It may have stated or unstated criteria for which suicide bombings to include. If the page name starts with "Category" then it is not considered a list but a category and categories only contain links to subjects with their own page. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:55, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Removal of Primarysources box

I have been working on the Central Bank and Trust page, trying to clean it up to be in compliace with the Primarysources box listed on that page. When will that box be removed, or are there still issues with the references given? Can I just delete it? Can someone please point me in the right direction? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Josuenielson (talk • contribs) 21:54, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Any user or IP can remove page maintenance tags if they feel that the article issue(s) in question has been resolved. If you feel that you have resolved the issue feel free to remove the tag. Jeffrey Mall (talk • contribs) - 22:09, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

And please explain why you are removing it, either in your edit summary or on the talk page. – ukexpat (talk) 01:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Might I suggest Josuenielson, kindly do not remove primary sources which provide non-controversial information (like the bank's location, etc). An article should not be made up of only primary sources, but that does not mean that you should delete all primary sources from any article. Please read our guidelines on verifiability of sources and reliability of sources. Give marked attention to the usage of primary, secondary (and tertiary) sources. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 03:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Almonte -- Re the Almonte Train Disaster

There is a link in the Summary section of the Almonte Train Disaster about "personal recollections" that is not correct. It goes to my blog but not the correct post. This is the correct link: http://theretirededucator.com/?p=92 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.226.94.133 (talk) 21:58, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I fixed the link.[3] PrimeHunter (talk) 22:45, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Import XML dump

Resolved

 – JPMcGrath (talk) 12:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I am looking for a mechanism to apply edits to pages from a Special:Export XML dump file. What I am looking for is not the same as Special:Import, which is oriented toward importing pages with revision histories from other wikis. What I want is to take the page text from the XML dump for each page and apply it as an edit to the page it was created from.

The use case I have in mind is as follows:

• Use Special:Export to download a number of pages (most recent revision only) as an XML file.
• Modify the text of the pages in the XML file, using whatever tools are appropriate.
• Apply the changes back to the Wiki from the modified XML files.

Is such a tool available? -- JPMcGrath (talk) 22:31, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Might I suggest you post your query at either of the two links (the first one being more preferable)? You'll get faster responses surely.

• Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)

• Wikipedia:Reference desk/Computing

In case you still fail to get a response, leave a new note out here and we'll see what can be done. Best. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try the Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). I thought of that first, but then decided this was more appropriate, in case such a tool already existed. -- JPMcGrath (talk) 12:35, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Jump button?

Would it be possible to add a Jump to the Top button on the bottom of each page? It would be handy, frequently, to be able to get back up to where the search button is, in a hurry. TIA for any assistance. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.255.241 (talk) 23:27, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

This would certainly be possible, but since most keyboards have a "home" button which does the exact same thing, i don't think many people will appreciate the extra interface clutter. —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 23:36, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Does your keyboard have a "Home" key which does this in your browser? I don't think a link is needed for everybody but users with an account may be able to do something optional in their account settings to get such a link when they are logged in. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I have a Home key but for some reason it seldom does anything. Thanks for answering, anyway.76.177.255.241 (talk) 01:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The home key will probably only work if the focus is in the client area of the browser, and not in the address bar, search field, or some other area. Try clicking on the client area, not within a field or edit box, and then press the home key. -- JPMcGrath (talk) 02:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

If there is a '7' on the Home key (your keyboard may have another Home key without a '7') then the Home function will only be activated when Num lock is in the right state. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

April 6

Refering 2 references

Hello. I have a copy of Chevron's 2008 Annual Shareholders' Report. I plan to refer to it numerous times while editing the article. How do I do the process of citing the same reference throughout an article? In the article, mine is reference #15, and I'd like to connect it to the paragraph concerning my recent edit about Chevron's withdraw of investment in Dynergy Inc.--LastLived 00:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

So this is your ref?

<ref>Chevron Corporation ''2008 Annual  Shareholders' Report.''</ref>

If so, you will want to give it a name such as:

<ref name="Shareholders">Chevron Corporation ''2008 Annual  Shareholders' Report.''</ref>

Then, each time you want to cite the same source, use this:

<ref name="Shareholders" />

That should help. :) –Turian (talk) 00:09, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

(edif conflict) If you want the text in the reference to be identical each time it is used and not contain differences such as page numbers then see Wikipedia:Footnotes#Reference name (naming a ref tag so it can be used more than once). PrimeHunter (talk) 00:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

as a suggestion how about referencing this link [4] followed by the page number.--intraining ^{Jack In} 00:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the replies! I'll stick with my physical copy--LastLived 00:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

If you want to cite the same report, but different page numbers, consider using shortened footnotes - see CITESHORT. -- JPMcGrath (talk) 02:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Table Coloring

how do you go about coloring the word boxes on graphs? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faroran (talk • contribs) 02:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Could you be a little more specific? Are you referring to tables on Wikipedia? If so, Help:Tables may have the answer you need. TNXMan 02:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I am not sure what you mean by "graphs". Did you mean tables? If so, see help:Table#Color; scope of parameters. -- JPMcGrath (talk) 02:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I see you have colored text and cell backgrounds in a table at User:Faroran after posting here, so I guess your question is resolved. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:12, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

joining a Discussion and the quadruple tilde

(1) How do I join a discussion? (2) What do you mean by placing a quadruple tilde at the end of a post? —Preceding unsigned comment added by RobertMFriedman (talk • contribs) 02:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You can join any discussion by posting on the appropriate page, much as you have done here. The quadruple tilde is the method of signing your posts to discussions. You'll notice that your question was automatically signed by Sinebot, an automatic program that fills in signatures for people who forgot. So a ~~~~ produces my signature, thusly: TNXMan 02:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Therefore, you could take a minute off and go through our guideline on why and how you should place your signatures. Thanks. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 03:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

And as an added note, for joining a discussion, you need to click on the 'edit' or 'discussion' button given at either the top of every page, or at the start of each section where you might wish to join discussions. Try going through the following three links to get a quick idea of what is the concept of 'talk' and 'discussions' on Wikipedia. Wikipedia:Discussion page, Help:Introduction to talk pages, Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. Write back for any further help. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 03:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Dynamic IP

Is there any way to, by using the linked RIR tools, to determine if an IP address is a dynamic or not?  A p3rson ✉ 03:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

A p3rson, it's clear that you're trying to contribute positively to Wikipedia. I'm assuming good faith here. Given that, in what way would knowing the dynamic nature of IP addresses add to your contributions on Wikipedia? In any case, if you wished to find out about the dynamic nature of other users' ip addresses, that's not possible. Only checkuser have this right. If you're interested, go through IP address#Static vs dynamic IP addresses. Thanks. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 03:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. --White Trillium (talk) 04:22, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Prior WIkipedia Entries

Will someone please answer why prior Wikipedia entries are not able to be used as a verifiable source?

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agentkelton (talk • contribs) 03:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia can not be used as a source because anyone can change 99.8025% of it. This is why Wikipedia has to have external sources. --The High Fin Sperm Whale 04:02, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

See WP:RS. We are supposed to use secondary sources rather than primary or tertiary sources. Wikipedia is a tertiary source. However, every Wikipedia article is supposed to cite its own secondary sources, so you could cite those if you wrote another article that contained some of the same material. See WP:SUMMARY, WP:SPLIT, and WP:MERGE - generally we should not have two articles that are substantial duplicates of one another. --Teratornis (talk) 05:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Basically, it's circular reasoning. For example, let's say that someone changes the Pope's article to say that he has a pet monkey. Then that person creates a list of people who own monkeys and uses the Pope's article as a source, then we'd be saying that it's true because we said so. What is needed is a verifiable source outside of Wikipedia to confirm it. And if you have that in the first article, then there's no reason not to use that same source in the second article. Dismas|^(talk) 09:49, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Agentkelton, you should read the ubiquitous Wikipedia:General disclaimer to understand why we consider Wikipedia an unreliable source. At the same time, do go through Category:Wikipedia as a media source to see all the pages that list sites, books, newspapers, media organisations that have cited Wikipedia as a source in the past. Maybe that helps... ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Also, could you please take a minute off and read our guideline on why (and how) you should be signing off correctly after leaving statements on discussion forums in Wikipedia... Thanks ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 12:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit filters "Hidden from public view"

Why are certain edit filters "hidden from public view"? My best guess falls under the idea that, if exposed, circumvention would be easier, but that argument falls apart when it comes to things like "Common Vandalism" (285), "Common Vandal Phrases" (260), and "Replacing a page with obscenities" (12). Sure, really smart vandals could read the filter and carefully slide around it, but the edit filters, by my understanding, are there to catch the casual vandal, along with prevention of extended vandalism attacks from a wide range of IPs.

Also, what's the reasoning behind edit filters targeted at individual users? Riffraffselbow (talk) 08:39, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You're right that it's security through obscurity, but that's not something which is likely to change soon by the looks of things. Edit filters targeted as specific editors are there to help mitigate the damage done by long-term abusers (you'd be amazed how persistent some people are). Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Line Spacing

When text includes formulae with subscripts and superscripts the lines are too close together (see the article on chondrodite). How can I set a larger line spacing?
Strickja (talk) 08:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate you pointing out which article you are referring to. Though when asking editors to see an article for an example, it's polite to link the article name to make it easier for them to see what you're talking about. I've done that for you here. Thanks, Dismas|^(talk) 09:43, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Line spacing can be overridden by using raw HTML to mark up the whole paragraph in question and using CSS styling, but that should only be done if it's unavoidable. In the case of the chondrodite article, a better solution would be to move all of the inline formulae into a bulleted list or else to remove them entirely, as the exact formulae of all minerals in the humite group is probably unnecessary detail for the article prose. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 10:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Line spacing can be browser dependent. Chondrodite looks OK in my Firefox 3.6.2 but I agree that a bulleted list would be better for these formulae. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:05, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The Wikipedia style sheets have rules to adjust the line height for improved readability with superscript and subscript text. Internet Explorer has problems with the line-height CSS property. This issue appears to be resolved in IE8. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk 12:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Replacement of images

How do I up-date/replace images that have been uploaded to a page with better quality ones? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallyannewilliamson (talk • contribs) 10:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Why, upload a new one, of course. Then add it to the page. Kayau Voting IS evil 10:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You can find instructions at Help:Upload. But I'd like to clear up something before any more confusion creeps in. When you upload an image, you aren't uploading it to the specific article that you'll be using it in. Files are uploaded to Wikipedia in a general sense. Then code is placed in the article which displays that image. For instance, this image of Pope Benedict XVI is used in the Pope Benedict XVI article but it's also used in several other articles such as Head of state and Dominus Iesus to name just two. Dismas|^(talk) 10:32, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You can upload images to the English Wikipedia in two days when your account becomes autoconfirmed. If the license allows it then you can upload images to Wikimedia Commons at http://commons.wikimedia.org right away and use the images in the English Wikipedia. PrimeHunter (talk) 10:58, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Did I do this move request correctly?

Resolved

 –  – ukexpat (talk) 19:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I've been working on a page User_talk:Salimfadhley/Frank_Key which I wanted to move into the mainspace in order to invite colaborations with other editors who are interested in this topic. According to the page moving documentation, simply adding the move template to the discussion page should be enough to add the page to main page move discussion, however this appears not to have been the case. Did I do it correctly? What exactly is going wrong here? --Salimfadhley (talk) 12:09, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Normally it would be added within an hour. But it seems that RM bot, the bot that updates Wikipedia:Requested moves, has stopped for some reason yesterday and has not yet resumed. It'll be added when the bot starts running again. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 12:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

There's no need to use the RM process for moves which should be uncontroversial, such as promoting pages from userspace. Personally, rather than going through RM I'd just have moved the page myself. That said, the move request is now open, so might as well allow it to finish. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Chris, I'm not sure that I have the power. My account is not sufficiently authenticated to be able to move pages. I'm not sure why that is, since I've been a Wikipedia user for a very long time. I understood that most users get the power to move pages after being a member in good-standing for more than 90 days. Might I have slipped through a loop-hole in the authentication system? --Salimfadhley (talk) 16:46, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, it's 10 edits and 4 days. Since you have made 679 edits in nearly six years, you certainly ought to have the 'move' tab. I don't know why you haven't. --ColinFine (talk) 20:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I went ahead and moved it - it was clearly ready for mainspace and therefore non-controversial. It's pointless cluttering up WP:RM with easy ones. It's now at Frank Key and the redirect from userspace has been tagged for speedy deletion. – ukexpat (talk) 16:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, issue is now closed! --Salimfadhley (talk) 17:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Fair Use Part 2

Now that I've uploaded a file, I've received a notice stating the picture is too big to be reasonably used. What size should the screenshot be to comply with the{{reduce}} notice? 2D Backfire Master ^{nautical refuse} 12:53, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Fair use is a case-by-case issue, so nothing meaningful can be said without links to the image and the article in which it is used. I would think that if a screenshot consists of text, the issue would be the amount and nature of the text, and the number of pixels in the image would be irrelevant. Jc3s5h (talk) 13:18, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

The screenshot in question is this. It is virtually irreplaceable; what's wrong with it? 2D Backfire Master ^{nautical refuse} 13:23, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Half the current size should be okay. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 13:30, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

What is the correct procedure to show that this image is being used properly (legally)

I'm working on a number of articles about the UK DIY-press movement in the 80's. These were the days of early DTP and roughly photocopied zines. Some of the editors and writers of these long out of print books have given me copies of the old books for the purposes of archival. Hence' I've produced scans like this: [5]

The advert is for a long out of print book written by a notable UK writer & musician. The artist who made the advert was a different person than the author of the book. The publisher (Malice Aforethought Press) went bankrupt in the mid '90s. The person whose name appears on the advert Mr. Byrne is a friend who originally supplied me with one of the few remaining copies of the book so that I could scan & archive the content.

I have been keeping an archive of these images on my own Flickr account for the last few years with the support of the original authors + publishers. They are happy for me to re-license these images under a CC-BY license.

So, can I just upload these images to Commons? --Salimfadhley (talk) 13:27, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Please communicate the consent of the copyright owners to "permissions" by following the process set out at WP:IOWN. – ukexpat (talk) 16:48, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Account Retrieval

Hello My name is Vanja Sorokin, I created a wikipedia page for my self awhile ago but my account was hacked, i was wondering how i can get my account back or deleted, will it be deleted automatically after a period of inactivity? the username is Vanja_sorokin, also here is a link to thae article can that page be deleted as there is nothing on it to begin with but it has my name heres the link to the page, any help is greatly appreciated, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Vanja_sorokin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.18.143.172 (talk) 13:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

No, it will not. Not a single user is deleted from Wikipedia. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

What makes you think the account was hacked? Special:Contributions/Vanja sorokin shows no edits since the day you created your user page. Many users forget their password. If you don't know the password and no longer have access to the email address stored by the account then you cannot retrieve the account. A new password has been sent to the registered address but I don't know whether it will reach you. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Highlighting text

I have been unable to find out how I might go about highlighting text. I wish to edit some tables by making certain coloured highlights - eg. highlighting certain names in a yellow colour. How would I do this? Your assistance in this matter would be much appreciated. --Mrodowicz (talk) 13:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Comment - I don't know how, but I doubt if it will be necessary. Where is the WikiTable? Is it a template? Kayau Voting IS evil 14:03, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

New ref-system

Hi! I don't be sure did I understand the new references system, so can someone check that this article is now correct?-Henswick (talk) 14:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Since there is a source listed, I've declined the prod nomination. If you have other questions as you expand the article, please let me know. TNXMan 14:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Henswick's reference is acceptable, although more complete bibliographic details about the web site would be better. It could be written according to any style guide between the <ref> and </ref> tags.

This prod nomination by User:NuclearWarfare was incorrect in that the movies named in the filmography are themselves references, even though they are not marked with the <ref> element. What is important is that references be present; the manner of marking them up is a matter of style, not substance. Jc3s5h (talk) 16:38, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Eh, I am not sure that a list of movies really counts as a reference. But I will refer such articles to AfD in the future rather than tagging it with the prod template. NW (Talk) 20:29, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Deleting files

I uploaded a new file, but now I realized that you don't need to make an entirely new file to update an old one. Plus, the new file looks terrible. How do I nominate my own files for deletion? 2D Backfire Master ^{nautical refuse} 14:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Just add {{db-g7}} to the top of the page. If you can do it right now, I can delete them for you. TNXMan 14:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

How do I stop the text from moving in the edit box?

When I open the edit box to edit a page, the text starts moving down the page, one line moves every time I type a character. This makes it very difficult to edit, and only started happening in the last 2 weeks. How do I keep the text in the edit box fixed, like it used to be? Saltwood (talk) 15:01, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

This sounds like a problem with your browser (or your external editor, if you are using one). I don't think it's anything to do with Wikipedia. --ColinFine (talk) 20:56, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

These two help-desk threads, and the Village Pump threads linked in the latter one, contain some information. For what it's worth, this problem started (intermittently) for me when I switched from Windows 6 to Windows 7. Deor (talk) 21:47, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Confirmation

Dear Sir/Madam The purpose of this question is about the situation in upcoming election in Sudan, Is it possible for a Sudanese who he/she staying uproad to vote during the election thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.139.129.86 (talk) 15:21, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 15:22, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Template mis-sorting categories

Please help {{Cathead Education by country}} is sorting Category:Education in Georgia (country) into the disambiguation category Category:Georgia. Can anyone fix this? —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 16:30, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

when will my article be searchable

i uploaded an article last night and wonder when it will show up on the search index? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deadlinedd (talk • contribs) 16:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Within a couple of days, maybe one. See Help:Searching#Delay in updating the search index. You should also manually add a link to Jonathan Jackson. PrimeHunter (talk) 17:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I have moved it to Jonathan Jackson (activist) - no need for "businessman" in the disambiguation. – ukexpat (talk) 17:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Accessdate working/not working?

Resolved

 – --BelovedFreak 20:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm working on Body piercing and can't figure out what I'm doing wrong with the refs, but some of my accessdate sections are not rendering. Here's some examples:

Extended content

Not working: {{cite news |title=World's Most Pierced Woman Adds to Her Collection |date=23 February 2009 |work=[[The Daily Telegraph]] |accessdate=15 December 2009 }} "World's Most Pierced Woman Adds to Her Collection". The Daily Telegraph. 23 February 2009. {{cite news}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help) Working: {{cite news |title=3,000 Piercings as 9/11 Tributes |date=7 September 2004 |work=[[Daily Times (Pakistan)|Daily Times]] |url=http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_7-9-2004_pg9_4 |accessdate=6 December 2009 }} "3,000 Piercings as 9/11 Tributes". Daily Times. 7 September 2004. Retrieved 6 December 2009. Not working: {{cite journal |first=Levin |last= Liran |title=Alveolar Bone Loss and Gingival Recession Due to Lip and Tongue Piercing |journal=N Y State Dent J |volume=73 |issue=4 |pages=48–50 |year=2007 |month=June |pmid=17891882 |doi= |url= |accessdate=16 July 2008 }} Liran, Levin (2007). "Alveolar Bone Loss and Gingival Recession Due to Lip and Tongue Piercing". N Y State Dent J. 73 (4): 48–50. PMID 17891882. {{cite journal}}: |access-date= requires |url= (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help) Working: {{cite journal |last = Yehuda | first = Zadik |coauthors= Sandler Vadim |title=Periodontal Attachment Loss Due to Applying Force by Tongue Piercing |journal=J Calif Dent Assoc |volume=35 |issue=8 |pages=550–553 |year=2007 |month=August |pmid=17941300 |doi= |url=http://www.cda.org/page/Library/cda_member/pubs/journal/jour0807/zadik.pdf |format=PDF|accessdate=16 July 2008 }} Yehuda, Zadik (2007). "Periodontal Attachment Loss Due to Applying Force by Tongue Piercing" (PDF). J Calif Dent Assoc. 35 (8): 550–553. PMID 17941300. Retrieved 16 July 2008. {{cite journal}}: Unknown parameter |coauthors= ignored (|author= suggested) (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)

Usually, I find these are PEBKAC issues, so I trust it's my fault. But I can't see it. Help? --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Is it because there's no url filled in? Maybe cite news needs a url filled in to show the accessdate? edit: because the accessdate is for the url anyway right? In case of broken links further down the line?--BelovedFreak 18:40, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

That could be it! It worked in these examples, anyway. Thanks. :) I'll try it out in the article and see if it gets them all. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 18:51, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Worked perfectly. Thank you for sharing your genius. :D Fortunately the journal articles were still accessible online, though they've been in the article for a while. --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 19:33, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah, good - glad to be of service! --BelovedFreak 20:06, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Script to display revision number

Every version of every page has a unique revision number. Several times in the past I've felt it would be handy to display (or have the option to display) this version number in page histories, the revision number of each version in diffs, etc. I suppose I could go into more detail why this would be useful if someone is curious, but the crux of my question is: Does anyone know of a script that does this? --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:41, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I haven't checked, but anything useful listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts/Scripts? – ukexpat (talk) 19:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, should have mentioned I already looked. I didn't see anything in the descriptions that lead me to think they would do it. I suppose I could load some of the more promising ones and see if they do it and just don't brag about it... --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:26, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Table alignment

How can I center the numbers in the two last columns in my table? Clarityfiend (talk) 19:17, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Add

|style='text-align:center'

at the front of each cell to be centred, like this:

|-
| Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
| The Beatles
| 1967
|style='text-align:center'| 1
|style='text-align:center'| 19

I don't know a way in Mediawiki to centre the whole column in one go (you can in HTML, but I don't think Mediawiki will take not of it). --ColinFine (talk) 21:07, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:09, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Disambiguation pages

Can disambiguation pages be put in categories? Immunize (talk) 19:31, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

There is a Category:Disambiguation; is that what you mean? If you mean to add a category (oops, I meant) disambiguation page to one or more of the categories already containing the articles linked from the disambiguation page, I'm having trouble thinking of an example where that would be productive. Do you have a specific example in mind? --Teratornis (talk) 20:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Acute leukemia (disambiguation) into the category:Acute leukemia. Immunize (talk) 22:11, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I've run across some, usually with Category:Surnames (e.g. Aida (disambiguation)). I suspect it's frowned upon, but haven't found a policy against it yet. Clarityfiend (talk) 02:14, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

You might ask on Wikipedia talk:Categorization or Wikipedia talk:Disambiguation; if it hasn't been discussed before, maybe someone will discuss it now. Maybe you have found an edge case of disambiguation pages where all topics are related. Many if not most disambiguation pages contain links to unrelated articles that coincidentally have a word in common, and thus would not all naturally fit into the same category. However, Wikipedia:Disambiguation dos and don'ts says:

• Disambiguation pages are not articles – they are navigation aids!

which some people might interpret to mean they do not belong in content categories like articles do. I personally don't have an opinion either way. However, before you spend any time editing something, it's nice to have a consensus guideline to support what you are doing; otherwise someone might revert your work. --Teratornis (talk) 08:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, I question weather Acute leukemia really should classify as a disambiguation page, as all of the links to articles it provides are about the same disease (acute leukemia). Immunize (talk) 21:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

But different articles. If you think the articles should be merged, that's a different matter. But, ALL and AML, for example, are not the same thing.--BelovedFreak 21:57, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Seeking source for listed data

Hello,

I read with great interest the WIki article on Restless Legs Syndrome: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restless_legs_syndrome

At the upper right of this page is a graph with the legend "Sleep pattern of a Restless Legs Syndrome patient (red) vs. a healthy sleep pattern (blue)." Can anyone help me find the source for this graph? I would imagine that it's a German medical article, but I can't find it.

Many thanks,

Ludwighamlet (talk) 19:32, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

From the commons page here, this is a self-created image ("Selbsterstellte Grafik") by Commons user Markus Mueller. Unfortunately, it looks like he hasn't been active at commons or de.wiki since 2007 and Oct 2009, respectively. Still, you could try to email him: [6] and ask about it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 19:57, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Floquenbeam -

Thanks for the help! Although I am a registered user, I am unable to find an email address for Mr. Mueller or to figure out how to send email to him. Any suggestions?

Many thanks.

Ludwighamlet (talk) 16:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Confusing answers on Helpme, can not find editor's comments

After submitting my article I was told to go to go to wikipedia&h32:articles for creation/gustavus Sidenberg. I have no idea where this is or how to find it.

So I went to helpme. Here I was told that to find the answer to my question I would to place the "templet" in my talk page. I have no idea what this means or how anyone goes about placing any templet anywhere.

There seems to be nothing new in my "my talk" or in 'My contributions."

The result is someone has put feedback on my article, but I have no idea where to find the comments. I am supposed to supply edits within 24 hours, but can not find any place that permits me to edit.

Look folks, all I wanted to do was to was place a simple three paragraph on Wikipedia. I thought it would help someone. What I have encountered is hours of grief floating an endless sea of computer double talk.

Is there no simple way I can communicate with who ever looked at my submission and find out what they think? I am very frustrated.Please help. Elkmilok (talk) 19:52, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

You seem to refer to User talk:Elkmilok#Your submission at Articles for creation which links to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Gustavus Sidenberg. Are you unable to follow that link? --Teratornis (talk) 20:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Creating new articles from scratch on Wikipedia is often difficult for people who don't have a lot of Wikipedia editing experience. That's because Wikipedia is unlike anything most people have used before, and therefore it is common for a new Wikipedia editor to assume incorrectly about what is appropriate for Wikipedia. I did this when I was new here; most everybody else here did too. It was only by some miracle that the first article I created on Wikipedia happened to survive, since I had little clue about Wikipedia's rules at the time. (Even with more experience, I've still accumulated 706 deleted edits - that is, 706 of my contributions to Wikipedia, which I thought might help somebody, were to pages that have since been deleted.) The main difference between Wikipedia and everything else is that here we do not share our knowledge so much as we share our sources. Wikipedia is not so much a compedium of knowledge as it is an aggregation and superior organization of knowledge reliably published elsewhere. That's probably the most critical thing for a new user to understand about Wikipedia, and difficult to grasp as well, because in ordinary discourse people rarely limit themselves to what they can source. --Teratornis (talk) 20:22, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

(edit conflict) Hi, Elkmilok, yes it can sometimes be hectic navigating around here for new editors. You can talk to the person who declined your request at their talk page; click on this blue link: User talk:Avs5221. You can ask for help on your own talk page (i.e. User talk:Elkmilok) by typing {{helpme}} (including the squiggly brackets) and your question on your talk page (someone will come along in a few minutes). Or you can go to Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Gustavus Sidenberg, address the concerns that Avs5221 raised, and then resubmit it. --Floquenbeam (talk) 20:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Back in 2009 I ....

Downloaded the "List of Musical Types" and made appropriate credits notes the GNU conventions at that time. I have made additions and adjustments to this list. How ought I resubmit the PDF version of this work for consideration. It does have just over 1300 listings across 47 pages. I view this an intermediate step to broadening this information both for the community ... and myself.

Peter Kelley St Paul, MN USA 71.220.53.125 (talk) 19:59, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you saying that you exported a load of articles as a PDF and have been editing that, and want to submit all your edits in one go as a PDF?

If that's the case, I don't think you can. In general the articles will have been edited in Wikipedia in the meantime, so if there were a way to update all the articles from a PDF, that would just blow away everybody else's changes to them.

You'll just need to edit the articles one by one like everybody else.

Or if I've misunderstood, and you mean something else, please clarify. --ColinFine (talk) 21:13, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Peter, you could go through our search link on various lists related to musical types that exist currently on Wikipedia. Feel free to edit them if you wish. Let me bullet out a few links that would help you.

• You could create an article list called List of musical types (click on the red link and start right away).
• However, you should read WP:Your first article for understanding how to create your first article.
• Try using the WP:Article wizard for a guided process.
• Do also read our notability guidelines for the standards that need to be met in case you wish to create new articles.
• Specific information on what qualifies as 'lists' can be found on WP:Lists.
• And to understand why you should not include documents you have yourself created, do please read our article on self published sources.
• Finally, You may wish to create an account if you do not already have one. Creating an account provides a number of benefits; in particular, your contributions are attributed to your username. See Help:Logging in for help with logging in to an existing account.

Did all this frighten you away? Don't worry, just start off and there'll be people to guide you along even if you make mistakes. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:09, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

In need of a template fixer...

Folks, I am looking for a more expert template fixer than I to turn Template:Table of Canon SLR into a properly formatted navbox template. Any volunteers, please? Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 20:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Would you want to leave a request at Wikipedia:Editor assistance/Requests? It might get a faster response. Best. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:51, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I doubt it (but I'll try) - it's pretty busy over there and Jez who is the main responder has his hands full. I think the Help Desk is patrolled by more editors - but thanks for the suggestion. – ukexpat (talk) 13:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Laserpacific

Hello:

I need to modify our page for Laser Pacific (or Laserpacific as described in your page). My group recently purchased the company from Kodak and would like to update our page.

I can be reached at <redacted>

Best regards,

Robert Nio CIO Laser Pacific —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.99.100.23 (talk) 21:14, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, but that would be a WP:COI. –Turian (talk) 21:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email this address.

Please take a look at WP:COI - your best option is to leave a message on the article's talk page suggesting, with references to reliable sources the changes that you think should be made to the article. – ukexpat (talk) 21:20, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

• Click on this link to leave a message on the talk page of LaserPacific. Also, you may wish to create an account if you do not already have one. Creating an account provides a number of benefits; in particular, your contributions are attributed to your username. See Help:Logging in for help with logging in to an existing account. Feel free to write back for help. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:46, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Redirects

 Done

Hi, what is the correct thing to do with a talkpage of a redirected article? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:John_Yettaw Housekeeping? Off2riorob (talk) 21:16, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

It depends. If the article was redirected to a brand new article, move the talk page too. If the article was redirected to an existing article, as part of a merge, AND if there is content on the talk page worth preserving, then I would leave a note on the target article's talk page saying something like "On (XXXX date), the article YYYY was redirected to this article. The discussion page of that article is located at Talk:YYYY" or some such. If the talk page has nothing substantive to preserve, then just redirect it too. --Jayron32 21:19, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. It was an existing article and perhaps editors at that article would like to reference any discussion for additions, so I have left them a note as you suggested. after a few weeks I will look back and redirect the talkpage also. Off2riorob (talk) 21:34, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

I think that's sensible. You could also make an archive later of the discussions that have taken place till date at the John Yettaw talk page, and include a link within the talk page of the destination article for later discussions. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

E-mail as a source

To obtain data, I sent an e-mail and received a response. How can I cite that in an article? --William Saturn (talk) 23:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Unpublished emails are not allowed as sources. Sources must have been published by a reliable source and be verifiable for others. There once was Template:Cite email but it was against policy and was deleted at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 April 19#Template:Cite email. If you cannot find a reliable published source then you have to leave out the data. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:45, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

It comes from a reliable source. It's a number value for the area of a certain feature, which I cannot find anywhere. --William Saturn (talk) 00:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It's not that the person who sent you the email needs to be reliable, but it needs to have been published in a reliable source. How do I, as a reader, know that you haven't just made it up? (I'm not suggesting you have, but I would need to be able to verify that myself).--BelovedFreak 00:07, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

So you believe it is better to just leave the surface area value blank? --William Saturn (talk) 00:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Since you have not stated what article this is about, it is hard to say how the article should be worded. If I didn't have a reliable, verifiable value for the surface area of something, I would just not mention surface area. Jc3s5h (talk) 00:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Who have you obtained the information from? You don't have to say exactly who, but what kind of person? How do they know? Have they independently measured the surface area of whatever it is, or have they themselves read it or published it somewhere? Is it Cibolo Creek? I don't really know what to suggest.--BelovedFreak 00:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes that is correct, and I obtained the data from the San Antonio River Authority. --William Saturn (talk) 00:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I presume, then, that the info is not available on their website or any published documents? Maybe you could try Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard or Wikipedia talk:Verifiability? I don't know, but someone there might have some ideas.--BelovedFreak 00:35, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

The figure I wanted to find was the surface area of the Cibolo Creek watershed. The answer given was 545,532.984922 acres. --William Saturn (talk) 00:37, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Nope. You can't quote emails you've received, even if the same is from a most reliable source. You could perhaps send the email to a reliable source and hope it gets printed... You could then include the details. I know, it's an elongated process, but that's how it is :) ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

April 7

A user's gender

I specified my gender at my user profile preferences. This kind of information is labelled as public, but I don't know how to identify the gender of any user who has specified that. How can I do this? Thanks. --Магьосник (talk) 00:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

The gender is used in templates, that's how it's public. Say if I give the Working Man's Barnstar to somebody, it would automatically change to Working Woman's if they specified that they are female. I think, anyway. SS✞^(Kay) 00:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Actually, the gender does not affect that barnstar (see {{Working Man's Barnstar}}, which specifies that a gender must be listed as part of the template in order to change the template). The gender option in your preferences is used on foreign language Wikipedia's where the language requires a gender specification. TNXMan 00:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I now know how to do it! I just have to add {{subst:The Working Man's Barnstar|message ~~~~|gender}} to someone's userpage and view the preview, without saving the changes. Thank you! --Магьосник (talk) 00:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

See also mw:Help:Magic words#Miscellaneous. You have set Gender as Male in Special:Preferences. I used {{gender:Theurgist|Male|Female|Unspecified}} to produce the result. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:01, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

insurance comapnies

why are not all of the us comapnies who sell insurance listed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.0.112.163 (talk) 00:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Basically, because Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a directory.--BelovedFreak 00:51, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

(e/c) It would help greatly if you gave us some context. I suppose your question might be about the article, List of United States insurance companies. If so, that list expressly states that it covers only "companies with strong national or regional presence". Note also that lists on Wikipedia should only contain links to already existing articles, and red links to articles that probably should be created—companies that are clearly notable but do not yet have articles. A list of all insurance companies in the U.S. would be quite vast and indiscriminate.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 00:59, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

But let that not stop you from adding the names of insurance companies you believe are worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia. Just remember to back and justify each addition with verifiable and reliable sources. Go ahead, have fun. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 03:52, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

But before you do that, please read WP:CORP and WP:FAQO. – ukexpat (talk) 13:34, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

writing about a new methodology

Dear Wikipedia-Team,

I have decided to pack all my experience and expertise in IT solution development in a new methodology. This will integrate many already existing methodologies, but also contain many elements that are created by me. Is Wikipedia a platform to start working with other individuals worldwide on this method?

Best regards, Peter 00:48, 7 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter.klement (talk • contribs)

Maybe. I don't mean this harshly but your description is so vague that what you are actually talking about and whether we could use your expertise is impossible to say. Note, though, that if you are talking at all about describing this new methodology in an article here, that subject would be original research which we cannot use. If you want to use, for example your amazing developer skills to provide new tools, programs, scripts, bug fixes and the like, why that would be quite welcome. So, what are you actually talking about?--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Please sign your posts with four tildes (~), like this: ~~~~. Read more about it at WP:SIGNATURE. Thanks! Happy editing! Bus stop (talk) 01:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

If you want to get involved with the various software development projects related to Wikipedia itself, read the following, for starters: mw:How to become a MediaWiki hacker; m:Toolserver; WP:EIW#Bot; WP:EIW#Tools. If you mean something else, for example a software development method for business applications (or gaming, or numerical analysis, or mobile apps, etc.), Wikipedia does not want original research. You should rather publish your work in reliable sources, and if your work is (or becomes) notable, then someone will write about it on Wikipedia. You should avoid writing about your own work in Wikipedia articles. --Teratornis (talk) 01:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Peter, I agree with Teratornis. [A Wikimedia Toolserver User Account] may be the solution. Why don't you request for a user account and start off? ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

uploading an article

Hello,

I am a new user. I have developed a new article with all the Wiki's requirement and is placed in my personal page in Wiki. I want to save (redirect) this article in another relevant place. But I could not get the exact guidance on it. Highly appreciate if you can guide me step by step process, so that I will be able to transfer my article from sand box to main page. Thank you. Bhojrajpokharel (talk) 02:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Presumably you refer to User:Bhojrajpokharel/Nepal: Women’s representation in the national parliament. See WP:YFA, WP:MOVE, WP:NOTABLE, WP:RS, WP:TITLE (we do not end a page title with a period/full stop character), WP:REFPUNCT (a ref tag goes after sentence-ending punctuation, not before it), and WP:LAYOUT (you've made your section headings wrong). --Teratornis (talk) 02:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Your article still has some issues as pointed out by Teratornis. However, I'll still explain the process. In a normal situation, if you wanted to move an article that you have prepared in a subpage of your userspace to the mainspace (aka where the articles are), you would just move the page. This is done by selecting the "move" tab at the top of the page, then proceeding from there. All the content of the article, along with its history, is moved to the new location when this is done. However, this can only be done by autoconfirmed users; at the moment, you are not an autoconfirmed user, as you need at least ten edits. You may request that someone else move the article you have prepared for you by adding {{move draft}} to the top of the article. If the article seems appropriate, another user will move it. Hope that helps and answers your question. For now, I would focus further on working on the article for it to meet the guidelines that were linked to by Teratornis. Thanks, ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 02:56, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Also read Wikipedia:Lead section. The lead section goes before the first heading in an article. We do not repeat the article title as the first heading as you did in your draft. Consider joining Wikipedia:WikiProject Nepal. --Teratornis (talk) 03:06, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Bhojrajpokharel, do consider using WP:Article wizard for a well guided process. Also kindly read WP:Your first article for information that would be highly relevant to you. Write back for any further help. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 04:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

About multilingual coordination, etc.

Dear Wikipedia staff members, I am a professional translator and thus an active editor of several Wikipedia communities: Spanish, English, German, etc. And from time to time I check interwiki links between different languages; to my surprise, I happen to find articles that are interwiki-ed, but are not really "the same article in different languages". How can this be further coordinated/monitored/solved...? Is there any "common space of coordination among Wikipedias in different languages"? Please let me know! Best regards, --Fadesga (talk) 02:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

See the links under WP:EIW#Translate for example Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination. If you see an interlanguage link that is incorrect, free free to fix it. It is not surprising that some of these links could be wrong, or less than entirely correct, because (a) only a small number of Wikipedia editors are multilingual enough and have the topic-specific knowledge to check them, and (b) articles on the various Wikipedias can change over time, possibly causing topic "drift" which might render an interlanguage link less correct. --Teratornis (talk) 02:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Fadesga, the area you talk about is woefully short of editors. Just as a note, I should point out that the second link Teratornis has mentioned > Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination < is no longer active and won't be of any help. If I were to point you out to Category:Wikipedia multilingual coordination, it might fall short of your requirements as the category is not populated significantly. But let this not discourage you from contributing and creating a project on multilingual coordination. In fact, why don't you? ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 05:31, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

"44th President of the United States" redirects to Hiter?

I don't know how to fix it, but when I searched "44th President of the United States" (not the "44th president of the united states of america") it took me to the page on Adolf Hitler. I'm sorry, I looked around but just can't figure out how to fix that! I need help I guess!71.212.165.188 (talk) 06:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I have fixed that. A vandal redirected the page to Hitler. You shouldn't be sorry; please continue contributing. Thanks for letting us know! Goodvac (talk) 06:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Images not displaying

Until recently, this gif and this gif were displaying okay. Now, at least on my computer, they display the error message: "Error creating thumbnail: Invalid thumbnail parameters or image file with more than 12.5 million pixels". Have permissible gif sizes been down sized. 12.5 million pixels is only 1.25 MB, not particularly large for a sophisticated gif. Does this mean Wikipedia no longer allows sophisticated gifs? --Epipelagic (talk) 07:02, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

See VPT (I'm not saying that will provide a clear answer, but that's where some info may be found). Johnuniq (talk) 07:17, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

"Allmusic is a bunch of retards who know nothing about music whatsoever."

Hello,

The first sentence in the article on Allmusic (aka AMG, All Music Guide) has apparently been edited to "Allmusic is a bunch of retards who know nothing about music whatsoever." Not sure what it said before, but if you have a record of past edits, I'd appreciate having it changed back to what it said in the past.

Thanks, John Bush AMG Senior Managing Editor, Pop Music

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_music_guide —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.198.80.2 (talk) 11:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It had been vandalised some time ago. Reverted now, and thanks for letting us know about it. ≈ Chamal ^talk ¤ 11:32, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

How do I create a link in a current MITREpedia document to another *.doc or *.pdf?

I am very new to editing in MITREpedia. I know how to create a link to an URL. I know if I upload the *.doc or *pdf, MITREpedia thinks it is an Image. I want the user to see the name *.doc or *.pdf in the text like a link. Something that when clicked on it actually open the linked *.doc or *.pdf in a separate window.

How do I do that?

Thank you, —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.29.43.3 (talk) 11:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, you may either ask at our computing reference desk or in MITREpedia. This page is for Wikipedia only. Regards, Kayau Voting IS evil 11:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

How to detach an accepted word from its roots, to bring their roots to life as a new (old) word?

Let's say I invented a new kind of Auto-Mobile that has MORE features that makes it an Automobile MORE than it is a "Car". Now, let's pretend the ONLY meaning on wikipedia for Automobile is Car.

How do I re-define the entry for "automobile" so it won't automatically redirecteds you to "car"?

It could show either something inside "CAR" to go back, if redirection is subject to the BIGGER acceptation of "car".

No redirection, it could show "Automobile is a new kind of car that have mobile parts, (let's pretend that that feature existed)" Also, it's the old name for the word 'car' "

…or something like "car is the short/modern name for 'automobile'. For the new kind of car 'Automobile' click here"

I hope I made it clear enough.

Excuse my english.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergiozambrano (talk • contribs) 13:28, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Short answer, you don't. See WP:Neologism. – ukexpat (talk) 13:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

broken link

on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unicode_subscripts_and_superscripts

at the bottom is a link to

http://www.unicode.org/charts/PDF/U2070.pdf

It is broken —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cvhorie (talk • contribs) 13:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. The link works for me. What message do you see? TNXMan 13:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Minor updates

When you update footballers appearances and goals, is it a minor update? Gobbleswoggler (talk) 13:38, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

See WP:MINOR. It should be in there. BTW it's called a minor edit ;) Kayau Voting IS evil 13:40, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

And, I don't think it is. Kayau Voting IS evil 13:41, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Whether an edit is marked as minor or not is really up to you. Generally, any edit that has even the tiniest chance of being disputed should be left as major. Edits that deal with punctuation, spelling, grammar, fixing factual errors or reverting vandalism are good examples of edits that most people would be considered minor. I'm sure most people would consider your minor factual change minor, assuming you have the reliable sources to back up your change. Xenon54 / talk / 21:27, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

How to add a neologism

I posted a question about creating a new word a few lines above, which was answered with "I can't" because that's a neologism.

New question: What if the inventor still decides to call it that way? Is that new aparatus never going to be on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sergiozambrano (talk • contribs) 13:45, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok, this is what you add: {{redirect|Automobile|the new kind of cars|Whatever the article for the new kind of automobile is.}} Which produces:

"Automobile" redirects here. For the new kind of cars, see The quick brown fox jumped over thte lazy dog.

Kayau Voting IS evil 13:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

But don't add the "new aparatus" [sic] unless and until it meets Wikipedia's inclusion criteria, see WP:PRODUCT. "New" things very rarely do until they are no longer new and have received non-trivial coverage in multiple reliable sources independent of the subject. – ukexpat (talk) 14:12, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

adding refs

Hello,

I have just added references to a page that had none, but I can't seem to add the actual reference title in the reference section. The page is the one on rhesus monkeys and I added refs 9 and 10. The actual reference is [7]. Please let me know how to proceed. This is my first time uploading info to wiki.

Thanks, Melissa —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.72.46.62 (talk) 15:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Melissa, it was because you had put <ref></ref> in the middle of the "References" heading, and it didn't like that! It's fixed now. --BelovedFreak 15:22, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Decimal places output of function {{#expr: ''expression''}}

Hi everybody, the above function for calculation gives by default an accuracy to 14 decimal places, which in some cases is excessive. Is it possible to limit the number of displayed decimals to a desired extent? Thank you very much, --Gabodon (talk) 15:30, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Use round n to truncate the result to n places; for example, {{#expr:1/3 round 1}} gives 0.3. Intelligentsium 15:50, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Partisan tone

If feel an article has too partisan a tone on a disputed subject and I do not want to enter an editorial war. How can I send my comments to the authors and ask them to make changes? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mauceri (talk • contribs) 16:18, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

You could add {{tone}} to the top of the article and begin a discussion with other editors on the article talk page. TNXMan 16:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

If you are new to talk pages, see Wikipedia:Tutorial (Talk pages), Wikipedia:Talk page, and Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. If you get no response after a few days on the article talk page, you can identify the authors by checking the article history and leave messages on their user talk pages, for example with {{Ping}} to call their attention to the article talk page. It's best to try to keep the discussion on the article talk page if possible, so other interested editors can easily find the discussion about the article. --Teratornis (talk) 19:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Urgent

What Does This Means"Kush është kryeqyteti i Shqipërisë?" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.110.53.10 (talk) 16:58, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps.Template:Z37 – ukexpat (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

From a translation script, it appears to mean, "What is the capital of Albania?" As ukexpat notes above, in the future please direct this nature of question to the reference desk. Intelligentsium 17:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

No line breaks

Moved from Wikipedia talk:Help desk. – ukexpat (talk) 18:33, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I have no idea why this is happening to me. Is it a browser thing? That does not make sense to me since it never happens anywhere else. Of course Wikipedia is the only web site where I do any editing. Please check out my recent edit to Talk:Rye (city), New York. Then, check out Talk:Lake George (village), New York (which is NOT a page I edited). You could probably even see the lack of line breaks here.

I place line breaks (pressing 'enter' on the keyboard) in my text and the saved page or section sometimes is devoid of the line breaks. Above, I mentioned about a Rye talk page I edited. It has no line breaks in the text of the page. But the line breaks are definitely there (check the history). And I mentioned about a Lake George talk page I did not edit. The first edit has line breaks visible, yet the history does not show any formatting different from what I have done. I know that I can force breaks using html. But other users do not do that. Why should I need to? NewYorkeruser (talk) 00:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

You need to press enter twice to have a line break appear. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 00:13, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

This is a test to see if line breaks are showing.

Having to press enter twice seems unnecessary.

Why not make it just one break? NewYorkeruser (talk) 00:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

One press of enter does nothing. So, who does pressing enter twice give me two breaks? I wanted a line break, not a paragraph break. NewYorkeruser (talk) 00:42, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

You can force a line break with <br> but it usually should'nt be used in normal article text. See more at Wikipedia:Line break handling. Wiki source isn't quite html but this and some other notation was adopted from html. See HTML element#Other inline elements. In html neither one nor more newline characters will produce a line break in the rendered page. It's often convenient to be able to format wiki source for easy source reading and editing by using one newline character in situations where no line break in the rendered page is wanted. PrimeHunter (talk) 01:20, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Okay. I have no idea what you are saying in your last sentence. But my last question (about two breaks instead of one) is occurring for me. Pressing enter twice gave me two breaks. Pressing enter once gives me zero breaks. I want ONE break (sometimes).NewYorkeruser (talk) 01:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

If you want one break then you can write <br> followed by zero or one Enter presses, but note this is usually not recommended in normal Wikipedia article text. Two Enter presses gives a new paragraph which your browser probably displays with a space between one and two line breaks.
There is one <br> line break before this line.

There are two Enters (giving a new paragraph) before this line.

There are two <br> line breaks before this line. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:11, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Maybe you are not understanding me. I do not want to put in a break code since other users do not do so. But I also do not know how to get a SINGLE BLANK LINE without a code. One enter does nothing for me (no line end). Two enters gives me a new paragraph. Wikipedia should be easy to use. But I have sometimes been finding it difficult to navigate, difficult to edit, and hard to understand. NewYorkeruser (talk) 07:54, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Please link to an example of what you're trying to accomplish. --NeilN ^{talk to me} 10:35, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

If none of my three examples above is what you want then I don't know what you want. I thought you wanted the first example with one <br> between lines. This is rendered like a text file with one Enter at the end of a line. It's rarely done here because a line break without starting a new paragraph is against normal Wikipedia style outside lists. You say "I do not want to put in a break code since other users do not do so." But if you want something to render differently from what we usually do then you have to use a notation differently from what we usually do. Are you unhappy with the line spacing before my first example above which said "There is one <br> line break before this line"? If you are happy with that line spacing then you have to use <br>. There is no number of Enters which will give the same result. This is not a Wikipedia invention. It is the standard way of doing it in html all over the World Wide Web. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:24, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Did you read the first part of this section? I clearly put in two links. Please check them out. Check out the pages and the codes as well. I do not want to put in break codes. I also do not want to do things differently from other users. However, I am doing things that way now. I wish to be able to put in line breaks without using break codes. In the Lake George link, someone did that. No codes were used. In the Rye link, I did not use codes, yet my text did not come out with line breaks after pressing enter. HERE I did a test. I pressed enter twice for a single line break, and I come up with a paragraph break instead. AGAIN, pressing enter once (for me) does not break the line. AGAIN, pressing enter twice (for me) gives a paragraph break (a blank line between two lines. I like having the paragraph breaks. But I also want to have line breaks (no blank lines) without using code. If other users accomplish this, then why can't I? NewYorkeruser (talk) 18:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

NewYorkeruser, in the Talk:Lake George (village), New York article, the gap between these sentences:

This article appears to be incorrect. The county seat of Warren County is the Town of Lake George not the Village of Lake George

The Warren County Municipal Center, which is the county offices, is technically in the town of Queensbury, but it has a Lake George zip code.

is achieved by using two returns.

The gap between these sentences:

The Warren County Municipal Center, which is the county offices, is technically in the town of Queensbury, but it has a Lake George zip code.

--Grunherz 19:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Be Bold, and when you have the time please fix the article. --Ahc 20:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

exists because the line beginning "Be Bold" is indented with a : sign at the start (so the source code looks like this):

The Warren County Municipal Center, which is the county offices, is technically in the town of Queensbury, but it has a Lake George zip code.
--[[User:Grunherz|Grunherz]] 19:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
:[[Wikipedia:Be_bold_in_updating_pages|Be Bold]], and when you have the time please fix the article. --[[User:Ahc|Ahc]] 20:49, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Other than using return twice and using the
tag, I believe as the others say that there's no other way to insert simple non-indented returns. Gonzonoir ([[User talk

(←) In reference to your question about why someone might want to put line breaks into their wikitext which will not appear on the rendered page, the reasons include: (a) making the source readable for other editors (particularly helpful with template code), and (b) making diffs more readable. The diff feature compares before and after text in units of paragraphs. If a paragraph is long, and the change to it is small (such as moving just one punctuation character), the difference can be hard to see. --Teratornis (talk) 19:23, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Re: Stemming eLayaway to the Layaway article

I am having trouble finding a way to integrate eLayaway.com to stem from the "layaway" keyword. I have plenty of reputable news sources that have covered eLayaway as an alternate payment tool, and the first eCommerce site to offer layaway. I would like more information on how to go about doing this. I am unclear about the first steps. I do not want this to come off as advertising, but rather bring to attention the efforts of this company when speaking about other layaway powerhouses such as "sears" and "kmart".— Preceding unsigned comment added by Melissavalido (talk • contribs)

A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

Thank you.

Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.

Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.

If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. – ukexpat (talk) 20:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Infobox settlement: inconsistencies, questions, and fixes

I have gone through a whole lot of pages of specific places with infobox settlement. My concerns are about which New York maps are put on city and village pages. Not all pages use the same type of New York map, and some do not even have a New York map. I have a large amount of text on this matter. Should I post it on this page, or should I find a page at the Reference Desk and post it there? NewYorkeruser (talk) 21:00, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

NOt all articles have to be the same..so yes you will see differences from page to page. As an editor you a free to change this pictures and/or add them to articles you think need them ...if you wish. Keeping in mind that if someone does not like the changes (reverts them), this should start a discussion page chat on the merits of changing the pictures etc... As for your text you have, i would suggest to post it on the discussion page of the specific article with your references for the text and see what ohter think of its merit to the article and.or articles .......Hope this helps ..pls ask more if need be!!..Moxy (talk) 21:19, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

I simply asked if I should post here or there. Which is the appropriate place? I cannot post on a specific place page, because there are hundreds of them. My concern is a rather general one concerning maps, not pictures. It has links example pages, a suggestion for changing to one type of map. Most of my text is way too general to go to a specific page like you suggested. So again, post it here or somewher at Reference Desk? NewYorkeruser (talk) 21:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok i think i see what your saying ..the best place to post if its about NY in general would be -->Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York... The link is to a WikiProject talk page devoted to the management of articels related to NY called the The WikiProject New York...Moxy (talk) 21:47, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

PROD

What is the advantage of a PROD over an AfD discussion? Immunize (talk) 21:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

PRODs are for when deletion is going to be uncontroversial, but it's not covered by WP:CSD criteria. If you pretty much know that no one would object to the deletion at AFD, then sometimes it's better to avoid a discussion by using PROD. For example, something that blatantly isn't an encyclopedia article, but isn't eligible for speedy deletion. It's not supposed to be a way around deletion discussions though, so if you think there's any possibility that people would question it, take it to AFD. Some people use PRODs to get rid of articles when they've seen similar articles be deleted at AFD over and over. I personally don't use PROD too much, preferring to give people a chance to find some evidence I have missed, but sometimes you just know something doesn't belong here. Have a look through the Category:Proposed deletion categories and read the reasons people put on the PROD templates; that should give you some idea. --BelovedFreak 22:03, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

Another way to see it is that with new or new-ish articles PROD gives the author breathing space to get the article up to scratch before it goes into the AfD arena with the lions. If the prod notification template has been correctly placed on the author's talk page, they have an idea of the problem and several days to fix it themselves or ask for help before any deletion. If they choose to remove the prod template without addressing the problem, that effectively shows the deletion to be controversial to some extent, at which point AfD is appropriate. Karenjc 22:43, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

What is the talk page? and how do I post something on it like suggestions?

The talk page is very confusing and its not actually anywhere to be seen in articles, I want to use it to give suggestions or discus how improvements can be made to a topic and use it to post stuff. There is the discussion page, but what good is it for? please, i am very new to wikipedia and it is VERY confusing, believe me!. Thank You!