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    Welcome—ask questions about how to use or edit Wikipedia! (Am I in the right place?)
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    May 7

    accurasy

    I was tempararily disqualified from the military for some past issuse I had. I was researching the prire claims to check their validity. Is the information here accuret enough to say if I was misdiognosed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.220.96.212 (talk) 01:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Probably not. If we're talking about a medical diagnosis, then certainly not. Seek advice from a medical professional. caknuck ° needs to be running more often 02:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    "They did it in another article so I can do it here"

    What is the link to that policy page? Thanks Mjpresson (talk) 03:08, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    You might be thinking of WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. Dismas|(talk) 03:15, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Why do we have to use geek formatting to enter articles?

    Why can't entering be easier, like a word processor article, rather than all the formatting we have to learn. I'd like to enter articles, but make it so complicated for the common man. Seems elitist. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manncer (talkcontribs) 05:45, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    The main reason that a markup language is used is because writing a WYSIWYG editor for use on the internet isn't that easy, especially when you want very complex behavior to be possible. So no one has designed a particularly good alternative to the syntax currently used. Secondly, many people are used to it now - and getting them all to change could be difficult. However, the new layout of Wikipedia (coming May 28 I believe), which you can test by clicking the Try Beta link on the top of the page, has a more familiar toolbar interface you might find helpful. Prodego talk 05:49, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    New (dated) Article not in Search-box - Old Article undated

    I’ve recently written an Article: Kingdom of Great Britain 1603-1714, which is not appearing in the “Search-box.” Also, there is an existing Article: Kingdom of Great Britain, (undated – which should state 1714-1801), which automatically appears in the “Search-box.” May I request that the New article be listed in the search-box, also, that the Old article “title” is now dated, to avoid confusion? Regards Stephen2nd (talk) 10:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    New articles are not always immediately added to searches. It is normal that it takes a day or two for the search index to be updated. Please see Help:Searching#Delay in updating the search index for more information about this. --Mysdaao talk 12:14, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Notability tag for a specific person in a list of names?

    The only notability tag I could find applies to an article as a whole. If there is a listing of people, and I feel that one of the people listed is not notable enough to be listed, how should I tag something like that? Thanks. Error9900 (talk) 14:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    It's generally accepted that people should have pre-existing articles that establish notability, so it's okay to go ahead and remove them. However, there are always exceptions to this, because a redlinked entry in a list isn't necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes it's an indication that an article needs to be created on the subject, especially if there's a valid citation from a reliable source that confirms some notability. Regardless, it's always a good idea to bring it up the article's talk page, if there's any chance of it being controversial. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:26, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I just realized that I never answered your question. You can use {{List fact}} (which also has links to tags for other good situations and examples) next to an entry if you wish to tag something questioning it's inclusion on a list. You can also warn a user who adds a dubious redlinked entry with {{Uw-badlistentry}}. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 14:37, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    In general, it is perfectly acceptable to list a person in an article, including a list article, even though the person does not meet Wikipedia notability guidelines for an article about the person. Whether the person is relevant enough to the article to be mentioned is a topic for the article's talk page. Jc3s5h (talk) 15:10, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Toyoto Yaris Interior on Door Handle and the plastic panel on A/C flip , Radio, or A/C control buttons

    Dear Sir,

    I am really very surprised, to see in the news, that Toyota is planing to sale 3.5 million cars in china. I have been the lover of Toyota since 1977, since I have been driving the Car, and so far I have been very much satisfied with the sales and services. I stayed in Dubai for 28 years and the service over there has been excellent by Al Futtim, I stayed in Oman for 8 Years and the service was the best ever i have experience from Suhail Saud Bahavn's. I am not staying in China since 2002, so far had a good satisfaction with Honda for few years, but than shifted myself to Toyota Camry I am really very much satisfied with the services they have been providing by their Branches in Paujiang Keqiao Shaoxing, zhejiang. I dont know something make me feel to buy Toyota Yaris, I had seen this car at Dubai, and booked one car here, when received the car after 3 months I was really very much disappointed with the quality they have used for the interior or plastic pars on Door Handles Light Grey Color, it looks so cheap, seems the chinese cars are using the better quality than this, hope toyota management should look into this matter urgently, and try to keep their image, still the car is in showroom since last month, whereas I have paid all the money to them, dont feel like taking the delivery. Now not only this, the inside panel in front in center where there is Switches for A/C control or there is Audio System and there is A/c Air flow, if you will check carefully, it is sliver all over but it is having the white milky plastic flips for air flow of A/C, it looks very cheap,

    May I suggest and request to the management of Toyota China, Please try to change this parts immediately and try to use the better quality, no matter if you charge little bit higher to your customers, but, please try to keep the good image of toyota, already the image has been bad since last few months and people have lost the confidence on toyota in china, and lot of stocks are with dealers here.

    Thanks & Best Regards Narendra Bhambwani —Preceding unsigned comment added by Narudubai (talkcontribs) 15:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. TNXMan 15:27, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    You were THE lover of toyota? Nice!

    Robert Simon Telfer Scott DSM and HMS Havelock

    Hi

    I was wondering if you could help me please.

    My late uncle served in the Royal Navy for over 23years and in the last world war was in Norway on HMS Havelock which was a destroyer and he was given the DSM Medal which he got at Buckingham Palace from the then King on the 13th March 1940. He was at that time a leading seaman on that ship and was given the Medal for somthing that occured in Norway in 1940.

    The problem is none of the familt that are left no how or why he got that medal as he never spoke about the war . ai have sat here for hours trying different things to find out to noevail.

    Can you help me please or at least point me in the right direction .

    I have tel the Navel sec andi cannot beleive what he said which is as follows the records or citation were at Kew but have now been destroyed,why they should do that without copying them onto micro is beyond beleive.

    I DO HOPE YOU CAN HELP AS I HAVE RUN OUT OF IDEARS.

    He was born on the 3rd Dec 1910 and died on the 15th March 1991.

    I have the full history of the ship he was on but nothing about him. I also was able to get the entry in the London Gasette but it does not say what the medal was for. His Navel no was p/jx 130249.

    Thank you,

    Dallas woods Mr. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.67.84.209 (talk) 15:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is really for asking for help with Wikipedia, but I understand your frustration - I have been researching my own family's history recently. You will probably get a more helpful response at the Miscellaneous section of the Reference Desk or (though it's a little out-of-scope) at the talk page of the Military History Project. If you don't have any success there, please contact me by e-mail and I will see what else I can figure out. – ukexpat (talk) 16:13, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I am copying this query to my talk page (here) - I'll see if I can find some information on this next week when I am at home (rather than at my girlfriend') and have access to my various books and links to the websites I use! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:51, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    References

    I am currently working on the page, Sam Gyimah using http://www.samgyimah.com/about/about-sam as a source. If I want to write the sentence, "Sam Gyimah (born 10 April 1976) is a British Conservative politician, who has been the Member of Parliament for Surrey East since 2010" must I use an inline citation for the date of birth here and in the infobox or will one do? --Quentin Smith 16:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Once is OK (usually in the body of the article), but if you do want to use the same ref multiple times, please see WP:NAMEDREFS for guidance. Also note that although he may have won the constituency election yesterday, he will not formally be an MP until sworn in at the opening of the next Parliament. – ukexpat (talk) 16:19, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    HOT TO LOOK FOR AN ANSWER

    I recently posted a question. I want to know if it has been answered. What should I do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.77.202.204 (talk) 18:22, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    At the top of this page, there is a place where you can search the help desk archives. If you remember your question, you can type in some of the words from it in the search bar and see if it has been answered. TNXMan 18:26, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    This only works if you posted it here at the help desk. There are no other posts by the IP address 200.77.202.204 so we cannot say where you posted or what it was about. Questions are stored where they were asked and answers are given in the same section. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:56, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Troubling inserting logo into article

    Hello, I cannot seem to get our company logo inserted into an article that I compiled. I received a message recently that my logo was an "orphan." Can you please tell me or send me to a page with EASY instructions? I work on Web sites for a living but for the life of me cannot figure this one out!

    Thank you.... HS —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hschudrowitz (talkcontribs) 18:28, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    A tutorial that explains how to add images to an article can be found at the page Wikipedia:Picture tutorial. Unfortunately, per the deletion log, the logo that you had uploaded has already been deleted. In addition, you shouldn't really be creating or editing articles about organizations that you are affiliated with; for more information, please read the page Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. I hope this helps. --SoCalSuperEagle (talk) 19:38, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. Note that you both have to upload the logo and edit the article you want it shown in. Templates like {{Logo fur}} must have an equal sign between parameter names and their assigned value. For example Article = The Movement Disorder Society. Your deleted image page had the equal sign after the value or not at all. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:51, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Local fraternity chapter Fakepage warning?

    User:Epsilonphi.PhiSigmaPi.Historian has created and continues to work on a WP:FAKEARTICLE for his local fraternity chapter on his user page. While I made an initial comment on his user talk, I'm not sure were to go from here. Local Fraternity chapters are *very* rarely viewed as notable.Naraht (talk) 18:40, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Yep. Tag it for WP:MFD. Ping me if you need help, but I am going to be in and out. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 19:25, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    No need, already been speedily deleted per WP:CSD#G11 and the username blocked as a spamname. – ukexpat (talk) 20:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    "Take 5" Jazz Tune as a TV/Movie Theme?

    Hi,

    Can anyone help me remember whether the jazz tune "Take 5" has ever been used as a TV or movie theme? I think I remember this from my childhood - note that this could have been a UK-only TV programme but all suggestions welcome.

    The original is by the Dave Brubeck Quartet but the theme I seem to recall could have been a cover.

    There's a possibility that the music could have been a recurring part of a segment in the main body of the programme rather than the opening or closing theme.

    Any help gratefully appreciated.

    Thanks Wikipedians!

    --BadmanMonkey (talk) 20:27, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. – ukexpat (talk) 20:40, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Recently there was a question there asking what this song is, and that was answered. The user who posed the original question (DRosenbach (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)) might know if it was used for a TV or movie theme. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots20:42, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


    Thanks. I'm a dolt - I meant to post in the Reference Desk! I'll re-post there. --62.252.11.27 (talk) 22:18, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    makeing a page

    i need help to make a page —Preceding unsigned comment added by Globalhitrecords (talkcontribs) 20:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    A Wizard is available to walk you through these steps. See the Article Wizard.

    Thank you.
    Before creating an article, please search Wikipedia first to make sure that an article does not already exist on the subject. Please also review a few of our relevant policies and guidelines with which all articles should comply. As Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, articles must not contain original research, must be written from a neutral point of view, should cite reliable sources which verify their content and must not contain unsourced, negative content about living people.
    Articles must also demonstrate the notability of the subject. Please see our subject specific guidelines for people, bands and musicians, companies and organizations and web content and note that if you are closely associated with the subject, our conflict of interest guideline strongly recommends against you creating the article.
    If you still think an article is appropriate, see Wikipedia:Your first article. You might also look at Wikipedia:How to write a great article for guidance, and please consider taking a tour through the Wikipedia:Tutorial so that you know how to properly format the article before creation. An Article Wizard is also available to walk you through creating an article. – ukexpat (talk) 20:59, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Need assistance cleaning up

    The infobox at article Glen Pearson is displaying unwanted data around the image itself, namely unsightly Wikicode. I have never encountered it before, so if the person passing by would be so kind as to fix it, that would be fantastic. Thanks! -Pavel (Paul) (talk) 21:04, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Fixed. – ukexpat (talk) 21:13, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Infobox code is not standardized. Some infoboxes require the user to make image syntax. Others don't allow it. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:37, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    special ops us

    which service delovped special poerations in the us and over all wher was it origenated from. thank you for all your support on the history.plraes reply to <email removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.250.196.242 (talk) 21:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Goodvac (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Avatar/anuerisms

    avatar/anuerisms can you tell me about the movie and how it affects people who have had a anuerism ? <email removed> thank you. 38.118.52.78 (talk) 21:23, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Have you tried Wikipedia's Reference Desk? They specialize in knowledge questions and will try to answer just about any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link, select the relevant section, and ask away. I hope this helps. Goodvac (talk) 22:35, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    User Redirect

    Since my username is rather long, how can I create a page to redirect to any of my pages with my prefix, if the prefix is substituted with an acronym instead of my username? E.G., User:TTTSNB and User:NSD both are redirects to their respective long-named userpages. When I create a redirect, I don't want to mess up things and accidentally steal a username. What do I do? 2D Backfire Master tempus fugit 22:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    You can see which usernames are taken at Special:ListUsers. 2DBM is not taken. You can create an account with it by clicking "Create one" at Special:UserLogin while you are logged in to your normal account so the logs will show that you created it. Then redirect User:2DBM. If you consider editing as 2DBM then see Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. The easiest way to avoid problems is to only edit with one account. Always sign posts with links directly to the true name of the account you are logged in to. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:29, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi Wikipedia Folks - I was browsing the web for some definitions of the word "niche" and noticed that on the wikipedia index page for that term (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niche) that someone has posted an affiliate link to a paid event about niche marketing - I am assuming that this is not in compliance with wikipedia policies and guidelines and wanted to bring it to your attention rather than just go ahead and delete it.

    Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.147.149.143 (talk) 23:05, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks for pointing that out. I've removed it. Goodvac (talk) 23:07, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    OUT OF COUNTRY

    with your network can I make/receive call while in China. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.71.42.74 (talk) 23:10, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:11, 7 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    And anyway, Wikipedia is not a 'network' with which you can make/receive calls. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 17:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    May 8

    Citing interpretation boards

    Can anyone point me to some sort of policy on using information/interpretation boards as a source in an article, and how to go about citing it (I have looked but haven't had much joy, hence my query)? In this case I'd like to use an official information board produced by the Royal Armouries in one of their museums, so I'm fairly certain its reliable. Cheers in advance, Ranger Steve (talk) 10:27, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    The Reliable sources Noticeboard is the place to ask whether a particular source can be cited. If you want to know the technial details of creating the cite, see WP:CITE and footnotes --SPhilbrickT 12:07, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks Sphilbrick. I'd just started looking through the RS noticeboard (with no joy so far), and there doesn't appear to be a cite template in Category:Citation templates either. Off to ask the question I guess. I'm a bit surprised this hasn't been asked before anywhere though! Ranger Steve (talk) 12:37, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Kindly read WP:RS and WP:V for understanding the policy on why and what kind of sources to use in any wikipedia article. Kindly read Wikipedia:CITE#Summary which very clearly describes a simple method of citing sources. Write back for any help. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 17:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    If a sign is not under copyright, you can upload a photo of it to Wikimedia Commons. Then the photo itself would support claims based on the text on the sign. See Commons:COM:CB#Road signs for a related example. However, since you used the word "Royal" then the sign you refer to may be under Crown Copyright or some such. You might ask the people responsible for the sign the following questions:
    • Do they assert any copyright claims over faithful 2D reproductions of their sign? (I.e., your photograph of it.) See Commons:COM:EIC#Permreq if you need to request permission.
    • Who wrote the text on the sign, and what sources did they use? If the source material for the sign has already been published, you could cite that. Most likely, the information did not originally appear on the sign itself, it probably came from somewhere else.
    You should search Wikipedia for keywords and phrases from the sign. Maybe someone has already added that content to Wikipedia in an article you haven't seen. You should also search the wider Web for those keywords and phrases; maybe that will turn up a publication you can cite. --Teratornis (talk) 18:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Userpage inaccessibility

    I have logged in but am unable to access my userpage. Instead I get Error 404 coming up. Can you help please ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Roy Duke Evans (talkcontribs) 11:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Your userpage User:Roy Duke Evans has not been created yet. After creating an account you have to create your userpage if you want one. Just write something in the box and click Save page. If you don't see an empty box for writing at User:Roy Duke Evans then post again and say which browser you have. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:06, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    User namespace category

    Is it allowed to create user namespace category? --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 12:17, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    What do you mean? Categories are located in the Category namespace. It is perfectly permissible to create categories that contain userpages, for example Category:User de-2 or Category:Wikipedians in Virginia. Xenon54 (talk) 12:30, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Hot Air Balloon Rides

    I understand there is a company in the Beaver Falls Area that offers hot air balloon rides. Would appreciate it if you would let me know the name of the company and a phone number, or e-mail address. Thank you, Bert Lindstrom —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.75.58.188 (talk) 14:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello. I suspect, based on your question, that you found one of our roughly three million articles, and thought that we were directly affiliated in some way with that subject. Please note that you are at Wikipedia, the free online encyclopedia that anyone can edit, and this page is a help desk for asking questions related to using the encyclopedia. Thus, we have no inside track on the subject of your question. You can, however, search our vast catalogue of articles by typing a subject into the search field on the left hand side of your screen. If you cannot find what you are looking for, we have a reference desk, divided into various subject areas, where asking knowledge questions is welcome. Best of luck.Template:Z25 TNXMan 14:10, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    This help desk is for questions about using Wikipedia, as announced prominently at the top of the page. General knowledge questions may be asked at a relevant section of the reference desk. However, for something like this, search engines are your friend. Simply entering into Google "Beaver Falls" "hot air balloon" is really all you need, and probably all anyone else would do to answer such a question.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 14:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    A Google search with the term "Beaver Falls" Area "hot air balloon" yielded more than 8000 hits - there are probably more than one company in the Beaver Falls Area that offers this! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I can't log in, even with new password sent by Wikipedia

    I can't log in with my old (stored) password, nor with my new one, just sent to me by Wikipedia. Any ideas? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.146.5.120 (talk) 14:37, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Remember that passwords are case sensitive. If you are still having problems, we would need to know your username to see if we can re-send your password (if you don't want to reveal your username as that will show your IP, you - or one of us - can contact Oversight to have your IP removed from this page's history for this query) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:42, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Some users confuse wikis so just to make sure: Are your account, login attempt and password request all at http://en.wikipedia.org? PrimeHunter (talk) 14:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Images don't show up

    Hi, My problem is the images don't show up, only empty frame with informations In side, please help me for that,thank you very much in advance ( I use Internet Explorer ) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.110.96.8 (talk) 16:48, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Could you give an example of an article where this happens? Does it happen in all articles with images, or just some? Without a bit more information, it's hard to give good advice! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:58, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Try this. In your Internet Explorer browser, click on Tools > Options > Advanced... Scroll down in the box that opens till you reach the section on "Multimedia", and check (tick) on the option there that says "Show Pictures". Save your changes, close your browser, try again to open the page in question. Tell us if this works. ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ ―Œ ♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣ 17:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    You said (below) that it was all articles, which indicates that it is either a problem on your computer, or with your Internet Service Provider. Try following Wifione's advice, and let us know how you got on. Do you see images at other websites (try this one: CBeebies website)? -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    If the above solution doesn't work and if your computer has antivirus software with web-filtering enabled, then you will probably need to either disable the web-filtering feature or add the site upload.wikimedia.org to the filter's whitelist. --SoCalSuperEagle (talk) 18:56, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Images don't show up (again)

    Images don't show up,only empty frame. In all articles —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.110.96.8 (talk) 17:20, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see the section immediately above this one, where we responded to the last time you asked this question. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:47, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Is my editing all right?

    Hello. I'm Lucas Timothy. Actually, I'm neither an English native speaker nor a Scot. (Lucas Timothy is not my actual name.) Yesterday, I visited here and read the article about 'Bonnie Banks o' Loch Lomond', which was full of unpersuasiveness. Therefore, I determined to edit the article and did according to my knowledge and various data. However, I've got a message, which tells me that my editing was improper. So, I supplemented the article by linking many related sites and show objective figures. Is the article which I edited now all right? If it is still improper, please do not erase all of my editing and tell me what I should supplement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lucas Timothy (talkcontribs) 19:13, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Hi!
    Don't be put off by this, it takes some time for most editors to get the hang of things.
    I'd suggest posting a message on the talk page of the editor who welcomed you (and reverted some of your edits to The Bonnie Banks o' Loch Lomond - they seem familiar with the topic, and will be able to say what, precisely, was problematic with your edits.
    One thing I did notice was that you had links to Wikipedia articles as references - that seems quite natural, but isn't OK (since Wikipedia articles can - and do! - change quickly).
    However... the most useful thing you can do right now is read the articles linked to in your welcome message. They'll help explain the sometimes odd rules and guidelines we should follow when editing.
    Oh, and welcome and good luck!
    Cheers, TFOWRThis flag once was red 19:21, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Linking to my website under 'External Links'

    Wikipedia:

    I run the World Architecture Map (WAM) website, and many of my pages link to Wikipedia pages dealing with the same subject matter. I would like to link to my pages under the external links section of the Wikipedia pages, but I get a spam warning when I try to upload more than a couple in a row. Is this acceptable?

    My site is not trying to sell anything,; the links are provided to help the user out. Please let me know if posting my links on Wikipedia is seen as spam.

    Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bothamdesign (talkcontribs) 19:36, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Read the warnings on your talkpage (emphasis and internal link added): "Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product." You cannot add a link to a website you run under any circumstances. If you believe the link is appropriate, you must begin a discussion on the article's talk page and let other editors decide. Xenon54 (talk) 19:50, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Or this some sort of rescue page? Either way, I don't get it. ProveYouAreHuman (talk) 19:49, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    It's a work in progress, being written by User:Nineteen Nightmares in the article incubator. Dismas|(talk) 19:53, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    That probably should not be in the mainspace. I've moved it to Wikipedia:Article Incubator/Valley Entertainment Monthly. Thanks for catching that. Intelligentsium 22:29, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Citing a foriegn wiki

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     –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm working on User:Buggie111/ Russian battleship Sevastopol (1895). There, some facts have been tagged with {{fact}} I don't have so many refs on it, so that's pretty hard to verify. Spanish battleship Jaime I cites the Spanish wiki as a source. I'm wondering if it would be possible for me to do the same thing on my article. Buggie111 (talk) 19:58, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Not really. Wikipedia (or any other wiki) would not meet the reliability crierion, so citing them at all is in essence deceptive. Try going to the Spanish article and seeing if they cite reliable sources, then translate and, if appropriate, reference to them instead. - Jarry1250 [Humorous? Discuss.] 20:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Thought so. The russian one doesn't have any inliners, so that's a bit of a step back for me. Buggie111 (talk) 20:18, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Question about using an image on the article body painting

    An orca painted on an arm

    The article body painting has now undergone frequent changes involving the removal or re-insertion of this image.

    I personally feel that this image should not be present on the article, for two reasons:

    • If it is really a tattoo, it's not body painting.
    • It's too simple an example, with only part of an arm having a design on it. The article is already full of pictures of people having designs painted on their whole torsos, some even with their whole bodies.

    However, I don't want to get involved in an edit war for removing this image. Is there any way I can pursue a discussion about whether this image should be kept or removed? JIP | Talk 20:08, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Is there any reason why you can't discuss it on the article's talk page? Dismas|(talk) 20:11, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Only one reason: I've twice tried to initiate a discussion on the article's talk page, about different topics. The first one was in 2008. The second one was almost a month ago. Neither has received any replies. JIP | Talk 20:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Assuming the page isn't under some type of restriction, if you feel it doesn't belong in the article, you can remove it, and add a note to the Talk page to explain why you removed it. Then the onus is on the person restoring it to explain why.--SPhilbrickT 21:28, 8 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    May 9

    2nd nomination of an article--what did I do wrong?

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     –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I just tried to create Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John McSweeney (martial artist) (2nd nomination) but it's still in red. I assume that means I messed up the links somehow. I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what I did wrong and how to fix it. Papaursa (talk) 03:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    When you created Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John McSweeney (martial artist) (2nd nomination), you put the title of the article as John McSweeney (martial artist) (2nd nomination) instead of John McSweeney (martial artist). You probably just got mixed up with the title of the article and the title of the afd page, which are different as it is the second nomination. I've fixed it for you here; my apologies if you wanted to. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 03:21, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for fixing it. I believe I see my mistake. Now if I can just remember not to repeat it next time. Papaursa (talk) 03:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    In case you need it, I'll try to clarify a bit further. I'm assuming that when you created Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John McSweeney (martial artist) (2nd nomination), you used the following template:
    {{subst:afd2 | pg=PageName | cat=Category | text=Why the page should be deleted}} ~~~~
    The title of the article that you want to place up for deletion goes in the spot labelled "PageName". In this case, that would be John McSweeney (martial artist). However, the title you put there had the "(2nd nomination)" following it, which is for the afd page, not the article itself. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 04:08, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    That's how I interpreted your original comment. However, shouldn't there be a link to the original discussion and shouldn't the title reflect the fact that it's a second nomination? When I look at the page (without trying to edit it), I don't see those things. Papaursa (talk) 05:48, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    You're correct about having a link to the old discussions. I looked around and found this template: Template:Oldafdlist. This template links to any previous discussions regarding the article. The title, however, remains as is. I've gone ahead and added it. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 17:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks again for your help. Papaursa (talk) 00:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Replace old material with new.

    When I go to edit a section in a Wikepedia paragraph, I cannot replace the old paragraph with my new paragreaph. It just adds my new paragraph but leaves the old paragraph in place. I want to get rid of the old paragraph & replace it with my new paragraph. How can I do that?

    Or suppose I want to just insert a few words or a sentence in the old paragraph. How can I do htat —Preceding unsigned comment added by BeverlyHillsMan (talkcontribs) 05:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Click on the edit link next to the section heading that is above the text you want to change, or if you are trying to edit the very beginning, click the "edit this page" tab at the top of the page. From there, find the paragraph and change it to how you want it (that could mean typing in the new paragraph and deleting the old). Fill in the edit summary and click Save page. PleaseStand (talk) 05:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It appears from your contributions that you may want to edit a reference that is not shown in the edit window for the references section. You have to edit where the reference is linked from. See Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and don't remove {{Reflist}}. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    login failure

    When I try to log in, in the strategic priorities discussion it says I don't have an account. When I go to my preferences page everything is normal. Psturm (talk) 06:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    That's because you have to create an account at wikimedia. White Trillium (talk) 07:41, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    If you have Single Unified Login set up, the account would be created automatically on Wikimedia when you first log on there -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:47, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I don't know where the strategic priorities discussion is but if it is at wikimedia: then unified login doesn't work there. It is the Wikimedia Foundation's own website which "happens" to run MediaWiki (who would have guessed they chose that!), but it is not one of the Wikimedia projects. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I found strategy:. A unified account does enable login there. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Requesting a tech fix

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    Why does this work, but not this?

    If this requires making changes to any of WP:Law templates, I think you can go ahead and make those changes, as long as you announce that you did so at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Law#Requesting_a_tech_fix.

    -AConcernedChicken (talk) 08:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    The feature is described at Help:Category#"Related Changes" with categories. Category:WikiProject Economics articles contains lots of pages and therefore has lots of related changes. Category:WikiProject Law articles contains no pages and therefore has no related changes. Do you want Category:WikiProject Law articles to contain articles, or do you want the Related changes feature to include changes to pages in subcategories? I don't think the latter is possible. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:10, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I was looking for changes to talk pages with the "wikiproject law" banner on them. If the set was really zero at the time, then ... I guess that explains it. But that just seems so improbable. AConcernedChicken (talk) 19:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    As I said, Category:WikiProject Law articles contains no pages currently. Pages in subcategories don't count. You didn't mention pages containing {{WikiProject Law}} in your first post so my reply was not about that. {{WikiProject Economics}} contains | MAIN_CAT = WikiProject Economics articles. The parameter is documented at {{WPBannerMeta}}. Do you want | MAIN_CAT = WikiProject Law articles added to {{WikiProject Law}}? Then all pages with {{WikiProject Law}} would be listed in Category:WikiProject Law articles, and Related changes for that category will show changes to the pages. I don't know a way to directly show changes to pages containing a template, but it can be done indirectly as described by letting the template add a category and then use related changes on the category (this shows changes to all pages in the category whether or not they were added by the template). PrimeHunter (talk) 21:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, that's exactly what I'd like: Please add the MAIN_CAT code to {{WikiProject Law}}. I would do it myself, but I'd screw it up. Thanks. Agradman (until the sky stops falling, A Concerned Chicken (talk)) 00:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I have done it.[1] The pages will be added gradually to the category as the job queue runs through the talk pages using the template. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! Agradman (while the sky falls, A Concerned Chicken (talk)) 04:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Copy right of our page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svpnpa

    Copy right of our page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svpnpa -this is our own Academy's page. we are happy to work on it to provide the best stuff about it. we are looking for non editable and copy right protected option over it. we are ready to provide any information we need to provide to prove our self for the same.

    we need clear information about the same.

    please discuss about the same on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svpnpa or mail me at: <email address removed> —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.125.104.225 (talk) 08:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    No one "owns" pages on Wikipedia, even if they are the subject of the article. The information on the page does not appear to have been copied from a website or other copyrighted publication (which I thought might be the case), and so it can be kept as it currently stands. However, unless there is persistent vandalism to the article, it will not be protected - and there is no copyright over the material there, as it is covered by the CC-BY-SA 3.0 and GFDL licenses.
    Anyone can edit any article - if you feel that the information is incorrect, there are two ways to correct it:
    1. discuss it on the article's talk page
    2. using reliable sources which are independent of the subject, the information can be corrected using citations.
    Finally, I am not sure if the article as it stands is anywhere near encyclopedic - it sounds more like a promotional brochure! I will look at it, and either improve the wording to make it more neutral and encyclopedic, or nominate it for deletion. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Please do not include contact details in your questions. We are unable to provide answers by any off-wiki medium and this page is highly visible across the internet. The details have been removed, but if you want them to be permanently removed from the page history, please email this address. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    When I am editing a page and I see informative placards above the edit field ... where do they come from?

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    Is there a way I can display some custom text when people go to edit my talk page? AConcernedChicken (talk) 08:34, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    The information for creating 'edit notices' (as they are properly called) can be found here -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 09:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    thanks! AConcernedChicken (talk) 19:05, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Non-notable content in a notable article

    I've searched the archives, and I see this question comes up every now and again, which is: How to deal with non-notable content in a notable article?
    Yesterday I removed the following sentence from an article about a living person: "His facebook page has over 100 views." Apart from my personal opinion that this is obviously non-notable, I would like to have some guidelines to fall back upon. In this case, the sentence was unreferenced, so I could have removed it because of lack of reference, but what if there would have been a proper reference? What would you fellow-editors have done in this hypothetical case (i.e., well referenced non-notable content)? Lova Falk (talk) 09:06, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    If there is a reliable, independent source for the information, it can be kept (whether you agree that it is notable or not is not strictly relevant - if it meets the criteria for inclusion, then it can be kept) - if there is no reliable, independent source of information, it can be removed. If "His facebook page has over 100 views per hour" had been mentioned in the New York Times, then it would be worthy of mention - if it was mentioned on his Twitter account, it would not. If there is no reference, it can be removed - although common sense is needed too! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Notability is specifically not applicable to content of articles (except stand-alone lists) but only to topics of articles—whether an article entire on the topic should exist. You would look here to other policies and guidelines and should probably not speak of notability at all as citing it introduces apples into an issue on oranges. Probably the most relevant policy affecting this material is neutral point of view, especially its subsection on undue weight. Look also to whether this fails some aspect of WP:NOT (e.g., Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information) and see also Wikipedia:Handling trivia#Connective trivia. We may have cause to mention Henry VIII in an article on Scooby Doo if his ghost haunted a castle in some episode, but we would never mention Scooby Doo in an article on Henry VIII. Indiscriminate, undue weight on a trivial connection.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 12:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    But Phantomsteve and Fuhghettaboutit, Phantomsteve says that this should be subject to common sense, and my common sense tells me that (for example) an article about some photographer of slebs does not benefit from a long list of slebs he's portrayed in a workmanlike but utterly uninteresting way -- or so it seems to me, and nobody has adduced any evidence of critical attention -- for gossipy magazines about slebs. Or again, articles about watch brands tend to blather on about which sleb has been spotted wearing (or hawking) which bauble. The "common sense" escape clause aside, you seem to be saying that if the sourcing is there, an article may acquire an unlimited mass of trivia. Is this right? -- Hoary (talk) 12:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I seem to be saying the opposite. Please read my post again. Verifiability is a threshold requirement, not a license to keep any trivial material, no matter how tangential to the focus of a topic.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 13:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I agree. To use another example, maybe the individual really likes egg sandwiches. This could be verified by reading his official website biography, or his autobiography. He could even have mentioned it in interviews with the most reliable of independent secondary sources, but it still shouldn't be included here. As far as the facebook thing goes, 100 views isn't exactly something to write home about. Maybe if the NYT had reported that the individual had had an exceptionally high number of page views, much higher than comparable individuals, then maybe that would be worth including (although not necessarily).--BelovedFreak 13:16, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    On the page Public debate there is one link that is hacked.

    'Debating': A free online 'how-to' guide (A free 200-page debating book written by a former winner of the World Schools Debating

    Regards A Garba —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.24.143.208 (talk) 11:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks. Now removed. The site itself appears to be hacked; I looked briefly to find the correct site but didn't find an alternative.--SPhilbrickT 11:24, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Nationality

    A person born in 1992 in Malaysia to Indian Father. He obtains Malaysian Passport. In 1993 comes to India and stays in India itself. Now what is his nationality

    Bvramana1968 (talk) 13:11, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    That's a question for the Reference desk. -- Hoary (talk) 13:13, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Actually a question for a lawyer, we do not give legal advice. – ukexpat (talk) 14:44, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Advanced Wikimarkup

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     –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Hello, I'm interested in learning intricate wikisyntax, beyond what is taught in Help:Wiki markup. I'm interested in creating a new citation template similar to {{cite visual}}. Where can I learn what I need to know? Thanks. ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 14:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    You can find some information at Wikipedia:Template namespace--SPhilbrickT 15:04, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks! That led me to what I was looking for, which was here: Parser Functions ɳorɑfʈ Talk! 19:13, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Truck?

    Sorry for this kind of question but I want to know the opinions of Wikipedians, not the overall population.

    Is the Nissan Pathfinder considered a truck, or at least more a truck than a car? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 15:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    You would be better off asking this question on the article's talk page Talk:Nissan Pathfinder -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:36, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Incidently, the article says that it's an SUV. Nissan officially call it an SUV on their website, not even a "crossover". There are no references in the article that I can see, so we can't even see what reliable sources say. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:37, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It's an SUV, so it's a car in my opinion. --Toontown59153 (talk) 19:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    A sport utility vehicle (SUV) is a generic marketing term for a vehicle similar to a station wagon, but built on a light-truck chassis.sport-utility vehicle. (2008). In Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary....Moxy (talk) 20:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Viewing a deleted article

    I made a documentary about a subject that which the Wikipedia article has recently been deleted due to vandalism (according to the subject). The portrayal of the subject on the internet has been a problematic topic since originally uploading the video to YouTube. To ensure that the vandalism is not related to my film, I was wondering if an admin could retrieve the article for "Luke Hayes-Alexander" from the deletehistory? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam-machiavelli (talkcontribs) 15:52, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Let me just look at that article and see why it was deleted -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    One thing that can be ruled out: articles are never deleted because of "vandalism". Every article on this site has been vandalized at least once. It is removed, and life goes on. Rather, most articles about people are deleted because the article does not prove that the topic is sufficiently notable by Wikipedia's definition -- but there are plenty of other reasons why pages are deleted, and non-notability may not be the case here. Xenon54 (talk) 15:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    The reason for deletion was nothing to do with vandalism, but the fact that the article did not indicate the importance or significance of the subject. There is no mention of internet portrayal, and no references indicating that he is notable 16:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
    Incidently, the article's title was Luke Hayes Alexander, not Luke Hayes-Alexander -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:05, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Luke Hayes Alexander was created by User:Inthewarehouse. After some vandalism in earlier months (not much by Wikipedia standards) Inthewarehouse filed a complaint today [2] against User:ThouShallBowToMe who was blocked indefinitely 8 minutes later. 3 minutes after the block, Inthewarehouse blanked the article (except for {{Orphan}}). I don't know why — maybe an accident or maybe annoyance over the vandalism? The deletion referred to Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#A7. I don't think A7 applies to the content before the blanking, but it could have been deleted per Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion#G7 when the creator blanked it. PrimeHunter (talk) 18:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Resolved
     –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    The list at MediaWiki:Cite references link many format backlink labels isn't long enough: on the page List of allied military operations of the Vietnam War, Footnote #1 goes through that entire list and brings up a bunch of errors. The list needs to be continued like this:
    aaa aab aac aad aae aaf aag aah aai aaj aak aal aam aan aao aap aaq aar aas aat aau aav aaw aax aay aaz aba abb abc abd abe abf abg abh abi abj abk abl abm abo abp abq abr abs abt abu abv abw abx aby abz aca acb acc acd ace acf acg ach aci acj ack acl acm acn aco acp acq acr acs act acu acv acw acx acy acz ada adb adc add ade adf adg adh adi adj adk adl adm adn ado adp adq adr ads adt adu adv adw adx ady adz aea aeb aec aed aee aef aeg aeh aei aej aek ael aem aen aeo aep aeq aer aes aet aeu aev aew aex aey aez
    I think that's probably far enough. Thanks! --Oxguy3[dubious user ] 16:40, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I have done it... I actually went up to anz (the article needed up to and - that's 1044 labels to the same reference - we now have the ability to have up to 1066 labels to the same reference!) - Incidently, I don't know if it's the computer I'm currently on, but it took ages to load that page - and when I purged it to get it to show the new labels, it timed out! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 17:22, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Awesome, thanks! That article actually happens to be the longest article on Wikipedia, so that's probably the farthest it'll ever have to be updated to.
    See Template:Bug. ---— Gadget850 (Ed) talk 00:59, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    User:TonyTheTiger/Table

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    Why isn't my table at User:TonyTheTiger/Table sorting in firefox or google chrome?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I am using Chrome and it sorts just fine for me. ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 18:56, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I tried it in firefox and it works there also, I guess I am not much help. ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 19:00, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Looks ok to me too on Firefox and Chrome!! Moxy (talk) 19:21, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    When I press the sort button on a column such as Jazz, it returns in the same order as before.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:51, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It doesn't sort correctly for me. It works when the empty cells get non-displayed content, for example <span style="display:none">N</span>. PrimeHunter (talk) 20:13, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Are you suggesting a fix?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 21:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Replace all instances of {{Y}} with {{sort|Y|{{Y}}}} and it will work. This adds a non-displayed sort key like what PrimeHunter mentioned. I think the reason it doesn't work without a sort key is because {{Y}} has only an un-linked image, so the sorting mechanism thinks all cells are empty. — jwillbur 21:59, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Yes, I was suggesting a fix: For every currently empty cell in the table: Add the code <span style="display:none">N</span> which renders as nothing: N. Many other codes in the empty or non-empty cells would also work. My inelegant suggestion sorts the checkmarks at top of the table the first time that column is clicked. jwillbur's suggestion sorts them at the bottom the first time and a second click will bring them to the top. I think it's best if they go to the top the first time but I don't know whether this is possible without putting something in all the empty cells. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:33, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I have a spreadsheet with {{Y}} in each cell that is appropriate. Then I use an excel to wiki converter. I don't think it is practical to fill in all the N cells. I will go with the Y solution above and let you know how it works.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It is working now.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 02:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    How do you make on of these?

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     –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I wanna know how you make on of these. I don't know what they are called but here is a picture example:

    Image —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toontown59153 (talkcontribs) 19:42, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    They are called infoboxes. They are Wikipedia templates to provide standard information about a certain kind of topic. What do you mean by "make one of those", use one on an article or actually create an all-new infobox? JIP | Talk 19:49, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    How do you put on on an article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Toontown59153 (talkcontribs) 19:52, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Please reply on my below post replier. --Toontown59153 (talk) 20:02, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Infoboxes?

    How do you put an infobox in an article? --Toontown59153 (talk) 20:01, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Is not hard at all see-->Help:Infobox then see -->Wikipedia:Manual of Style (infoboxes)..hope this helps !!Moxy (talk) 20:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    By editing the page and putting the specific template in. As an example, I will show you the source code of the infobox you showed in the picture above.
    {{Infobox VG
    |title=Super Mario Bros.
    |image=[[File:Super Mario Bros box.jpg|250px]]
    |caption=North American box art, NES version.
    |developer=[[Nintendo Entertainment Analysis and Development|Nintendo EAD]]
    |publisher=[[Nintendo]]
    |director=[[Shigeru Miyamoto]]<br>[[Takashi Tezuka]]
    |producer=[[Hiroshi Yamauchi]]
    |composer=[[Koji Kondo]]
    |series=''[[Mario (series)|Mario]]''
    |released={{Vgrelease|JP=September 13, 1985|NA=<!--Don't change without discussing first-->by March 1986|EU=May 15, 1987|AUS=1987}}
    |genre=[[Platform game]]
    |modes=[[Single-player video game|Single-player]], [[Multiplayer video game|multiplayer]]
    |ratings=[[Entertainment Software Rating Board|ESRB]]: E<br>[[Office of Film and Literature Classification (Australia)|OFLC]]: G
    |platforms=[[Family Computer Disk System]]<br>[[Nintendo Entertainment System]]<br>[[Game Boy Advance]]<br>[[Virtual Console]]<br>[[Game & Watch]]
    |media=320-[[kilobit]] [[ROM cartridge|cartridge]]
    }}
    

    I've used "pre" and "nowiki" tags to make this reply show the exact source code that is used to put an infobox in the article, not make it render it into an actual infobox, which would not help you to learn how to put an infobox into an article. First you need to know what sort of infobox you want. The above is "Infobox VG" and is used for video games. Then you basically copy the text, either from another article that already has the infobox, or from the infobox itself, and replace all the bits after the "=" signs with the values relevant to that particular article. If some aren't relevant, or you don't know them, just leave them out. JIP | Talk 20:12, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks so much! Can you tell me how to put a line across the box? I'm really confused by the Infobox guide. --Toontown59153 (talk) 20:16, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    What do you mean by "a line across the box"? A horizontal break line? I'm not sure if this is possible by editing the infobox parameters alone. You would probably have to edit the entire infobox, and that would require first getting consensus from other editors who have edited the same infobox. JIP | Talk 20:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    If you make an infobox for a video game article then you should use Template:Infobox video game (Template:Infobox VG redirects there). The documentation for the parameters is at Template:Infobox video game. The article Super Mario Bros. uses it. Click "edit this page" at Super Mario Bros. to see which parameter assignments that article uses to produce the infobox. Don't use Template:Infobox for a video game. Template:Infobox is a generic infobox which may be used if there isn't already a specialized infobox for a purpose. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:05, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Need help with "Shirley, Illinois"

    I have just posted a brief history section under "Shirley Illinois." However, the references, present on the edit, are not visible in the entry, and somehow my new entry has altered the order of the original entry so the map now appears before the original words. I would appreciate it if someone to take a look at this entry and help out. Elkmilok (talk) 21:27, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I have added the missing code that is ..
    ==Notes==
    <references />
    OR ==Notes==
    {{Reflist}}

    ..I have removed the coordinates as they were not working ..i will try to find the right coding...PS good job!!!Moxy (talk) 21:39, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    coordinates added --> {{coord|40|24|26|N|89|3|45|W|zoom:6_region:US-IL_type:adm1st|display=title}}..Moxy (talk) 21:53, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Geobox River

    Something just went wrong with the coord thing in the river geobox template, anyone have an idea how to fix it? Shannontalk contribs 21:55, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    There is no Template:Geobox River or Template:river geobox. Can you be more specific about the template name and what went wrong on which page? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:13, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I've been trying to fix this, but I haven't found any way. On Kootenay River, "Expression error: Unexpected numberExpression error: Unexpected number" is appended after each coordinate in the infobox. The documentation is at Template:Geobox/type/river. Perhaps you can look at that and see how to fix it. On a side note, Columbia River's infobox works, but when you go to the template that they created to preserve the ease of editing the article, the same errors show up. Goodvac (talk) 22:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    She means Kootenay River odd the same thing is happening to the page talkabout in the post before this one [3]...Moxy (talk) 22:20, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    It shows up fine in the current revision. Goodvac (talk) 22:31, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    The version of Shirley, Illinois only worked because the coord parameters in the Geobox were commented out. I have fixed the problem by reverting a recent edit to Template:Coord.[4] I guess you looked at Columbia River before it was automatically updated after the problematic template edit. Columbia River was wrong when I first looked at it but now it is right again. Affected articles may have to be purged to be fixed before the job queue automatically gets to them. PrimeHunter (talk) 23:19, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Yeah, I meant all river articles with geobox (and apparently, also Geobox Valley), because after seeing the odd stuff on Kootenay River I took a look randomly at the Mississippi River article where the same problems showed up, then at the article for Aliso Canyon where there was also red letters in the geobox. But apparently no one has edited the river geobox template since February (at least since I last checked) Shannontalk contribs 23:30, 9 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    May 10

    new entry

    how do i add a new entry/definition to wikipedia?Fertilityauthority (talk) 01:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Please see the Your first article. Wikipedia articles are about encyclopaedic topics that are considered to be notable, which is defined as being significantly covered by reliable sources that are then cited by the article, and under no circumstances is Wikipedia to be used to advertise (see also the Business FAQ). Your username also appears to be promotional, in direct violation of the username policy. Please consider getting it changed if you want to begin editing constructively. Xenon54 (talk) 01:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I have a cough that someone needs to check out

    No, I'm not asking for medical advice ;) In some of Wikipedia's media files, most recently I've noticed Tchaikovsky's 1812 (), at several spots (one is at 4:00, probably more) someone can clearly be heard coughing. Can this be taken care of? I would have no idea how to do it. THX 68.248.227.1 (talk) 03:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    That piece also randomly ends at 11:17,despite purportedly being "length 16m39s". Can that be sorted out too? 03:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.248.227.1 (talk)
    This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Kittybrewster 07:26, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It is not uncommon for coughing to be heard in live recordings of classical music. I suggest that it not be removed, as a live concert recording is supposed to be different than a highly polished and engineered studio recording, with its many retakes, dubbing, etc. Princess Caraboo (talk) 13:17, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    articles on TV episodes

    I noticed that some TV episodes have articles. These include routine episodes, not the final show or an unusual show. Is this permitted? Assorg (talk) 03:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes, but as per everything else the episode needs external coverage. So an episode that gets press coverage, or is discussed as a particularly good example of something, or similar. In other words, the individual episode needs to be notable. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 04:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Is this enough? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coming_of_Age_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cafe_(Seinfeld_episode)
    I don't want to make a fuss. I just want to know. I might make a new article if I know in advance what is ok. Assorg (talk) 04:15, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It may be OK if you can find reliable sources which are clearly independent of the subject, and which show a certain depth of coverage to allow the article to pass minimum notability standards. Additionally, Wikipedia articles need to focus primarily on covering topics from a perspective outside of the work of fiction itself. I'll say right now that Wikipedia's coverage of pop culture is woefully weak in this regard, standards of notability tend to be much more lax for topics around popular TV shows and the like, likely due to the sheer weight of fighting the problem. Most of these articles are basically entirely in-universe plot summaries with little else on the wider significance of the subject. The crux of the problem can be understood by reading the (now historical) essay Wikipedia:Pokémon test. I would personally recommend against adding to the problem, but you are free to make any additions you deem, in good faith, to be worthwhile. --Jayron32 04:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Why does my watchlist have entries like "(+377)" or "(-448)?"

    Resolved
     –  – ukexpat (talk) 15:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Why does my watchlist have entries like "(+377)" or "(-448)?" Is it some sort of scoring system, and if so what is being scored? The article, my edit, or something else? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guymacon (talkcontribs) 04:47, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    It is the difference in the number of characters between the current edit and the previous one. It's a helpful tool to quickly spot something like vandalism; an edit which has something like (-25,456) is likely not a helpful edit, and deserves further investigation. --Jayron32 04:49, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Thanks! Guy Macon 04:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I cannot download my created book

    I can creat a book but I cannot download it. When I download it, it displays an information of the reset linking. How can I download it in pdf format? Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Htzhang (talkcontribs) 06:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I had no problems creating and downloading a book. What happens if you try to "Save and Share your book" to your user space instead of downloading it? -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Troulbe opening programs

    everytime, I open a program , a little screen comes up telling me that IE isn't working. Then it stays there until I close it and whatever I wanted to open--is open. How do I get it to stop that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.8.173 (talk) 07:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    This page is for questions about using Wikipedia. Please consider asking this question at the Computing reference desk. They specialize in answering computer questions and will try to answer any question in the universe (except how to use Wikipedia, since that is what this Help Desk is for). Just follow the link and ask away. You could always try searching Wikipedia for an article related to the topic you want to know more about. I hope this helps. Someguy1221 (talk) 07:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Edit Date/Time

    On a recent article (Lena Horne), you reported "This page was last modified on 10 May 2010 at 07:47". My question is, why don't you indicate the Time Zone -- such as PDT, EDT, etc. Without that, the time info is rather meaningless. Don't you agree? Thank you. 216.103.80.241 (talk) 08:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Unless otherwise specified, all times on Wikipedia are UTC. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\
    Sorry, it defaults to UTC - but if you have set a time zone in your preferences, the time (although not labelled) will be that zone's time. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    For more information, see Coordinated Universal Time. Eastern Daylight is 4 hours behind UTC, and Pacific Daylight Time is 7 hours behind. Xenon54 (talk) 10:14, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I was trying to find the MediaWiki page for that, but I couldn't find it to start a discussion about this: would it be worth changing the relevant page to include "(UTC)" after the time? -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:25, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    See Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 45#at time zone to time stamp at bottom of articles "This page was last modified on .5Bdd month year, at xx:xx.5D". (UTC) has been added and removed in the past.[5] PrimeHunter (talk) 11:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It's a shame there's no TIMEZONE magic word! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Archive

    i had asked one question last week, now it is in archive section, can i bring it back to the concerned section for discussion again? 203.199.205.25 (talk) 09:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you referring to this question? That was asked at the Computing Reference desk, and several answers were given to your queries there. If you have follow-up questions to what you asked, you would probably be better off asking a new question at the Computing Reference Desk - here is a link to ask a new question there. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:23, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Log in

    Hi - I work for a law firm and we need to update our Wikipedia entry. I do not know who set up our page or what the log in details are. How can I update the entry? Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.233.131.153 (talk) 10:09, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    A couple of things to note:
    1. No one owns an article, even if they are the subject of that article
    2. If you want to update an article, then as long as you have reliable independent sources which verify the information, then you are welcome to do so - just bear in mind that Wikipedia is not an advertising venue, and all articles should be written from a neutral point of view
    3. Assuming that the page was created by a registered user (as you didn't say what page it was, we can't check this), then that individual has their own account - accounts are not for groups of people, or companies (see the User Name policy for more information on this). Should you wish to create your own account for editing, you are welcome to do so - but you need to remember that it will be an account for you only, and not for advertising in articles, as this may lead to the account being blocked.
    Regards, -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:18, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    It would also be a very good idea for you to read Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations. Gandalf61 (talk) 15:21, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    new section to an article

    I want to edit the article on "hygiene" by adding a new section on "home and everyday life hygiene". How do i add a new section - and make sure it is listed in the contents

    Florenceboot (talk) 11:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    If you read Help:Section, that explains how to go about doing that! I would, however, suggest discussing your proposed addition on the article's talk page (here) to get consensus about whether it is required and what should be included - it may be something that has been considered in the past, or the people who have edited the article previously may have suggestions on how best to add this section -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 11:04, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Regarding your question about the table of contents, a new section will automatically appear in the table of contents. You need do nothing other than create the section as described in the Help:Section link.--SPhilbrickT 12:51, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    adding a new section

    how do I find out who wrote the current article on hygiene? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Florenceboot (talkcontribs) 11:35, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    You can find who has contributed to any article by clicking the History link that is at the top of every page. here is a direct link to the hygiene article history for you, http://en.wikipedia.org/enwiki/w/index.php?title=Hygiene&action=history ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 11:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    (ec)Quite a number of editors have contributed in various ways. If you click on the "view history" tab at the top of the article, it will identify the contributors, starting with the 50 most recent. However, using that page is not the easiest at first, although this should help. Is there a specific question you have? For example, if you want to know who added a specific word or phrase, there are tools to do that.--SPhilbrickT 11:47, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    If this is connected to your query in the last section, you do not need to know who wrote the article! Just leave a message on the talk page explaining what you are thinking of adding - interested editors will respond! Alternatively, add a section (as explained at Help:Section) and if other editors disagree with it being there, they will remove/change it as necessary. Getting consensus on adding a section (via a discussion on the talk page) is the preferred method for a very established article (this article was created in November 2002, and has had over 500 editors involved!) -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 11:57, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Inaction on requested edit

    Last Wednesday, I made a request (using the "Request Edit" template) looking for another editor to review and (I hoped) implement a proposed researched + rewritten version of the Fred C. Koch article. However, five days have gone by now without any comment. My explanation of the proposed changes and potential COI issue is on the Talk page for that article; if someone here can take a look at it, I would appreciate that greatly. Cheers, NMS Bill (talk) 13:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Looks fine to me, thanks a lot for your work on the article. I've made a minor change to your work, which you can view here. If you disagree with this change you're welcome to revert it. Apart from that the article looks fine, and Shirik (talk · contribs) has kindly history merged your work to Fred C. Koch. Sorry for the unusual delay in getting a response to you. Kindest regards, SpitfireTally-ho! 16:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Thanks for the help! I'll leave a note on your Talk page about follow-up. NMS Bill (talk) 16:45, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Watchlist

    Is it possible to organize your watchlist so that it shows you the articles in the order you added them to your watchlist? --Drogonov 15:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Sorry, that's not possible, or at least not as far as I'm aware. The closest is the alphabetical layout here Special:Watchlist/edit. SpitfireTally-ho! 15:33, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I need to upload a new logo but the upload form says it is for confirmed users, yada. How do I get permission to edit everything? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjhallifax (talkcontribs) 15:56, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Before you can upload your account must be autoconfirmed - ie 10 edits and at least 4 days old. – ukexpat (talk) 16:01, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    You need one more edit as I type this! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    New mentor/adopter person

    Hi, I was wondering if it is possible to change my adopter/mentor. I am very active on Wiki and he is just absent too much to satisfy my questions. Homework2 pass a notesign! 16:02, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I would suggest that you firstly leave a message at his talk page - and then look for another mentor, and ask them. This isn't really the place to ask! If you are being mentored, go to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject User Rehab; if you are being adopted, go to Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adoptee's Area/Adopters -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 16:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Glucaid

    Glucaid is glucose drink for GTT patient. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.109.55.128 (talk) 16:39, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Cool. Also, if you have any questions about using Wikipedia, this is the place to ask. TNXMan 16:41, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    speedy deletion tag on a talk page

    I found a speedy deletion tag on a talk page Talk:Shri Saibaba Sansthan Trust, Shirdi. Now, the article Shri Saibaba Sansthan Trust, Shirdi is absolutely not "pure vandalism". Can talk pages really be deleted independently of the article?? And why not just delete the nonsense text on the talk page? Lova Falk (talk) 17:06, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

     Done - here. – ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you! Lova Falk (talk) 17:17, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    How does one permanently close a Wikipedia account?

    How does one permanently close a Wikipedia account? I searched the FAQ but, surprisingly found nothing.

    Thanks in advance.

    Precisionfiltration (talk) 18:11, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    It isn't possible - you should just stop using it. Prodego talk 18:13, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    See also Wikipedia:Right to vanish if you want the username to be hidden, but it's easier for us if you just stop using the account. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:15, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Copying within Wikipedia with citations

    I looking at material on copying within Wikipedia, but could only find information about copyrights.

    My question is, can I copy cited material within Wikipedia without looking up the citations, relying on the original editor? (I will note that I am generally reluctant to do this, having corrected several mis-cites. However, sometimes it appears to be the lesser of two evils.) May this be done?

    On the side, because the article is so complex, I will just ask: For copyright purposes, is it enough to put a reference to the original page in the comment on the edit?

    Thank you.Mzk1 (talk) 18:17, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    It's generally a bad idea to cite material found in Wikipedia. While editors are striving to make it as good as possible, it is a tertiary source, which is general not a good cite in any event, and the material can change. (If you want to cite, it is better to go to the references included, but you've said you don't want to do that.)
    If you are writing something about Wikipedia, then it would make sense to cite Wikipedia, and there are ways to do that to ensure that you cite a stable version. Can you explain how you intend to use it, and perhaps we can give a more specific answer?--SPhilbrickT 18:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Did you see this page: Citing Wikipedia?--SPhilbrickT 18:43, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Maybe I am not being clear.
    What I mean is, that a particular page has some information that I use on another page. What I wanted to do was to copy the information, together with its citations, which in this case I am not able to look up. As I said, I do not like doing this; I already have problems with citations copied from the Jewish Encyclopedia, that I found did not support (or even refer to) the material that the editor copied. But in some rare cases, this appears to be my best option. But I am not citing Wikipedia, I am citing the original sources, but I am relying on the other editor's having seen them.Mzk1 (talk) 18:48, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Ah, thanks, I did misunderstand. I have seen a discussion of that issue - I'll see if I can find it.--SPhilbrickT 18:52, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Please check to see if Wikipedia:Summary style will accomplish your goal. I believe it is the preferred way to do what you want to do. However, that is not the discussion I was looking for and will keep looking.--SPhilbrickT 18:55, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    This is what I was looking for : Copying within Wikipedia--SPhilbrickT 19:07, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Thank you for all of your efforts; I did see that article before. But I do not see where it addresses the issue of citation copying.Mzk1 (talk) 19:58, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    request to move draft to main space

    I made a request back in March to move a draft to main space (I have not made 10 edits with my account) and I have not heard anything back yet. Does this mean my article was not approved? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Les Lent (talkcontribs) 19:05, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    You learn something new every day. I've never seen that template before. It add your request to a category, one I've not seen before. I'm not sure who monitors it. More comments shortly.--SPhilbrickT 19:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I glanced at the category, and see 243 entries in it. The one I looked at was created in January, so separately I'll look into why it isn't getting much attention. Regarding your article:
    • Fairly well-written, so that's a good start.
    • Almost devoid of references, and the one that is there, isn't in the proper format. References can be tricky, but they are very important. Please check out WP:CITE and footnotes.
    • One of the reasons you need references is to support Notability, which is critical. I suspect this subject is notable, but you need to reference reliable sources.
    • It is best is notability is asserted in the lede paragraph.
    • If you can add a few references supporting notability, I'll be happy to move it for you, but when you have edited twice more, you can move it yourself. Make sure you have some references supporting notability before moving, ot is may be in danger of deletion.--SPhilbrickT 19:24, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    editing an erroneous image caption

    I cannot figure out how to edit the text in the caption of a photo. I (Raymond Duncan page: caption reads that he is pictured with his daughter - in fact it is his son -- the Library of Congress text describing the image should be used instead - it is accurate.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doreeds (talkcontribs) 20:36, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Done with this edit. The file information was at the top of the page and I edited the caption there. If you still have questions, just let me know. TNXMan 20:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    The caption was in the lead section which can be edited by clicking the "edit this page" tab at top. See more at Wikipedia:Lead section#Editing the lead section. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:08, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    How Do I Update a Logo on a Wiki Page

    Hi Wikipedia - There is a logo on our Wiki page that someone else created that is not a current logo. Our Company would like to change that logo to a current logo. After spending 2 or 3 hours on your page, I cannot figure out how to do it. Please help.

    Sandra Fullsailbrewing (talk) 23:53, 10 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Logos at Wikipedia are uploaded as images. If you click on the image, you should be taken to a documentation page. From that page, you can upload a new logo, once you become autoconfirmed (after 4 days and 10 edits). Upload a new version following the instructions at WP:UPLOAD. Please try not to make any major edits to your company's page, though, as working for the subject of an article constitutes a conflict of interest, and you may find it difficult to maintain a neutral point of view writing about something with which you are affiliated. Intelligentsium 00:00, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    We can do it if you give the page name and a link to an image file with the logo at the company website. PrimeHunter (talk) 00:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    That would be most excellent if you could update it for us. Here is the page and here is the link to the logo. Thank you. Sandra

    http://www.fullsailbrewing.com/client/Full-Sail-Brewing-Company-Logo.png

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_Sail_Brewing_Company —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fullsailbrewing (talkcontribs) 01:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I have uploaded File:Full-Sail-Brewing-Company-Logo.png at a reduced resolution to comply with our fair use policy. It is now displayed at Full Sail Brewing Company. PrimeHunter (talk) 02:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    THANK YOU and CHEERS! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fullsailbrewing (talkcontribs) 02:39, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    If you don' mind another question. I noticed on some of the other Brewery pages they mention their brewery tours and Tasting Rooms. How do you add a section like that to a page? Here is an example... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heineken_Experience#Current_Brewery_Tour —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fullsailbrewing (talkcontribs) 02:48, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I don't think any of that tour stuff is encyclopedic, it reads more like a travel guide and should be heavily reduced if not excised completely. – ukexpat (talk) 15:39, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    May 11

    Pictures of dead people

    If there's an article on a band in which the lead singer died, and you need a picture featuring all the original members of the band including the dead lead singer, but no suitable one happens to be in the public domain, and obviously there will never be a new picture taken with the dead lead singer, can you use a copyrighted picture instead? 24.189.90.68 (talk) 00:06, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Yes; this falls under Fair use, specifically under WP:NFCI, number 8. You will need to include an appropriate fair use rationale detailing why it qualifies for fair use. This, of course, assumes the band is notable, which is a different question entirely. Intelligentsium 01:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Oh, they're notable, alright... anyway, thanks for the links to the guidelines regarding the issue. 24.189.90.68 (talk) 02:13, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Unknown license for images

    This file says the license is unknown. Is it allowed to be used on an article or my userspace or will it be removed by FairuseBot or DASHBot? Also, how do you add a copyrighted image to an article without having it removed by FairuseBot? --The High Fin Sperm Whale 00:40, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I'm not an expert, but I would guess that it could be used in an article but not in userspace. Obviously, if the status becomes known (once the legalities of the law is ascertained), that may or may not be the case. You might want to ask this at Wikipedia:Media copyright questions, where there are folks who absolutely love these kinds of questions! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:36, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Regarding your second question: To prevent FairuseBot from removing a non-free image that has been added to an article, the file page will need to link to the article. In fair-use, all the articles that the non-free image is being used on need to be linked to on the file page, along with giving rationale. For example, see how File:Mario64 - Dire Dire Docks.png has links to and gives rationale for two articles. If no such link exists on the file page, FairuseBot will automatically remove the image. ~SuperHamster Talk Contribs 10:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    The image is (for the moment) on Commons so in theory it can be used on any Wikipedia page, including articles and user pages. Questions about copyright, licensing etc of images hosted on Commons should be directed to the Commons Help Desk. – ukexpat (talk) 15:37, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Can't find existing article - R&D orgs by country & focus

    Hi,

    I found a great article on here just over a week ago that listed R&D organisations by country and research focus, however now i'm trying to refer back to it, and I can't find it anywhere!

    I would really appreciate if you could either let me know where this article is, or confirm if it's no longer available?

    Any assistance is hugely appreciated as I need this article for a project i'm currently doing.


    Thanks, D

    04:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)04:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)04:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)04:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)04:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)04:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)~ —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daviclarke (talkcontribs)

    Try Category:Research and development organizations. caknuck ° needs to be running more often 04:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    If that doesn't work, and you are on the computer which you used back then, it might be worth looking at your browser's history -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    can't create user page

    I've successfully created an account, edited articles, created an article... but I can't seem to create a user page. My user name appears in red at the top of the screen. Instructions say to click on it. When I do, it takes me, for a brief second, to a page that tells me there is no such page, and I think offers the opportunity to create it. Unfortunately, that page immediately redirects to a 404 error, page can't be found. I've tried this both in Firefox and IE, and get the same result both times. Is there any other way to create my user page, or some way to stop the page from going to the 404 error? BroWCarey (talk) 04:25, 11 May 2010 (U

    Hmm..your userpage is blue in the signature? --Extra 999 (Contact me + contribs) 04:29, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    (ec)Try clearing your browser cache. Just in case that fails, I have created a placeholder page for you. (That's why the link went blue, Extra). caknuck ° needs to be running more often 04:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Oh, that explains why it's blue. thanks, Caknuck. I appreciate the help. —Preceding unsigned comment added by BroWCarey (talkcontribs) 04:32, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    That's what the Help Desk is for. Cheers, caknuck ° needs to be running more often 04:34, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Greetings! My name is Sarabjit Pandher and I am a journalist by profession. This refers to the origin of my clan "PANDHER". Your site at "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandher#References" has mentioned that "Pandher is a royal Jat surname traditionally found in Northern India particularly in Punjab (India). Pandhers are from the royal family of Uzbekistan."

    I am quite keen to follow this Uzbekistan link. Please guide me to the authorities that established this lineage. Can you help me with relevant reference materials or links that I can follow to trace out the roots of my people. I shall be extremely grateful.

    Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.94.250.116 (talk) 05:04, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I am afraid the article is entirely unreferenced. That particular statement was added on August 6, 2009 by an anonymous editor. If you feel that the statement has no basis in fact, you would be fully justified in removing it (see WP:BURDEN). If you have any reliable, published sources which discuss the Pandher clan in detail, they would be most helpful in providing verification for what is in the article right now. Simply put, that article is in sad shape, and given its utter lack of reliable references, I wouldn't trust anything in it. --Jayron32 06:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Why am I not autoconfirmed?

    My username is Antoniogameirolopes. I am writing an article but cannot move it from the userpage to the mainspace, so I guess I am still not a autoconfirmed user. Nevertheless, I registered more than 4 four days ago and made more than 10 edits. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antoniogameirolopes (talkcontribs) 07:07, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Although your account was registered more than 96 hours ago, you have only made 7 edits including this one. Remember that preview does not count as an edit, only save -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Fearful

    I'm fearful of editing Wikipedia. Will someone help alleviate my fear? Volalo (talk) 07:57, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Well I hope to have begun to alleviate your fear by placing a helpful welcome message onto your talkpage. :) Orphan Wiki 08:01, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Further to the above message, the best thing to remember is that you can't break Wikipedia. If you make a mistake in an edit, it can be reverted. You can't accidently delete articles or other pages (only an admin can delete pages, and even that can be undone). Find a subject which you are knowledgeable about, find reliable and independent sources that back up any information which you add (or remove), and edit away. Seriously, you can't do anything to a page which cannot be very quickly undone! Read Wikipedia:How to edit a page, which explains how to go about editing pages; read "Your first article" (if you want to create an article)... and if you have any questions, then either ask here or at the New contributors' help page (but please note that you only need to ask in one place - asking in many places is not needed - if you have put your question in the wrong place, another editor will move it to the correct location!) By the way, just in case I didn't mention it before (and this is very important to remember): You can't do permanent damage to Wikipedia! -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 08:48, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Start small. Start in a Wikipedia:Sandbox, specifically designed for you to test.--SPhilbrickT 09:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Find a subject that interests you and pile in. New editors are expected to make mistakes along the way. That's fine as long as you learn from the mistakes. Good faith editing is to be encouraged. Why not start at Wikipedia:Introduction, where you will learn a bit about what Wikipedia is, and how it works. Mjroots (talk) 10:09, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Account Merge Failure

    When I tried to create a universal account following the instructions, everything went fine until after I created the account went into the home account preferences, picked "Manage your global account", and then at the "Login unification status" page in the box titled "Begin login unification" when I enter the same password I have used throughout the entire process, it tells me a different password has been entered. Now I'm not sure if there is a technical error or if I somehow entered the password badly the same way twice. Psturm (talk) 10:16, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Are you the owner of the account Psturm at the German Wikipedia and at MetaWiki, as well as here? If one of these other accounts is not yours, that would explain the problem! If both of those accounts are yours, try logging into them seperately - perhaps one has an old password? For SUL to take place, all three of the accounts need to have the same password. Let us know how you get on, and if you have any further problems. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 10:28, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Staniforth Surname

    How do I refer you to further information ie. I note when I put in the name Staniforth the info page told me correctly that it was of Yorkshire Origin butsaid it was a derrivation of another name Standford. DSheffield University have done research on the name as it was one of the 7 original Sheffileld families and they beleive it comes from stoney ford (dweller by a stoney ford) being a ford in the River Don in the Attercliff Area of Sheffield. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.33.6 (talk) 13:25, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    If that information is available in a reliable source, it can be added to the article (and cited). If, however, it is unpublished research (and/or not peer reviewed) then it may not be suitable for inclusion. If you told us the source of the information (e.g. a weblink if possible, or a publication) then we could give more specific advice. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:44, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Withdrawing a deletion proposal

    How do I go about withdrawing my nomination for deletion at AfdD? Astronaut (talk) 15:19, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    I believe (having done it myself before, albeit some time ago) that simply indicating that you no longer wish to proceed with the AfD is sufficient. Regardless, this would be a useful step as it would notify other participants of your new position. TFOWRThis flag once was red 15:20, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    As a rule, stating on the AfD that you are withdrawing the nomination (along with the reason) is sufficient, and someone will normally close the AfD as Nomination withdrawn. However, if there are delete !votes, it would normally be kept open. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:27, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    If you mean Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Anya Verkhovskaya, although you can withdraw your nomination, there is a delete opinion, and so the AfD should remain open. You might want to contact the editor who left the delete opinion, letting him/her know that you have withdrawn. -- PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 15:30, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    Nevertheless, a "withdraw" can help to influence the outcome of the AFD toward "keep": the closing administrator is likely to attach a bit of significance to the fact that the nominator has changed his/her mind. Nyttend (talk) 16:47, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Continous numbering

    How to change the number format in this article so the numbering does not start all over after the cross-headings? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.41.34.154 (talk) 17:21, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    You can specify a starting value like this:
    #<li value="9">Amsterdam
    #Rotterdam
    #The Hague
    
    which produces:
    1. Amsterdam
    2. Rotterdam
    3. The Hague
    For more help with lists, please see Help:List. --Mysdaao talk 20:04, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    Level of warning after a block

    If a user vandalizes again when a block has expired, I usually give the user a level-2 warning. However, I have seen other users giving a level-4 warning in such cases. Is there a policiy on this? Lova Falk 18:26, 11 May 2010 (UTC)

    I'd say level 2 would be the way to go for anons, and is what I usually do. For registered accounts, if for some reason they weren't indeffed as a vandalism-only account, and haven't been doing anything constructive, and came back with more vandalism after their block, I could see bumping it up to a 3 or 4. I don't think there is really any heavy-duty policy on what the warning must be, just use common sense. AlexiusHoratius 18:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    I normally give a 2 for anons if the block is recent. I start over at 1 if it isn't a recent block. But for registered users, I would probably go with 4im of a block. If they aren't doing anything constructive right after a recent block, then it's unlikely they intend on doing anything constructive at all.--Unionhawk Talk E-mail 18:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    edit conflictFrom what Im familliar with, returning vandals can be blocked more quickly (per Wikipedia:VANDALSIM#Warnings). I think thats about all the guidance there is on what level of warning to give. So yes common sense would be the order of the day. I would think that if it is a registered account and you know that they have been warned before than a level 3 or 4 warning is fine to give (as mentioned above). If its an IP however there is no garantee it is the same person and could be a new user. As such i would treat the IP as if they were a new person entirely and run through the normal warning scale from level 1-4 and then report. Ottawa4ever (talk) 18:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    If they're registered and resume doing the same thing that got them blocked before, just report them to WP:AIV. The block was the 4th (or 5th) warning, no need for another. --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:41, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    (edit conflict)Warnings are designed to inform users who may not be aware of policy, or who may not be aware that their edits are in violation of policy. For registerred accounts, especially those that have been repeatedly warned and blocked for similar violations, there is no mandatory warning for repeated violations. If a user should know better, and still don't, there's no reason to warn before blocking. For IP editors, it is trickier. Old warnings may have been directed at a person who is not using that IP address anymore, so one should consider whether the current user of that IP is likely the same person, or not. The most important thing about warning people is there is no formula which must be followed beyond using common sense. Furthermore, the warning templates are a convenience and not a requirement, any user can be warned merely by directing them to the policy they are violating; you can just type a personalized warning message yourself. The point of warnings is to give a user the chance to correct their behavior themselves before resorting to a block, any method which is likely to accomplish this is fine, but one must thoughtfully consider the likely outcome of any warning, and apply warnings and/or blocks in order to achieve the desired outcome in the most effective and least disruptive manner possible. Personally, I rarely use the warning templates anymore, instead I actually type out a message which is highly specific to the situation. --Jayron32 18:50, 11 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

    To whom it may concern,


      Hello my name is Angela.. I have been catching up on some history of KingHenry VIII. I was just reading some footnotes from your on-line wikimedia. I don't study this, but what I have found on the site for King Henry VIII,, and theactual death of Catherine Of Aragon to the election of Pope Paul III has got meconfused. I'm sure I may be able to go to the nearest library to find out more,but thought you would like to know.. As follows
    


    Catherine of Aragon was Queen of England from: 11 June 1509 – 23 May 1533  
    It also says she died 7 January 1536 
    Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catherine_of_Aragon
    


    Next to be known as Queen after Catherine of Aragons' anullment to King HenryVIII, Is Anne Boleyn.
    
    From 28 May 1533 – 17 May 1536 (Beheaded 19 May 1536)
    
    Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Boleyn
    
    Now what I am confused about are: Of the actual year of Catherine of Aragonsdeath and Pope Paul III election to time. 
    

    Paul III (*)13 October 1534 10 November 1549 Henry VIII between ages of 42 and death. Final break from pope


    It is said on the Bio of King Henry VIII, that Catherine of Aragon died 15 months after Pope Paul III was elected.  But according to the bio of King Henry VIII (at bottom of page) This is what it says: Catherine of Aragon died 15 months after his election. On (*)17-Dec-1538, four years into his pontificate, Paul III excommunicated Henry VIII
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_VIII_of_England 
    
    Too, I am confused about the actual time of the Popes election and excommunication to Henry VIII 
    


    I am sorry if I have it wrong. I have never looked any of these history facts up in my time of school, only now.. Cause I am more aware about the importance of history. Also that it is, in those times, I have always had a very deep inner-connection too. Maybe it's just facination or mere intuition. Either way, please, If I am wrong, fill me in if you'd like. Otherwise I hope I may havehelped the next reader.



    Sincere thanks,
    
      Angela Gabriel