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Onechectomy

I saw you are in the Animal Rights WP and was wondering if you are against Declawing animals or Onychectomy? The userbox is located at {{User:PatPeter/User nocatdeclaw}}

So just copy the title as you are viewing and put it with the {{ }} and w/o the [[ ]] to your userpage. -PatPeter 18:36, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

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Music Genre article

Hi Doktor Who

I already replied to your notes on my talk page. Then I noticed the {{Unreferenced}} tag you added at Music genre and that you referred to "fanzines crap" in your edit summary. I just wanted to let you know that the changes on that article were not done all at once. There is an editor User:TimNelson who's been doing a lot of work organizing music projects, and he's been discussing the changes, not doing them on his own. He's a good guy, and I suggest you try discussing with him in a friendly way. I think he would be interested in your comments and would welcome your help, so please don't assume he's an adversary.

We do need references on those definitions about fusional origins of genres, do you know where we could find references about that?

Either way, that work was all done in good faith and with discussion, so please give Tim a chance and don't assume he's like some of the other music editors you've had trouble with who don't know what they're doing.

Thanks. --Parsifal _Hello 20:17, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

RE: On Veganism

Thank you!!! I have been putting off responding to repeat, just been too busy, but yes I agree people just don't know how to do it right. -PatPeter 02:55, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to reply to him on User talk:Repeat2341, I have only been a vegan for about a year now so I don't know all the answers, my mom knows a lot about it like how chemicals in meat kills calcium as an example. -PatPeter 03:28, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Space music

Please bring your concerns about content and sources to the talk page. Thanks. —Viriditas | Talk 01:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Music, intelligent dance music

Cheer up and smile, it's a wonderful world. I also got some depression after come here. Why will people make something important that is not considered much in the sources? The reason I discovered is the personal investment that the editor has made, I think. The editor invested their time in the music and became in a group of friends in the IDM internet discussion list or the other fan group of music. They found happiness on that island, so if we don't react the same importance then they think we are attacking them closely for personal reason. I got the same feeling some time, then I will read and keep the source and writing very good, hopefully. "Bloody hell", there is another generation of music fans, and he is very popular here, I don't understand him. Have a good day, even when the rain and wind come. It's a sad time for me now. ^-^ ! ♪ ☆☆★☆ nobu --Susume-eat 11:35, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I know that young editors may think that I'm attaching them. My point is that this is an encyclopedia that aims to be a serious site, and not an indiscriminate collection of facts paetaining to popular culture. IDM and other similar articles that I recently tagged with a WP:OR template refer to musical scenes and/or musical movements, or to different styles within a same genre, and are not new musical genres. We have just less than 10 real musical genres, in musicology; IDM, and the various atmospheric forms of rhythmic music are just subgenres of pop->technopop. I am a fan of Aphex Twin, The orb and many others since early 1990s. just i find them more similar to Kraftwerk, notthing to do with brian Eno. According to musicological and academic methods this music should be called just "Technopop", or "Instrumental Technopop", or "1990s Wave of Technopop". Every kind of music can be "danced with", even the so called "discomusic and "dance music" should be called just "rhytmic pop" or whatever, haha. I would appreciate if you could forward to other users that I'm not trolling your world. I'm taking this site seriously. ^_^. Doktor Who 12:01, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

Ya, I saw you in Aphex Twin talk page. Really some other boys came, they are from messageboards. They are so different beyond reality. Really I was angry, but be friends is best. I change IDM in response to you. What do you think? The boys told me IDM is very popular and I looked for many sources, sometimes I find last.fm or another joke. I showed them 40 newspaper articles for Aphex Twin (no idm), really they ignored it. I was shocked. I expect it, this is their culture for them, really, what is it for Aphex Twin? Not much, only on the sides. The only source for Idm is "oh, I HATE IDM grr!!" also other source is some fanzine or myspace or facebook..... ^-^ fufu, ^-^ ! ♪ ☆☆★☆ nobu

Your note

I've left a comment, but it does look problematic. Best to have a word directly with the blocking admin. Sorry I can't be of more help. SlimVirgin ^{(talk)(contribs)} 21:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

History of Electronic Music

Please join to Electronic art music discuccion talk! I will support you --Susume-eat 05:57, 17 August 2007 (UTC) Talk:Electronic_art_music#Proposal_for_creation_of_History_of_Electronic_Music Now here: Talk:Electronic_music#Names.2C_terms.2C_and_words

You have been fast, the article has moved, and as you can see from my past messages, I fully support such move--Doktor Who 08:02, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Cosmic Disco

Hi - I received your note and looked at the article. I've never heard of that kind of music. I'm not sure if it should have an article or not. One of the references they list quotes a DJ saying he doesn't think it's a genre. But the term does seem to be used about that music scene in 1980's Italy. I'd say, it's not very notable, but it could be enough for an article if someone finds more real references. What do you think? --Parsifal _Hello 06:09, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

The article was named Cosmic music up to yesterday, I moved it to its current location, but I'm not sure if it is the most appropriate title. I would support a merge with Space disco, just as a note, or a full deletion. Space disco was a common term in Italy during late 1970s-early 1980s, and referred to Giorgio Moroder, Dee D. Jackson, and hits by Rockets (a French band) and Kraftwerk. Doktor Who 08:02, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I think a Space disco article would be good to have, if you want to write it. --Parsifal _Hello 08:24, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

The article's current name is Space Disco, sorry for mistyping. That Csosmic disco stuff must be deleted, also not that the mentioned dj now redirects to Space music, im not sure let me check, they made a big mess, Im wasting too much time...Doktor Who 08:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

It's OK, I fixed it. It redirects to Space disco now. I also changed the title from Space Disco to Space disco according to the manual of style WP:MOS --Parsifal _Hello 08:56, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

You redirected it again to Space music. Why did you do that? Do you have references that show "Cosmic music" is used for that?--

Maybe it would be better to just delete "Cosmic music" . The right way to do that would be to restore the article and then put a {{PROD}} tag on it. After a few days it will be gone. The way you did it now isn't really fair to the people who worked on it, since it doesn't give them a chance to discuss it they have references or not. What do you think? --Parsifal _Hello 09:32, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

I thought it is obvious that 'cosmic' and 'space' refers to the same thing. You are still in the wrong-minded scheme, you believe that you can deal with music genres as they were copyrighted slogans. It is blatantly untrue. Only ppl with no serious academic background can believe that (I suspect that Wikipedia is a bad idea, and that only ppl with a Phd or an equivalent professional expertize should edit an encyclopedic site). Anw, i support your idea, i would restore the article and then tag it. --Doktor Who 09:44, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

Personal attack

Hmm, some people :( make me feel sad sometime --Susume-eat 22:39, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

more personal attacks :-(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Denaar

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Unint

fufufu I need to ignore this crazy, just get on with the job of editing and being bold and trying to work my best ^-^ god it makes me depressed but i gotta just cheer up BE HAPPY!! --Susume-eat 23:00, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

Techno reference

Hi - I'm your friendly neighborhood Wikiadministrator... just wanted to let you know that I searched by ISBN for the book that you listed on AN/I, and got one: Music and Technoculture (Music/Culture) Release: 2003-09 Publisher: Tandem Library Format: Hardcover ISBN: 0613912500 EAN: 9780613912501 List Price: $39.60

At least on the surface, that appears to be a valid reference.

PS - it might not be a bad idea to apologize for the edit summary where you said "bad faith troll-acting"- Philippe | Talk 04:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

It doesnt show me. have you checked the links I posted?? What does that mean that you are "my" wikiadministrator? Is it a threat, such as "believe us or we will bann/block you indefinitely"?)Doktor Who 04:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Goodness, calm down. No, I'm not threatening you. I'm just telling you that as an administrator, I checked the situation, and found an ISBN that matched. All I did was copy the number into Google with ISBN before it, and it pulled referneces. Then I checked a library tool, just to be sure, and it was there. I did check the links you posted, and I'm sorry, but I think your search was in error. The reference checks out. As a fellow editor, I know that emotions run hot sometimes, so sometimes the best bet is to have a cup of tea and walk away. The reference is good. Unless there's something else wrong with it, there's no reason it can't stay in the article. - Philippe | Talk 04:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

PROD is not for redirects

I have removed the {{prod}} tag from Cosmic disco, which you proposed for deletion, because the page you proposed for deletion was not an article, user page, or user talk page. If you still think the page should be deleted, please don't add the {{prod}} template back to it, as proposed deletion is only for articles, user pages, and user talk pages. Instead, consider using WP:RFd for this page. In some cases, a speedy deletion criterion may apply. Thanks! Actually if the now target is deleted, the redirects can be deleted speedily.Tikiwont 14:43, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

I have blocked you for 48 hours for threats of violence and generally disruptive comments such as you made here. When your block expires please a.)refrain from EVER EVER threatening anyubody on this project ever again with real world violence. Next time it will be INDEF and I am fairly sure you will not get unblocked. b.)consider contributing in a manner that is civil and promotes discourse. Thanks! Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:23, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

There is discussion going on at ANI as whether to lengthen your block. In regards to your email, I will not unblock your or change your block. It is not a joke to threaten to beat people. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Unblock

Dear administrators, please revise my block. It was obvious that I was kidding, please note that at Susume-eat talk page as well at Parsifal's one, some of us apparently insulted each other or threat each other, but we were all kidding. The real issue is that other editors did nothing to calm down us when things began to appear a bit more serious. Indeed, they just fuelled the fire, and that has been very unkind and disruptive.

sincerely Doktor Who 17:42, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

you may wish to use the {{unblock}} template or nobody may find this request. Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 17:44, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

many thanks , Chris. I'll follow your advice. :) Doktor Who 17:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Your unblock request

In the interests of getting you a fair hearing, I'm not going to actually review and decline your unblock request, but I'd like to point out one thing: you have shown a distinct lack of accountability. For instance, the phrases "It is obvious that I was kidding" and "other editors did nothing to calm us down" don't show a great deal of understanding that you are responsible for the things that you say on-wiki. Rather, it shows that you want other editors to be responsible for what you say. Take responsibility, and your case would get a lot farther, I think... - Philippe | Talk 18:09, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I used the word "kbeat" as an intentional funny (I believed so) way to mis-write the word "beat", the letter "k" is a clear reference to the "k" in "Doktor",; maybe my almost british (i am trying) humour is not evident, and is likely misunderstood. Apologies if such behaviour may have actually hurted someone. In the future, after my wikibreak, I'll avoid such way of kidding, even if some funny user will try again to involve me in such actions. I will no longer write so much in talk pages, I understand that I cant master properly informal English. Nothing personal against you of course, and many thanks for your kindness. Doktor Who 18:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

See, now, as far as I'm concerned, that's MUCH better. My advice to you at this point: wait out the block, then come back with a fresh start and make another go at it. - Philippe | Talk 18:27, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm very happy and grateful that I've been unblocked, and many thanks again for your advice, your politeness and your sincere tone. ^_^ ---Doktor Who 18:40, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Invitation back to Talk:Electronica

Hi Doktor Who. I've been following the ANI proceedings, and I'm happy to see that things appear to be resolved more amicably above. I'd just like to add that I didn't understand the apparent intended humor in your statements - it looked a lot more like a typo to me, so if you genuinely didn't intend that to be a threat, then I certainly accept your apology as well. In general, I'd like to advise you to consider how it looks to others before you post it - we can't tell what you're thinking, so if it looks like a threat (even meant in humor), we usually have no choice but to treat it as such.

That said, I'd like to invite you back to the discussion at Talk:Electronica when you're ready. (If you're still upset over what's happened in the last 24 hours, I'd advise waiting for a little while.) I'll do my best to facilitate open discussion about the content in that article, and I'll try to mediate it so that if things do start getting heated again, you'll have someone there who can help keep it cool and civil. I'd like to reiterate that I'm on nobody's side here - I'm a neutral third party, and if I see evidence of uncivil behavior or WP:OWN violations by Parsifal or anyone else in the discussion, I will similarly admonish them.

You do have some good points regarding the content issues on Electronica - whether it can be called an official music genre or what not - and I'd like to encourage you to make your points on those issues in the article. You'll be best received in this discussion by (a) making sure that you focus only on the content and not talking about the other editors, and (b) finding and citing references to back up your arguments. For instance, if you know of an official publication, a website that is regarded as an authority on musicology, etc., that states that Electronica is not accepted as a genre, then cite it - provide a link, a title, an author, etc., so that the other editors can go verify it. Remember that everything on Wikipedia must be verifiable.

Do be prepared for people to counter your arguments, too. Just as you have good points on the subject, I'm sure that others will as well. The point here is to move toward consensus. Right now, there seems to be an established consensus on the subject, so you may have an uphill battle ahead of you to change that. But consensus can be changed - it is not uncommon for a consensus to have been reached on incorrect information.

Thanks, and good luck. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 18:53, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Hello KieferSkunk, your above msg is very welcome, I've read it carefully. I'm not going to be involved in such articles for now, I have to work on tasks that I began in some music-related wikiproject that I joined (not the Electronic music wikiprojeact, of course). Thank you again for your invitation, it is very much appreciated.Doktor Who 19:22, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

No problem. See, we're not all bad. :) Like I said, when you're ready. The page will likely still be there. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 20:20, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Lotta Love article

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Music technology project

I think that'd be a great idea; there would be some crossover with some smaller ones like WikiProject Synthesizers and professional sound production, but there are still some topics which aren't wikiproject covered. Could be a sort of top level project. Should we propose one? - Zeibura ^(Talk) 03:03, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

That'd make sense. the PSP project seems to cover acoustics and studio equipment, but it would definitely be good to have a top level project. If you want to propose it at the wikiproject council, go ahead. I won't be around much for the next couple of days as I won't have internet access, but I'll probably step in to the uni library at some point. - Zeibura ^(Talk) 22:29, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

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Hello Dr. Who. Thanks for looking at moodswinger. You are right about the {COI}, I'm aware of that problem when I add information. I want a subjective article, which is also usefull for experimental guitarists who explore prepared guitar techniques and third bridge-guitar, that's why the microtonal tables are so large. Your suggestion to help me is very good news. I will inform you when there is news about the Moodswinger. This won't be much I think. Most information usefull for other musicians is already in the article.

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New Task

Hi, How do u want me to create this list? Ummagumma23 18:58 27 August 2007 (UTC).

Yamaka122 (talk · contribs · count)

I do not think User:Yamaka122 was committing a personal attack. Please assume good faith. I think his edits were just plain mistakes. Thedjatclubrock :) ^(T/C) 22:21, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I apologize

I was not trying to offend you when I reverted that edit and was defiantly not trying to make a personal attack in anyway. I was working quickly while and saw Google bomb (I looked it op afterwards and saw what it was), and you are on the IRC channels Blacklist so I reverted it. But quickly saw it was not vandalism. I am very sorry about this and I hope you will forgive me. Cheers. Yamaka122 ...:) 22:27, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

IRC is probably better explained by the wikipedia article than I could ever explain it. Below is the report from the bot that monitors the blacklist. It should explain why you're on it

"Doktor_Who on blacklist, added by User:Chrislk02 at 17:21:15 20-Aug-2007 UTC, "Autoblacklist: threats of violence, general disruption. See thread at ANI", Expires 17:21:15 05-Sep-2007 UTC"

Yamaka122 ...:) 01:40, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, ok, that episode was really funny, I got blocked for 1 hour, but very luckyly Chris understood my reasons, I posted some pseudo/faked threats of violence at talk:Electronica, but it was the result of a sequence of jokes among 3 editors, Susume-eat, Parsifal and me (see User talk:Parsifal and the number of faked warnings), that at a certain point seemed to be serious harrassment, just like children that start kiddin' and then they end up with hurting each other. Tomorrow I could post here some diffs, if you want, now I have to go, bye.Doktor Who 02:03, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't know how much of that was really a joke, but as long as it has been resolved that is good. I looked at the ANI threads and also the threads that contained many disputes between you and Gene_Pool, but as long as you learned a valuable lesson and are no longer in a disagreement with Gene_Pool I have remved you from the VCN blacklist. Happy editing Yamaka122 ...:) 19:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

New task

Is what ive done ok? Ummagumma23 13:00 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks. ^_^ Anw, you dont need to hurry in this way. Doktor Who 12:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

:)

Thank you! Best regards, PeaceNT 15:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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Yeah i want to help the project in moving foward. Want do u want to do? Ummmagumma23 10:09 30 August 2007 (UTC).

Hello

I will go to clinic and hospital. Electronic art music is changed to Electronic music (art) by my change. Is it ok? It looks good. ^-^ smile return 1 week from hospital--Susume-eat 10:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Parsifal is vandalising very much!!! Oh god the ugly and horrible hideous —Preceding unsigned comment added by Susume-eat (talk • contribs) 05:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

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No Problem Izzy007 Talk 23:48, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

Here is the project page.Izzy007 Talk 23:32, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

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Mmm im somewhat concerned about the project since nothing has happened for a while. have u any ideas? Ummagumma23 21:08 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 7 - October 2007

"It's weird when you play a show somewhere and there's a disproportionate number of people backstage talking about how they're witches."- Trent Reznor Project news Nine Inch Nails reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to BotleySmith and Drewcifer3000. List of Powderfinger awards and the discographies of Uncle Tupelo, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Powderfinger all reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Lincalinca, Dihydrogen Monoxide, Spebi, NSR77, and Teemu08 The Smashing Pumpkins was featured on the Main Page on October 11. We collaborated on Nevermind, The Breeders, Alternative rock, Fugazi (band) and The Downward Spiral during the past month. During the month of October, Adam Clayton, One Hot Minute and Joey Santiago were promoted to good article status. There are two articles at prose review, Butthole Surfers and Radiohead. You can help promote these articles to FA status; every little helps.

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WikiProject Alternative music November 2007 Newsletter

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 8 - November 2007

"Personality. Personality. Personality. Personality>Personlaity>peporisnaitiu.Pelsonlaity>personality> PSoDURYW'OB>peojuiuauA>PRFIVGU-JSNN.;YN~CPJHOQA" ALFIHI-WUSAZ;/P ioy iqNLKH GZW IGDB." - Thom Yorke Project news Pinkerton (album), Joey Santiago, Dream Days at the Hotel Existence, One Hot Minute and Powderfinger reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to Cowbellcity45, CloudNine, RaNdOm26, Dihydrogen Monoxide, Grim-Gym, NSR77 and Spebi. List of Silverchair awards and the discographies of Pavement, Feeder, the Minutemen and Nine Inch Nails all reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Brandt Luke Zorn, Dihydrogen Monoxide, CloudNine and Drewcifer3000. Nine Inch Nails was featured on the Main Page on November 20. We collaborated on "This Charming Man", Sonic Youth, Siamese Dream and Powderfinger during the past month. During the month of November, Small Mercies, "Passenger" (Powderfinger song), Jimmy Chamberlin, Spiderland, and Niandra Lades and Usually Just a T-Shirt were promoted to good article status.

New members Cambrant, Chickpeaface, Atlantik and Thelastfetusdying joined the alternative music fold during November. Editors User:WesleyDodds

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WikiProject Alternative music December 2007 Newsletter

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 9 - December 2007

"He didn't really talk until he got his girlfriend, and somehow that jump-started his ego, and he went from 'I am Lou, I am nothing' to 'I am the greatest.' He just went ffffft, just flipped the scales. And then he started talking a lot. And then I was realizing from a lot of the things he was saying, 'Hmmm, maybe I don't like Lou.'"- J Mascis Project news Loveless (album), Spiderland and Internationalist (album) reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to WesleyDodds, Ceoil, Brandt Luke Zorn, Dihydrogen Monoxide and Spebi. The discographies of Nation of Ulysses and Dave Gahan reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Drewcifer3000 and Underneath-it-All. We collaborated on Rage Against the Machine, Flea (musician), Oasis (band), Mission of Burma and Primal Scream during the past month. During the month of December, Slay Tracks (1933-1969), "These Days" (Powderfinger song), Transfusion (EP), Young Modern, Ian Svenonius, Trent Reznor, "Sunsets", Alice in Chains, David Lovering, Thrice, These Days: Live in Concert, Parables for Wooden Ears, Fingerprints: The Best of Powderfinger, 1994-2000, Odyssey Number Five, Vulture Street and Flea (musician), a total of 17 articles, were promoted to good article status; a record month. With the addition of Loveless (album) and Internationalist (album) (which were promoted to good and featured article status in the same month), this brings the total up to 19 GAs for December! Starting this month, the newsletter will contain a new feature that lists a recommended alternative rock album for project members to check out and help expand their knowledge of the genre. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Archers of Loaf - Icky Mettle (1993).

New members Pjoef, WeBuriedOurSecretsInTheGarden, Argezas, Pbroks13 and Paper Back Writer 23 joined the alternative music fold during December. Editors User:CloudNine User:WesleyDodds

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WikiProject Alternative music January 2008 Newsletter

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 10 - January 2008

"I still have people come up to me like, 'I really, really liked your last record.' 'Oh, thanks!' 'Are you going to do "Loser" tonight?' I'm like, 'Look, I'm six foot six. Beck is five foot sex, all right?'"- Thurston Moore Project news Radiohead, Slay Tracks (1933-1969), David Lovering, "I Don't Remember", U2, R.E.M., Anodyne (album) and Niandra Lades and Usually Just a T-Shirt reached featured article status in the past month, a record month for the WikiProject! Additionally, with the promotion of Radiohead, U2 and R.E.M., half of our Top Importance articles now have featured article status. Well done to Atlantik, Brandt Luke Zorn, CloudNine, the various WikiProject Powderfinger editors, Merbabu, WesleyDodds, Teemu08, NSR77 and Grim-Gym. The discographies of Dischord Records and Load Records reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Drewcifer3000 (who wrote both featured lists). Powderfinger discography reached featured topic status during the past month. Well done to the various WikiProject Powderfinger editors. We collaborated on Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, Franz Ferdinand (band), PJ Harvey and Michael Stipe during the past month. During the month of January, Rage Against the Machine, Pick Up the Pace, "Lost and Running", Bernard Fanning, Year Zero (album), Jon Coghill, "Losing My Religion" and "Touch Me I'm Sick" were promoted to good article status. Sign up for our B-class article drive on the project talk page! The goal is to increase a number of the project's B-class articles to GA or FA status within two months. The B-class article drive will run from February 1 to April 1, 2008. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is My Bloody Valentine - Isn't Anything (1988).

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The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 12 - March 2008

"Expressions of irony through clothing are very important.'"- Carlos Dengler Project news "Just Like Heaven" (song), Flea (musician), Bernard Fanning, Odyssey Number Five, In Rainbows and Silverchair reached featured article status in the past month! Additionally "This Charming Man", a former Featured Article, has been re-promoted to FA status. Well done to WesleyDodds, NSR77, Grim-Gym, the various WikiProject Powderfinger editors, Atlantik, Ceoil and Dihydrogen Monoxide. The discography of Silverchair reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Dihydrogen Monoxide. Surfer Rosa was featured on the Main Page on March 21. We collaborated on In Rainbows, Vitalogy, The White Stripes, Blur (band) and Accelerate (R.E.M. album) during the past month. During the month of March, Nine Inch Nails live performances, Oasis (band), Boredoms, Hoodoo Gurus, and Vitalogy were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Editors - An End Has a Start (2007).

New members NewMarqueeDayMoonRising, Thundermaster, and SuperNeek joined the alternative music fold during March. Editors User:WesleyDodds

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The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 13 - April 2008

"God is in your scrotum!'"- Perry Farrell Project news This month was the first in over a year in which no articles were promoted to featured article status. In the period between March 2007 and April 2008, the project produced a whopping 70 Featured Articles. Let's keep adding to those numbers! Pearl Jam was featured on the Main Page on April 22. We collaborated on My Bloody Valentine, The Queen Is Dead, Double Nickels on the Dime and Ten (Pearl Jam album) during the past month. During the month of April, Diorama (album), Editors, Neon Bible, Ghosts I–IV, "Yes! I Am a Long Way from Home" and "Who Really Cares (Featuring the Sound of Insanity)" were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Sleater-Kinney - Dig Me Out (1997).

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Pink Floyd album covers removal

I noticed that you removed some jpeg images pertaining to PF albums. I thought that Wikipedia was allowed to host album covers. Something has changed recently? (please note that I've not contributed to this site for several months, due to the cyberstalking behaviour of some pretentious guy(s). regardsDoktor Who (talk) 01:07, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

Hello Doktor, I started doing this a while ago, and guessed that someone would question it eventually. You're the first! :) I have not removed images from album articles, only album images from song articles. I did this after noticing:

1. several discussions on the Village Pump mentioning that fair use rules state cover art can only be used once for the article about the album, and not for additional articles about songs, nor for any other purpose, even though there are many examples where this rule is not being followed
2. a recent challenge attached to the JPEG for Atom Heart Mother, which was added by Fairusebot and later removed, presumably because my edits addressed the problem, see history page for the JPEG
3. the actual infobox instructions: Template:Infobox Song

In addition, I have been removing jpegs for covers of singles where they appear a second time in the article for the B-side song, as I see no reason why the same rule would not apply here.

I realize some people may not like these edits, or may feel it is a step backward in the development of these articles. I think it is a step forward, bringing articles up to standards. Since this is a legal issue, principles of "be bold" and "ignore the rules" are not applicable. If you can provide any evidence that I'm in the wrong, let me know. Also, thanks for your vigilence. --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 01:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

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The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 14 - May 2008

"I go to a fucking office and I write. I'm not one of these dickheads who opens a beer, high fives his mates and opens his mouth and shit pours out, which he then writes on a beer mat. It doesn't come easy."- Nick Cave Project news "Touch Me I'm Sick", Diorama (album) and Nine Inch Nails live performances reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to Indopug, Dihydrogen Monoxide, and Drewcifer3000. The discographies of Sonic Youth, The Libertines, Foo Fighters and Smoking Popes reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Drewcifer3000, Indopug, Tenacious D Fan and Teemu08. We collaborated on Superunknown, Supergrass, Kate Bush and Foo Fighters during the past month. During the month of May, The Killers, "Under the Bridge", Death Cab for Cutie, Bloc Party, Coldplay, Beck and Ten (Pearl Jam album) were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Cocteau Twins - Treasure (1984).

New members Seraphim Whipp, Guitardude3600, Lunar Jesters, Kristmace, Freedom (song), TwentiethApril1986, JD554, Thom, and Sethward joined the alternative music fold during May. Editors User:WesleyDodds

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The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 15 - June 2008

"I've gotten into communication states with cats where I know I heard their voices in my head and we'd sit around and have conversations with each other. Like me and one cat there, one cat there and one cat there and I would sit there for like three hours talking to them before I realized 'I can't believe I've been talking to cats for three hours.'" - John Frusciante Project news "Under the Bridge" and Year Zero (album) reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to NSR77 and Drewcifer3000. List of Nine Inch Nails tours and the discographies of The Strokes, Faith No More, Pearl Jam, Echo & the Bunnymen and Death Cab for Cutie reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Drewcifer3000, Indopug, Balthazar, -5-, JD554, and Teemu08. Wilco was featured on the Main Page on June 8. We collaborated on "Under the Bridge", Siouxsie & the Banshees, I Should Coco, Stone Temple Pilots, and MTV Unplugged in New York during the past month. During the month of June, Double Nickels on the Dime, Jeff Buckley, and "In Bloom" were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Art Brut - Bang Bang Rock & Roll (2005).

New members Fvasconcellos and Alternative_Idiot joined the alternative music fold during June. Editors User:WesleyDodds

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for July 2008

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 16 - July 2008

"We are the best band in the world....modestly the best band in the world." - Darren Middleton Project news List of Nine Inch Nails live-band members, List of The Killers awards, and the discographies of Kaiser Chiefs, Soundgarden, Garbage, and Mark Lanegan reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Underneath-it-All, Drewcifer3000, -5-, WilliamH, and Be Black Hole Sun. R.E.M. was featured on the Main Page on July 10. We collaborated on With Teeth, American Idiot, Weezer, and "Creep" (Radiohead song) during the past month. During the month of July, The Black Parade, Arcade Fire, and "Live Forever" were promoted to good article status. We are currently discussing various alternative rock albums as possible candidates for a project-wide Featured Topic collaboration. Please join the discussion here. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Stone Temple Pilots - Tiny Music... Songs from the Vatican Gift Shop (1996).

New members Arbocalaviv, Samushi101, Carbonrodney, Red157, and dmodlin71 joined the alternative music fold during July. Editors User:WesleyDodds

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for August 2008

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 17 - August 2008

"Oh, we've been called an alternative band before. But we eat meat, so I think we're disqualified: chili dogs, corn dogs, Jimmy Dean Sausage Breakfast."- Kurt Cobain Project news "My Happiness" (song) reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to Giggy. Isobel Campbell discography, List of Nine Inch Nails awards, List of Soundgarden awards, and List of Pearl Jam awards reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Red157, Drewcifer3000, -5-, and Be Black Hole Sun. Flea (musician) was featured on the Main Page on August 19. We collaborated on "Interstate Love Song", The Smiths, Viva la Vida or Death and All His Friends, Sub Pop, and Bleach (album) during the past month. During the month of August, Superunknown, Vs. (Pearl Jam album), Black Holes & Revelations, "Clocks" (song), and Disintegration were promoted to good article status. We are currently discussing various alternative rock albums as possible candidates for a project-wide Featured Topic collaboration. Please join the discussion here. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Velocity Girl - Copacetic (1993).

New members Corythepaperboy, Hiram111, Yozzer66, and Lugnuts joined the alternative music fold during August. Editors User:WesleyDodds

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Hello , I created an article about Angband, but It was deleted. once the creator claimed they are the first metal band from Iran to sign a deal with a European records company but didnt have enough sources, I have many sources like: www.lordsofmetal.nl , www.stormbringer.at , www.localradio.pehzeh.net www.metal-rules.com and their album has a good feedback, I created a page in my sandbox: User:Spada2/Sandbox would you please take a look at it and the question I have: can I create the page not mentioning the first band thing due to their positive feedbacks? Thanks in advance. --Spada2 (talk) 10:53, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for September 2008

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 18 - September 2008

"And suddenly the plane dropped to the right, then to the left, and the ground was right there. And all I could think was, Fuck, I didn’t finish "Fix You." That would have been my last thought: I didn’t get that chorus right."- Chris Martin Project news Disintegration reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to NSR77 and WesleyDodds. List of Björk awards, List of Rage Against the Machine awards, and List of awards and nominations received by Muse reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Gary King, who wrote all three featured lists. David Lovering was featured on the Main Page on September 17. We collaborated on Parklife, Tragic Kingdom, Bauhaus (band), and OK Computer during the past month. During the month of September, The White Stripes, "Yellow" (song), No Depression (album), "Speed of Sound" (song), "The Scientist" (song), "God Put a Smile upon Your Face", "In My Place", Demolition Plot J-7, No Age, and "All the Way" (Eddie Vedder song) were promoted to good article status. Help us select good versions of WP:ALM articles for inclusion on the Wikipedia 0.7 release! Find out more about Wikipedia 0.7 selection on the project talk page and add your thoughts to the discussion. If you are personally responsible for a Featured or Good Article listed here, please the select a version to include in Wikipedia 0.7 on that page if you haven't already. Page versions must be selected by October 20. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is The Long Blondes - Someone to Drive You Home (2006).

New members ThinkBlue joined the alternative music fold during September. Editors User:WesleyDodds

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WikiProject Rock music Newsletter for October 2008

The Rock music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 9 - October 2008

"As long as my face is on page one, I don't care what they say about me on page seventeen."- Mick Jagger Project news The project has a total of 106 GAs and 91 Featured Articles and Lists put together. We collaborated on Soul Bomb. Help us select good versions of WP:ROCK articles for inclusion on the Wikipedia 0.7 release! Find out more about Wikipedia 0.7 selection on the project talk page and add your thoughts to the discussion. If you are personally responsible for a Featured or Good Article listed here, please the select a version to include in Wikipedia 0.7 on that page if you haven't already. Page versions must be selected by October 20. The genres in infobox fields have been removed cause of the discussion found here Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Music#Time to remove genre section on info box?. You can provide any opinions you may have about this. This month's "Recommended Rock Album" is Soundgarden - Superunknown (1994).

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Pink Floyd live articles

You recently reverted a change [1] identified as vandalism, of a poorly worded addition of someone named "Hamilton", done by an anon IP in the article, Pink Floyd live performances. I looked at the editor's other changes, and found he also added this name to Pink Floyd Live Backing Musicians, which was not reverted, and is possibly a good faith edit. Maybe the reverted change should not have been reverted. I've never noticed the latter article before; it is not linked from many places, and is not in the Pink Floyd template. I was thinking of proposing a merge, but both articles are a good size, and I'm not sure if this is a good idea. Any ideas on what to do next? ("Nothing" is an option!) --A Knight Who Says Ni (talk) 22:50, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for October 2008

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 19 - October 2008

"When we were trying to sell 'This Corrosion' to Steinman, we said it was like the high point of a Borgia disco evening and he went for it. Nobody makes gloriously stupid records anymore."- Andrew Eldritch Project news "Paranoid Android" reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to Brandt Luke Zorn and Giggy. List of awards and nominations received by The White Stripes, List of awards and nominations received by The Strokes, List of awards and nominations received by Nirvana, List of awards and nominations received by Beck, List of awards and nominations received by Gorillaz, List of awards and nominations received by Barenaked Ladies, and the discographies of The White Stripes and Supergrass reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Gary King, Red157, and TwentiethApril1986. A Rush of Blood to the Head reached good topic status during the past month. Well done to ThinkBlue. We collaborated on Modest Mouse, "Paranoid Android", "Alright" (Supergrass song), and "Karma Police" during the past month. During the month of October, Parachutes, X&Y, A Rush of Blood to the Head, Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness, The Singles 1992–2003, I Should Coco, The Beacon Street Collection, Tragic Kingdom, and "No One Knows" were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Siouxsie & the Banshees - Juju (1981).

New members SanePsychotic joined the alternative music fold during October. Editors User:WesleyDodds

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for November 2008

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 20 - November 2008

"I had access to the most quality fanny available." - Jarvis Cocker Project news No Depression (album) reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to Teemu08. List of awards and nominations received by Bloc Party and List of awards and nominations received by Radiohead reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Gary King and WilliamH. We collaborated on Blessid Union of Souls, Britpop, Morrissey, Yield (album), and "No Surprises" during the past month. During the month of November, No Doubt (No Doubt album), "The Hardest Part" (Coldplay song), "Talk" (song), "Violet Hill" (song), "Don't Panic" (song), and "Fix You" were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters (1995).

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for December 2008

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 21 - December 2008

"Anthony's a sex symbol. You see the thing is for the girls they're like 'oh Anthony he's so beautiful! And his muscles and his hair and oh golly he's so sexy!' but with me its like [with men] 'DUDE YOU'RE SO AWESOME...WOW DUDE. WOW!" - Flea Project news The Cure discography and Audioslave discography reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to JD554 and Cannibaloki. Parachutes and Hey Venus! reached good topic status during the past month. Well done to ThinkBlue and Cavie78. We collaborated on Thom Yorke, Dirt (album), Suede (band), and Nothing's Shocking during the past month. During the month of December, In Utero and White Lies (band) were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Badly Drawn Boy - Have You Fed the Fish? (2002).

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for February 2009

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 23 - February 2009

"I want to find the guy that invented compression and tear his liver out. I hate it. It makes everything sound like a beer commercial." - Steve Albini Project news In Utero reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to WesleyDodds. The discographies of Bauhaus and Sigur Rós reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to JD554 and Matthewedwards. Year Zero (album) was featured on the Main Page on February 2. We collaborated on "All Apologies", Shoegazing, The Stone Roses, and The Jesus and Mary Chain during the past month. During the month of February, Augie March, Modern Life Is Rubbish, "Give It Away" (Red Hot Chili Peppers song), and The Get Up Kids were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Mudhoney - Superfuzz Bigmuff (1988).

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for March 2009

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 24 - March 2009

"I got a lot of shit for the Rolling Stone review of Reckoning because the guy really likes my guitar style and he wrote, 'on this record, Pete Buck does everything.' We'd stop for gas and it would be, 'Pete Buck does everything. Why don't you go pump the gas, Pete?'" - Peter Buck Project news Yeah Yeah Yeahs discography reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Drewcifer3000. We collaborated on Liam Gallagher, Riot Act (album), Automatic for the People, Jane's Addiction, and "Give It Away" (Red Hot Chili Peppers song) during the past month. During the month of March, "Lovers in Japan", "Hello Sunshine", Evergreen, Reckoning (R.E.M. album), Love Kraft, "Golden Retriever" (song), and Delorentos were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Hüsker Dü - New Day Rising (1985).

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for April 2009

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 25 - April 2009

"The other day I had these Jehovah's Witnesses come round to my house, and they tried to convince me that the Pope was the Devil's representative on Earth. So I told them that Jesus was the world's first communist. So they left. They were genuinely enraged.'" - Ian Brown Project news We collaborated on The Stone Roses (album), "Don't Speak", Indie rock, and Eddie Vedder during the past month. During the month of April, Slow Life, "Lost!", and Phantom Phorce were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Stereolab - Chemical Chords (2008).

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for May 2009

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 26 - May 2009

"Well, I remember hearing girls behind me in English class talking about turning 18 and being old enough to strip. It wasn't that weird at the time.'" - Brandon Flowers Project news John Frusciante and U2 were featured on the Main Page on May 2 and 26. We collaborated on The Bends, Interpol (band), "How Soon Is Now?", "Hand in Glove", and "I Wanna Be Adored" during the past month. During the month of May, Fantasy Black Channel was promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Camera Obscura - Let's Get Out of This Country (2006).

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for June 2009

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 27 - June 2009

"The only confusion was, I think we all thought they were women. Kim was obviously a woman, but they all had this shaved-headed, pretty, soft look. And there were lots of lesbian bands at the time, and we always got booked with them, so we just thought the Pixies were another, like maybe they were like angry divorcees or somthing that formed a band.'" - Kristin Hersh Project news Fantasy Black Channel reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to Rafablu88. List of awards and nominations received by Snow Patrol reached featured list status during the past month. Well done to Suede67. Phantom Power reached good topic status during the past month. Well done to Cavie78. In Utero was featured on the Main Page on June 20. We collaborated on (What's the Story) Morning Glory?, Silent Alarm, Pornography (album), and Bossanova during the past month. During the month of June, Phantom Power (Super Furry Animals album) was promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is They Might Be Giants - They Might Be Giants (1986).

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Help request

{{helpme}} I am willing to create a Category pertaining to the band Gong, but I'm unsure if it can be kept as "Category:Gong" or must be created as "Category:Gong (band)"

Is there more than one article about this? There is a category; Category:Gong albums, check it out. --Cubs197 (talk) 04:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I've had a look into this a bit; whilst there are naming conventions for sub-categories for e.g. albums or whatever, there does not seem to be any defined convention for the whole shebang.

Hence, there is already Category:Gong albums, but if you're looking for an appropriate category for e.g. the band members articles, or something like that, then I'm not sure. I think that the simple answer is, it's up to you. I think, personally, that the same general naming conventions would apply - same as articles - in other words, as there is no Category:Gong at present, then it would be correct to create it. It would only be necessary to qualify it as Category:Gong (band) if there was an existing Category:Gong (for example, regarding the musical instrument).

The link for info about subcats is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (categories)#Works of art categories by artist.

Sorry for not having a simpler answer, but I hope this helps a little. Personally, I'd run with Category:Gong. Feel free to use another helpme to get more advice on it - or, I suppose, ask on Wikipedia talk:Categorization. Cheers,  Chzz  ►  04:29, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Hello, thanks to you both. The Gong are somewhat like a supergroup or even a music scene, due the huge amount of formations, splits, side-projects and so on that they were and are involved in. So I'll make a Category:Gong shortly (provided that I'll decide to come back here again).--Doktor Who (talk) 16:19, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

You're welcome, and remember if you need more help, you can either;

• Leave a message on my own talk page; OR
• Use a {{helpme}} - please create a new section at the end of your own talk page, put {{helpme}}, and ask your question - remember to 'sign' your name by putting ~~~~ at the end; OR
• Talk to us live, with this or this.

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for July 2009

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 28 - July 2009

"I rip off more fuckin' people than anyone in the world. I rip off my own rip-offs." - Jared Followill Project news Silent Alarm reached featured article status in the past month! Well done to Rafablu88. We collaborated on Trompe le Monde, Bush (band), Debut (album), and Hot Fuss during the past month. During the month of July, Intimacy (Bloc Party album) and "Hand in Glove" were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Ride - Going Blank Again (1992).

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WikiProject Alternative Music Newsletter for August 2009

The Alternative music WikiProject Newsletter Issue 29 - August 2009

"We've been having lots of sex, and we're pregnant with the new baby already. It's vicious! It will have claws, like Freddy Kruger's lovechild.'" - Tom Meighan Project news Alice in Chains was featured on the Main Page on August 27. We collaborated on "Panic" (song), Daydream Nation, Kings of Leon, Goo (album), and Suede (album) during the past month. During the month of August, Nevermind and "Harry Patch (In Memory Of)" were promoted to good article status. This month's "Recommended Alternative Album" is Galaxie 500 - On Fire (1989).

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