Talk:Slouch hat

Military history: South Pacific Start‑class

This article is within the scope of the Military history WikiProject. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the project and see a list of open tasks. To use this banner, please see the full instructions.Military historyWikipedia:WikiProject Military historyTemplate:WikiProject Military historymilitary history

Start

This article has been rated as Start-class on the project's quality scale.

This article has been checked against the following criteria for B-class status:
Referencing and citation: criterion not met Coverage and accuracy: criterion not met Structure: criterion met Grammar and style: criterion met Supporting materials: criterion met

Associated task forces:
/
	Australia, New Zealand and South Pacific military history task force

This is my first page, so advice as to how to format a title, or break the links at the end into new lines will be appreciated. (I'm fully planning on coming back and cleaning this up and adding to it, just don't quite know what I am doing yet) Thanks -Skylark 19:20, 20 Feb 2004 (UTC)

This article is inaccurate and needs a bit of revising

The slouch hat wasn't invented in the 1800's, it's considerably older. The name "slouch" refers to the fact that one side droops, as opposed to the other that is pinned up. Examples of this style of hat can be seen on English Cavaliers in paintings from the 1600's as well as court dress of various people from all over Europe at that time. This site has some more information about the evolution of the Australian Slouch Hat and some indications of where it came from: http://www.diggerhistory.info/pages-uniforms/slouch_hat.htm OzoneO (talk) 16:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

NZ slouch hat

I've added some very basic info on the NZ slouch hat. It is still worn on occasion. Ozdaren 08:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The image that was used by this article to illustrate the NZ slouch hat was deleted because it was a non-free content image that was deemed replaceable. As such, is there anyone that is able to upload a free content photo as a replacement? The suggestion is that in order not to have the photo deleted like last time, that someone - probably a Kiwi soldier who actually owns a NZ slouch hat - takes a photo and uploads it similar to the example that a user uploaded for the Australian version. Can anyone help with this? AustralianRupert (talk) 03:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reverence

I noticed that the following statement was made:

Australian Defence Force (ADF) personnel regard the slouch hat as a parade item of dress, and although army standing orders for dress allow it to be worn in the field, most soldiers do not, as it is almost a disgrace to allow it to get unnecessarily dirty.

I disagree with this as a grade 2 slouch hat is often worn in the field by diggers. The idea of it being almost a disgrace implies a whole degree of reverence that does not exist. Ozdaren 02:35, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I do not think that this comment is exactly right anymore. Certainly, Australian soldiers used to wear the slouch hat out field, but I don't think this has been done for a while. I have been in the Army for five years and certainly I have not seen anyone wear the slouch hat out field in that time. We are now issued with proper "bush hats" (or "hat, ridiculous" in Q speak) which are essentially just hats made out of similar material to camouflage jackets and trousers. Having said this, in some units the slouch hat is required to be worn whilst working in a barracks situation - other than headquarters. For example, at a particular a engineer unit whilst not out field or doing field training, the sappers are required to wear their slouch hats instead of bush hats even whilst working on equipment etc in the compound. Certainly the slouch hat is held in high regard, though, and in some units it is only ever worn whilst on parade, e.g. units where berets are worn. AustralianRupert (talk) 02:57, 23 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]

nothing about the French slouch hat?

wore during the indochina war and known as "chapeau de brousse" (translation of slouch hat). don't know its origins. there were two models this one, (French Foreign Legion 1st BEP airborne w/US vest/UK trousers/FR MAS-36 rifle) it remembers the imperial australian model this one/two (WWII US type?). Paris By Night 19:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Indian police

A lot of police here in Bangalore wear these too. Not sure if it's just a Bangalore/Karnataka thing or if it occurs elsewhere.—Wasabe3543 09:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Association with American hillbillies?

I think this should be addressed. A floppy, tattered slouch hat (often adorned with safety pins, feathers, etc.) is a classic piece of the archetypal Southern "mountain man"/"hillbilly" persona - Jed Clampett (of the Beverly Hillbillies) is just one example... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Seethaki (talk • contribs) 04:07, 18 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tripod link

The link to a Tripod contributor has some neat pictures, but the text does not rise to WP reliability standards (presumably the intent of attaching it as a ref to first mention of "Kossuth hat". I focus on text, but perhaps others with an image interest can figure out whether we can display the relevant pics.
--Jerzy•t 23:43, 4 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]