Talk:Joe Frazier

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Dont ADD Rubish

minor fix

partially blind in one eye doesnt = he fought with partial sight

Acutally that's exactly what it means, partial = part of the whole = incomplete. Although partial sight might suggest he is more sight impaired than he was.

No style?

theres nothing here talking about Joes style of boxing, he fought low with his head down much like the boxers did back in the 30's and 20's and before that. It was very different style and technique than what people were doing at the time.

picture?

This article could use an image of Frazier. Neilc 21:55, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

this article is shit. no structure, no talk of anything worthwhile, no boxing discussion. This man is one of boxings greatest ever, the only man to every legitamately beat Ali. Surely he deserves a decent article.

Edited discussion of boxing match with mayor - this is an encyclopedia, not a gossip rag.

two edits

Ali was not knocked down in the 11th round of the first fight, it was a slip and was ruled a slip by the referee. Frazier spent considerably more time in the hospital than Ali did after this fight; the article made it sound like it was the other way around. In both the first and third fights the winner spent more time in the hospital than the loser.

Yeah, right. As Ali eventually admitted, "I slipped over that left hook." Ali was in shape, he had several easy bouts prior to this to get in shape, and he was in his prime. Frazier beat him fair and square. Ali's constant cheap insults and teasing of Frazier will follow him to his grave.

Your response has nothing to do with the edits, and is a POV statement regardless. But, for the record, Ali was rarely fatigued after only 6 rounds of fighting... he was in Ali-Frazier I, and it wasn't because of anything Frazier did.-2/7/06

Editing References?

I just wanted to change Fraizer to Frazier in a couple references, but when I try to edit that section, I see a virtually blank edit page. I guess it's "outsourced" to some other file, like CSS or something? tharsaile 17:42, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

First paragraph

I'm considering to edit the following:

• Frazier was known for a driving, relentless pursuit of opponents from all angles across the ring, using a chugging locomotion reminiscent of a train's advance up a hill. The contrast with Ali's dancing, non-linear style could not have been greater.

What does it mean? Is it referring to Fraziers forward bobbing and weaving fighting style compared to Ali's backward reflex-oriented style? Or his it referring to Fraziers relentless attack compared to Ali's pop and jab style? And I'm surprised there is no mention of his vicious left hook, which is considered one of the best in boxing history. Maya Levy 04:48, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Uncle Tom

Ali called Frazier an "Uncle Tom" in the buildup to the first fight, not the third fight.-2/17/07

Why is this not mentioned in the article? Ali's racist taunting of Frazier during the build-up to all three fights has cast a shadow over Frazier's entire boxing career. This article also fails to mention how Frazier helped Ali get his boxing licence back and gave him money before the fights. This is important (and undisputed) information which changes the whole tone of the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.142.138 (talk) 12:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

First American Heavyweight to win an Olympic Gold Medal?

That must be news to Sam Berger, Ed Sanders and Pete Rademacher —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.7.223.111 (talk) 05:46, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

Ok, I fixed it. I rewrote the sentence to reflect that Joe Frazier was the first American boxer to win the Olympic gold medal in the heavyweight division and the world title in the heavyweight division. I believe that was the intent of the original author. --DreamsAreMadeOf 17:56, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

That's correct. Many fans forget that Ali won his gold medal in 1960 as a light-heavyweight. --NameThatWorks 17:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Box Like the Pros

Joe Frazier wrote a book called "Box Like the Pros" where should we mention this. The K.O. King (talk) 17:56, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

In my opinion in de section "1990s to present." -- Iterator12n ^Talk 20:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Too much about Ali in the introduction

The introduction makes it seem like Ali's taunts was Frazier's claim to fame--like half of the intro is on that! This article is about Joe Frazier and Ali's taunts doesn't show much about him. I am moving them to their own section for now just to get them out of the intro, but they should be interspersed throughout the article. Madridrealy (talk) 05:03, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Frazier's losses

Must mention Frazier's 2 losses to Ali and 2 losses to George —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.199.102.218 (talk) 01:21, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Check this fact

Frazier never spoke with Futch again.[3] Frazier was just on Stern, and when stern asked about the guy, Frazier didn't seem mad at him at all, and talked in a manner about him that really makes me question this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.198.57.217 (talk) 03:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)

WTH??????????

Didn't Ali win the 14-round match, not Frazier????????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Minimal man (talk • contribs) 01:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)