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Jiang, I think that the Liu Ju article should start with his personal name -- because although people might not immediately know who "Liu Ju" is, far fewer people would know who "Crown Prince Li" is (in English or Chinese). Was there a reason to change the order? --Nlu08:45, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
But in this case, Crown Prince Li is not a full name; it's a posthumous name. I don't see an analogy. Can you elaborate? --Nlu09:08, 26 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
by "full name" I mean "formal name". A posthumous name, not the personal name, is the name by which a person is properly known in all contexts. Mary, Queen of Scots is seldom "Mary I". I don't see what's wrong with starting the article is the full proper name as is done everywhere else in wikipedia. The article's location is another matter. --Jiang04:24, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
However, the convention here appears to be going by "common name," and you're rarely going to hear Liu Ju being referred to as Crown Prince Li. For example, Liu Bei (before I touched it, and it is still that way after I touched it) starts as "Liu Bei," not as "Emperor Zhaolie of Shu Han." --Nlu04:38, 27 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
im probably wrong on the convention. (solly!) but i think "(戾太子) (literally, "the Unrepentent Crown Prince")" should be done within the same parenthesis instead of two. two parenthesis closing and opening in succession is unsightly.
