Talk:List of Futurama episodes

Into the Wild Green Yonder description

Plot still says "N/A". Although the film has not been aired as separate episodes, we know the plot and where it will be split (i.e. every 22 minutes or thereabouts - the 'cliffhangers' should be obvious). Anybody want to fill in the plot?

Finished

i finally finished it! Raemie 19:45, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Hehe, good job, it's looking great! :-) Maybe there should be some mention about how the episodes relate to the TV airings. I prefer the actual production order, but it could maybe be useful to cross-reference things for some. -- Jugalator 10:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

We need to update the Episode pages a bit. Mainly the Season 1 episodes have the same Writer and Director for each episode. Please, if you have the time and know the person that wrote or directed the episode, update the page accordingly. -Icweiner

Episode Infobox

I created a template for the infoboxes on the episode pages. I used it for the Space Pilot 3000 page. The "Opening Subtitle" and "Opening Cartoon" parts of the infobox don't show on the infobox on the Space Pilot page. Could somebody try to work out the kinks in it and respond here? Also, on the subject of infoboxes, I also made a season one infobox, like the ones seen with The Simpsons. I'll make the Season 2, 3, and 4 versions of that infobox later. -Icweiner

I just fixed it up a bit to now show the "opening" parts, and also to attach the season box properly. -- Jugalator 11:00, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Series versus Season

Should we use "Series" or "Season", as in "Series 3" or "Season 3"? Personally, I say we should use Season as it is an American show. Also, we say "Season" on this page. -Icweiner

Yeah season is to be used as this is an american show series is used for english shows as those are the appropiate regional terms. Discordance 14:13, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Depth of Details and order

Just read Icweiners comment. I'd not say that more depth is necessary. For a quick overview this list is just perfect. If you want more information, I would suggest putting a link to Futurama_(TV_series_-_season_3) or the other seasons respectively. Also, concerning the seperation, I would suggest to arrange it according to the real air dates. IMHO, the production codes are not the measure. Wouldn't the air dates determine the order on the DVDs as well? Just some thoughts.--perelly 00:13, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

The DVDs are by production code, which is the reason there are 4 volumes to the DVD releases (corresponding to the 4 production seasons) and not 5 (corresponding to the airdate seasons). In addition Fox aired an episode with Cubert in it before the episode in which Cubert is introduced, so viewers would have no idea why a new character just shows up for no reason if they watched the series in air date order. Qutezuce 00:21, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Episode List Out Of Order

Could Anyone Resort All Of The Futurama Episodes by date beacause it is out of order. --67.34.214.196 16:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

The episodes in the list are sorted by production order, not date. This paragraph from the article explains more: "This list is in production order, primarily because this is the order used on the DVDs and it avoids a plot inconsistency of the broadcast order in which Cubert appears before he has been released from his cloning tank." --FlyingPenguins 04:26, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

This only aims to confuse people, why even have the season episode #'s "as seen on (FOX) TV". FOX diced up the show, and I don't see where their numbering system would be beneficial in an encyclopedic manner. Especially if the archive (DVD) numbers them as the creators intended. I think the original order Futurama was aired is historically irrellevent, would anyone object to removing that column?

Thinking on it some more, if it's become a means to reference the episodes theres good reason to keep it. It adds a sufficient amount of confusion though and should be changed to be more clear. Maybe put it in parenthesis underneath the production #? 75.68.117.79 21:47, 8 April 2007 (UTC)Mr. K

Episode "The Deep South" linked incorrectly.

When you click on the link to the Deep South it links to a different article about the "South" as opposed to the actual episode synopsis. I tried to change it but alas i do not know how.

Just noting that someone else did fix this at some point. Cburnett 03:16, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, yeah, I fixed it. I pretty much hardwired everything that linked to The Deep South to point to the episode instead. I probably could have just changed the redirect but I wasn't sure that was appropriate. If anyone wants to link to that episode in the future they'll need to do the same. Stardust8212 03:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Screenshots as fair use

In order to resolve the long standing debate over fair use of screenshots on List of Lost episodes, I am now trying to resolve the issue under the belief that the issue is an opinionated matter and not a matter of policy. Talk:List of Lost episodes#Fair use criteria number 8. I ask that people share their comments, but please try to keep the conversation in this section focused.

One thing that works against us is that the conversation tries to defend too many points at once. Try not to respond to comments about other aspects of the debate, and just take this one step at a time. Basically, respond if you think this is an opinionated matter regarding policy point 8 of WP:FUC or not.

I believe if we can break through on the issue of point 8, the rest will fall into place. -- Ned Scott 08:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

season 5

Blank Season 5 looks stupid...

• I agree, anyone one else think the grid should be deleted until we at least have some more info? (such as titles and expected airdates) -- 68.37.125.87 16:12, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Yes, it should be removed. It's a tease!!!--Salvax 19:36, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• They have been aired now. http://www.gotfuturama.com/Information/EpisodeGuide/Season5/ --89.100.174.73 11:47, 5 November 2006 (UTC) /martbhell
• That seems to be a list made of season 3+4, I'd say delete season 5 part. --217.159.198.124 21:30, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Season 3 DVD set

Has anyone translated the message written in Alien Language that appears just after the copyright warnings?--Ukdan999 23:58, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Translations from Futurama. +Hexagon1 ^(t) 04:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Order

I seriously think these should be ordered by the broadcasting order, that is the order in which it was aired in, and that's the order most familiar to fans. The production order is more of the behind-the-scenes type thing, and they list the episodes by original air-date in many other lists-of-eps, like the Simspons list. +Hexagon1 ^(t) 09:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Good point, but the production codes for The Simpsons episodes do not necessarily indicate the air-date order (they only indicate when the episode was produced, within its season). The production codes for Futurama episodes signify the original intended broadcast order (which is the order they should be viewed in, otherwise plot holes can open). - 68.37.125.87 21:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, leaving it as-is is probably wisest. +Hexagon1 ^(t) 04:53, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Leave it in production order!!! The air dates mean absolutely nothing now since they will never again be aired in the exact sequence they originally were. The ordering now conforms to the DVDs which makes it easy to reference. Dukemeiser 01:19, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I fully understand the production order, or vol. 1-4 on the DVD's vs. the broadcast order, or seasons 1-5. I prefer the production order, since that was the intended airing order, and would have been the broadcast order if it wasn't cancelled, and the remaining unaired episodes became the fifth season. What I want to know is whether the Internet Movie DataBase's air dates or these ones are accurate. The IMDB lists one air date for the first two episodes, which is what I personally remember. Many other dates don't match either. If it helps, I live in Canada, and would have watched these through a Canadian affiliate, not actually FOX. Both sources should match, right? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.134.77 (talk) 19:58, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikiquote box

If you are going to add a wikiquote box to an episode page, please place it under the episode infobox. If you don't, there is a big empty space on the page. Thanks!--Salvax 21:47, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

TOC

Why is there no TOC on the article page? Wouldn't it make navigating the page easier? Just wondering. Nashville Monkey 10:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

S02E18 is Mother's day or The Problem with Popplers?

In wikipedia it is Mother's day but try "S02E18 futurama" in google and all results are Popplers : http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=opera&rls=en&hs=zpm&q=S02E18+futurama&btnG=Search —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.78.146.186 (talk) 11:07, 28 January 2007 (UTC).

Season five episodes from Bender's Big Score?

I noticed the table claims the first four episodes of the new season will be taken from the upcoming movie however I recently heard on Attack of the Show that the movies would not be sliced and diced into episodes. The article linked in the edit summary [1] does not seem to indicate one way or another about the movies being used as episodes (perhaps I missed something) so I am wondering where this info came from. It would be really great to add a citation for that. Thanks for any info. Stardust8212 15:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

new link

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/news/comments/?entryid=397361

216.177.121.212

Matt Groening: "I was frustrated when it got cancelled, but Fox, 20th Television is the one who came back and said, 'Would you like to do a DVD movie?'" Groening recalled. We said, 'Let's do two' and they said, 'Well, why not three?' and we said, 'Well, why not four?' and they said, 'Okay, four' and then that's it."

After this, Comedy Central won a bid to air the films as new "Futurama" episodes. "We're writing them as movies and then we're going to chop them up, reconfigure them, write new material and try to make them work as separate episodes. Chopped up is an indelicate way of putting it but we are doing them as movies and then we are reconfiguring them and writing new material and narration and this that and the other so that they'll stand on their own as episodes." Grande13 18:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, that link makes it much clearer. Stardust8212 18:13, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

The article states that every movie will be divided into episodes after they are released but I think that sounds wrong because I don't think that Comedy Central is going to air 4 episodes and then wait three months till the released of the other movie that wold take more than a year. I think some of the movies will be aired on TV before they are on DVD.

As far as I know there has been no date published for the airing of the episodes. It could be that none of the new episodes will air until all four DVDs are released. We can only state what has been published which is that they will be DVDs and then aired as episodes. If you have an article that gives more details I'd love to see it. Stardust8212 05:03, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Mislabeled

There are technically 5 seasons out. They are spread on only 4 DVD sets. These episodes from the 5th season are mislabeled in wikipedia as part of the fourth season. These have been divided by where they are by DVD rather than season. Agent Novichok 03:51, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

maybe you dont see the big note at the top of the page....

"This list is in production order, primarily because this is the order used on the DVDs and it helps avoid plot inconsistencies.

Futurama was originally created as four seasons however it was broadcast as five seasons in the original airing.

The production code is the code used by FOX to indicate the production order of the episodes, and is in the format #ACV##. The first number represents the production season. ACV is FOX's series code for Futurama. The second number is the episode's number.

The TV broadcast code indicates the broadcast order. It is in the format S0#E##, where S0# indicates the broadcasting season of which there were 5, and E## indicates the episode's number."

yeah.... Grande13

THIS IS ALL WRONG!!!

THERE ARE FIVE SEASONS!!!!!!!!! NOT FOUR!!!!!!!!!!!!!! im telling you that there are five seasons, if you look at the time when they are aired, the dates are out of chronological order!!!!! I looove futurama, but this is all mess-ed up!!!!! sum1 correct it!!!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.140.166.42 (talk) 04:33, 4 March 2007 (UTC).

Listen Noob, there are four DVD collections, hence 4 seasons. And learn to spell.207.134.166.42 (talk) 17:37, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I have to agree with the 'Noob' dickwad - there were originally 5 seasons. The fact that they were released as 4 dvds is unrelated. Whilst we are on the subject, why the hell are the movies put as season 5? They are movies, not part of the tv series. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.144.61 (talk) 00:02, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Do some research. Then come back with some opinions we can use. --Svip^pong 00:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

I have done some research http://epguides.com/Futurama/ - BOOM! 5 seasons! lastly, I feel you should read the dvd box sets once, it clearly says VOLUME and NOT Season. I work at Best Buy and do occassionally deal with the DVD section and Family Guy is even in Volumes but the interesting part is that on one of the volumes like volume 2 it shows character yelling season 3... ya cause volume 1 is seasons 1 & 2 so clearly you should be able to understand that the Volumes =/= Seasons. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.3.141.210 (talk) 20:19, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

He's right, episodes S05E01 through S05E16 (season 5) are missing from this page. - 99.179.127.90 (talk) 04:13, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Movie "production codes"

I see no reason to list the movies with the production codes of "XACV01" and "XACV02." Even though that would make them consistent with the list of episodes, there is no official production code for them... is there? --Hotdoglives 09:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

good point. i do not know if there are, but if there are not, to my mind it should be written something like "corresponding production codes" or "corresponding episodes." Twipley (talk) 00:08, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

List of Futurama episodes by broadcast order

Because there has been, and continues to be, a fair amount of confusion over the ordering of the episodes, I have created List of Futurama episodes by broadcast order. The new list is not meant to supersede this list, but to supplement it. It gives the full perspective on the differences between the intended order the producers wished, and the mangled order FOX bestowed us. And it answers why the current list is out of chronological order, displaying that mis-order that, for better or worse, is what most folks are familiar with. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 08:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

Watch out for the redirecting machine

You might want to look into a discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Using Wikipedia:Television episodes. User:TTN is going to be redirecting all of the episode pages to the episode list. If you don't want your hard work ELIMINATED, be sure to leave your comments there. —Zachary ^talk 22:08, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

I rather dislike being lumped into that discussion and if those pages are redirected here I'd say there would be a good number of people reverting those edits. The articles for Futurama are not abandoned as he seems to be claiming the other articles are and WikiProject Futurama is making a conscious effort to improve them, however the sorry state of many of the other Futurama related articles leaves us with quite a bit of work on our hands. If his argument is that no one is trying to get them to GA status he is quite incorrect as I, at least, am trying to figure out what we need to do to meet those standards. I'm not going to get wrapped up in the Village Pump discussion, looks like too much of a mess for me, but I appreciate you going into battle on our behalf. Best of luck and thanks for the heads up. Stardust8212 00:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

Episode notability

Many or all of the existing individual episode pages for this series appear to fail the notability guidelines for television episodes, and have been tagged accordingly. These articles can be improved through the inclusion of real-world information from reliable sources to assert notability. Overly long plot summaries should be edited, to a maximum length of approximately ten words per minute of screen time. Trivia should be integrated into the body of the article, or removed if it is not directly relevant. Quotes and images should only be used as part of a critical analysis of the episode. You might also consider merging any notable information onto the show's "List of episodes" or season pages. Otherwise, when these pages come up for review in fourteen days, they may be redirected, merged or deleted. If you want any help or further information, then come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode coverage. Thanks. TTN 00:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not to sure about that. Many people here seem to think these episodes are notable, and also, many of the articles cite sources. Per this I'm removing the Notability tags.H^t/c 16:35, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

WTF? I think this thing is missing episodes.

I seem to recall more episodes than this. In addition, I don't even see my favorite episode on this list. The one where the Nintendoo64 try to invade the planet. 24.117.164.51 03:11, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I believe they are all there, there were on 72 episodes in the original run. You're favorite story is actually part of Anthology of Interest II. --WillMak050389 03:15, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Sortable table for broadcast order

Just thought I'd note that there is a sortable version of Template:Episode list at Template:S-Episode list. An example of how it's used can be see in List of The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya episodes or List of Hidamari Sketch episodes. -- Ned Scott 07:39, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

How can multiple separate tables be sorted as though they were one table? When sorting by production order, season 3 table is numbered 45, 46, 47, 50, 51. 48 and 49 are _missing_. They are there, but not sorted because they are in a different table. —Zachary ^talk 16:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, when I noticed that I did an "aw crap" moment. There might be a way to still do the sorting, since the sorting table as it we see it now is just a "cheat" of a sorting table. Even if we don't use sorting, having the parts of the episodes in fields like this will make changing styles really easy, both now and in the future. -- Ned Scott 07:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I don't feel confident enough in my table making skills to try this myself but would it be reasonable to simply combine the four seasons into a single table which would be sortable by production or broadcast number. Or would that just be unwieldy? I agree that four seperately sortable tables doesn't really work very well but I do like the sortability feature. Stardust8212 22:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Im going to change it back to the initial format as there are multiple episodes that are in cross categories, for example there are a few season 3 production episodes that appeared as part of season 4 and therefore arent effected or effectively sorted by individual sorts. Even if you were to sort all the categories individually things still wouldnt be in order as episodes can't jump from one category to the next. So it will remain in the history incase a solution is found, but it really doesn't add anything to the article in its current form. Grande13 (talk) 23:45, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no point in changing it back when all we have to do is remove "sortable" from the table class. -- Ned Scott 00:26, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

Still trying to figure something out here. There's a few ways to do it, so I'll work something up in my sandbox and show it to everyone, so we can choose what looks best. -- Ned Scott 05:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Ok let us know if you come up with anything that works Grande13 (talk) 16:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I tried something with the tables. They were reverted, but I changed it back again. I just wanted to make the page look better. ЩіκіRocкs ↔ talκ 07:17, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately the change renders odd spacing and an extra table cell under each entry. The reason the numbers span two rows is because of a sortable table feature we're trying to work out, which will allow us to dynamically view the list in broadcast order or production order. -- Ned Scott 04:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

I converted it for the time being. -- Ned Scott 05:20, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Well the tables are better for now. Good luck on making the new sortable table, but can't you ask a skilled IT user to help you? * ₩іκіRocкs/Love$ounds ♥ talκ 02:18, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

There's a few ways to do it technically, it's just a matter of doing it and making it look good at the same time. -- Ned Scott 08:58, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Episode review

We'll be starting a review of each episode to see which ones need to stay and go. The main discussion can be found at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Futurama#Status of the episodes? TTN (talk) 21:21, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Surprise surprise. —Zachary ^talk 16:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Comments on the current status of the Season 1 episodes are welcome and encouraged at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Futurama/Season 1 review. Stardust8212 17:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

Merge all episodes here.

Because you're ruining every other wiki, why not this one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.176.166.228 (talk) 02:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

You're not making any sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.134.166.42 (talk) 17:38, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

Centralized TV Episode Discussion

Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here [2]. Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 23:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Episode tables

I fixed all of the episode tables. They look much neater now and look really good. Holler if you have any comments. ЩіκіRocкs ^talκ 07:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

They weren't actually broken, it was just something put on hold. See #Sortable table for broadcast order. -- Ned Scott 06:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

:( Oh, I didn't realise. But could you revert it back to my tables, just for now? ЩіκіRocкs ↔ talκ 12:14, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

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BetacommandBot (talk) 19:50, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

5ACV##?

Should S5 still have ACV as it's a FOX code? User:ATMarsden/Templates/Sign/Signature 21:20, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

Yes, because they do. They are produced with FOX anyway. They are just aired on Comedy Central. Production code doesn't care on which channel they air, they are just often associated with each other. Remember, that the films are produced with FOX Home Entertainment, which is FOX, those are also the ones cutting them up for episodes. Hell, the production code for Bender's Big Score is 5ACV01, 5ACV02, 5ACV03 and 5ACV04. --Svip^pong 09:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Minor Episode Naming Differences

i may well be subject to obsessive perfectionism, but i've noticed some discordances:

Roswell That Ends Well (according to [3] and wikipedia)

Roswell that Ends Well (according to [4])

Time Keeps on Slippin' (according to [5], [6] and wikipedia)

Time Keeps on Slipping (according to [7])

which one is the "official" list (could the correct ones be wikipedia and futurama wiki?)

and what is is written on the dvds (if they care about being coherent in their naming conventions)

Twipley (talk) 23:17, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

EDIT: you'd think since most titles from the futurama wiki and wikipedia article on futurama list are the same, this would be a hint that these are the correct, intended production titles, but even titles like Hell is Other Robots are named differently depending on lists, e.g. in wikipedia it's spelled "Hell Is Other Robots"! http://futurama.wikia.com/wiki/Hell_is_Other_Robots

other possible references are: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0149460/episodes and http://www.tv.com/futurama/show/249/episode_listings.html?season=All

maybe if we could know how titles are written on the official dvds, this could hint us towards which list is the "correct" (if there is any), because even the futurama wiki and wikipedia futurama list present some differences. Twipley (talk) 15:17, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

While this issue have been bought up before at our wiki, we found even "official" sources seemed to collide. So our best bet was to follow the Title Case. As for Slippin', the title is a reference to a song, where the g is replaced by an apostrophe, so it makes more sense for it to be missing in the episode title as well. --Svip^pong 16:03, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

do you mean it was spelled "slippin'" on the title box (volume booklet), or that the title has been changed from "slipping" to match the song title? furthermore, it would be interesting to know if titles of individual volumes really match those of the complete dvd collection (otherwise the whole strategy drops to water). Twipley (talk) 17:06, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

well, i happened to be thinking about that, again. that is a minor issue and, instead of worrying like i did about something of less importance, my recommendation is you just do like me and go watch futurama. ;) Twipley (talk) 05:05, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Renewal

As I'm sure most of you have heard, the show is being renewed for 26 episodes in 2010 ([8]). We need to eventually add a new season to the bottom of the list. OlYeller^Talktome 15:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

to clarify its 26 episodes to be spread out over 2 seasons so most likely two 13 episode seasons most likely to premiere in 2010 Grande13 (talk) 15:39, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Futurama: The Lost Adventure

I've added Futurama: The Lost Adventure, which David X. Cohen says was meant to be the de facto 73rd episode (cite provided). I'd appreciate it if someone else could wikitable the paragraph so the formatting is consistent with the rest of the episode. YLee (talk) 01:10, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

Season 6

Why don't you add the Season 6? The name "Rebirth" is confirmed and the first three minutes of the animatic were shown at the SuperCon in Miami, Florida. The video can be seen in [9] so the plot... well, the first scene, is confirmed.--190.139.224.249 (talk) 16:03, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

If you want a real source, Newsday got you covered. Alternatively, browse our article on the episode. --Svip^pong 16:07, 6 November 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, I Know the the page, sometimes I enter there. Season 6 should be added in this page, but they deleted it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.252.33.200 (talk) 15:44, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

No source was applied. Wikipedia has a far stronger requirement for sources than other wikis. Next time, try apply a source to the claims, e.g. the Newsday source I linked to previously. --Svip^pong 15:50, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Actually, this article more or less confirms its content. --Svip^pong 15:56, 7 November 2009 (UTC)

Broadcast order

Broad consensus defines this article as being written in the production order. If you wish to change that, take it to the talk page first. Therefore, I have reverted all of your edits. So avoid wasting your time in the future, let's discuss it first. --Svip^pong 11:48, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

I feel as an episode list it should be listed in broadcast order, there are infact only 5 episodes out of production order. also i feel that an explaination of the production-broadcast order should suffice in a release to DVD section either on this page or the main one. also your revert relies on articles (Seasons 1-3) that should be merged into this section and deleted.Nickhop 14 (talk) 16:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Futurama fans consider the production order the true order of the episodes. This is a general consensus that Wikipedia have reached. Wikipedia uses the same order for List of Firefly episodes, so I can't see how this is different. --Svip^pong 20:22, 8 December 2009 (UTC)

Family Guy is also out of production order and the list is in chronological order. I'm sure we can cite examples of either situation, firefly is a live action show, the production order matters alot because at the end of the episode if a characters hands get cut off they don't just forget about it in the next episode. what makes these episode guides different?

• List of Family Guy episodes
• List of American Dad! episodes
• List of The Cleveland Show episodes

Nickhop 14 (talk) 05:28, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

That they are terrible shows compared to Futurama or Firefly? What makes them different is that none of these were off air long enough for everyone to forget the Fox air schedule and people to remember the production order. Since Futurama actually has some continuity that is slightly disrupted by the broadcast order (e.g. "The Route of All Evil" produced for season 3 aired in "season 5"). But I am not sure where you are pulling your number of 'only 5 episodes' airing out of production order, I count at least 20-30. And that is just skimming through the list in broadcast order. --Svip^pong 12:06, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Well You forget of one thing this list was in production order because this animation was out of production now that it's in production unless comedy central plays them all in production order (unlikely) it will have to go back to chronological order. Also I don't see the quality of the show having any validity in this arguement and I feel it weakens your arguement considerabley.Nickhop 14 (talk) 12:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

I did not realise you couldn't take a joke. But that's okay.

Comedy Central are airing them in broadcast order, true. But the makers of the show refers to the episode numbers by production numbers on the commentaries. Fans refer to the episodes by production order. Only places that really use the broadcast order are websites that deal with television in general (thus not really caring) or television channels who just got them in that stack from Fox. You are giving too much credit to the people who don't care and a lot less to the people who actually cares. --Svip^pong 13:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

as long as we keep them sortable by either broadcast or production order why does it even matter?Grande13 (talk) 15:12, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Only what we pick as the default sorting. It matters because all other Futurama articles on Wikipedia follows the same scheme, as well as the templates, and whatnot. --Svip^pong 15:24, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

There are only 4 lines of production codes 1ACV to 4ACV so the writers intended it to be 4 seasons. The only reason it was 5 was because it was preempted all the time due to football and fox kept moving it around the schedule delaying and prolonging it into an extra season to burn off any additional episodes they had. On the commentaries, as confirmed in the dvd releases, its supposed to be 4 seasons, otherwise they could have easily realeased in into 5 volumes for their respective tv seasons. If a show is supposed to be approx 20 episodes a season, its still one season regardless if they extend it a few years or not.... Grande13 (talk) 16:02, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Sorry, sarcasm is hard to get in just text. but the reason being is that the new episodes will be in broadcast order and thus people will come here looking for them in broadcast order. I feel it takes away from the article if one section (seasons 1-4) are in production order while the new ones will be in broadcast order. I would elaborate more but my hand are too cold to keep typing.Nickhop 14 (talk) 21:43, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

The show is a unique exception and each part(the first 4 seasons as one, the new episodes as the second). First, while the show is grouped by production numbers, they are still in a season format, so putting the new episodes into their respective season based on airdate shouldnt be a problem. to accomodate for different formats, we can have a sort function for production order again. From the press release it looks like comedy central is content with having two 13 episode seasons at this point, so i dont really see it becoming an issue Grande13 (talk) 21:52, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

The sort function idea has been tried without success because when you sort the table, lets say it's in broadcast and you want it in production. so you click it and the "total" count gets scrambled. or far worse is if 6ACV13 is in part of the season 7 table so now it can't be sorted into the season 6 table. we could make it all one table but that just looks really messy.Nickhop 14 (talk) 22:05, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

its still successful, when looked at initially everything lines up, but if you want to see it in the broadcast order, then that should be the only category you really need to focus on. The sixth and seventh seasons will be listed by broadcast order, as they are most likely airing the in the season they intended to, as opposed to the first few seasons that were extended by fox, and not by the writers choice. We can make a note saying first 4 seasons sorted on fox sorted by production, while remaining by broadcast. there is nothing wrong or saying we cant do thatGrande13 (talk) 22:31, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

Ok This TV seasons table is a good start. an idea that has occurred is to petition Wikipedia to allow us to make a TV season episode list. the link to the INFOSPHERE could be replaced to the new page. The TV table could be secondary on this page with the season hyperlinked to the TV season episode lists, keeping the production season list linked to this episode guide. 2ndly, the pages for seasons 1, 2, & 3 be merged into this page, as I find it unneccessary to have them there own separate page when seasons 4, 5, & 6 aren't.Nickhop 14 (talk) 12:34, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

you don't need to petition to make season pages....they just need to have worthwhile info and to be notable and such. The reason seasons 4 and 5 dont have their own page is because it was just a list of the episodes which is repeat info. if you include dvd info, reception, reviews, criticism and such along with the list they will be fine. Check out some simpsons and family guy season pages for example. All seasons can have their own page is modeled similiar to this Family_Guy_(season_5) Grande13 (talk) 13:46, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

I started working on season 1 Futurama_(season_1) but have to go now, if you can add on to this and do it for every season then every season can have its own articleGrande13 (talk) 14:06, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

ok i did some quick work to all the season pages. please help expand some sections. For the reception one there are multiple reviews to be found, and i even included all the ign reviews on the pages for each season that they reviewed. Grande13 (talk) 16:56, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

lol I wasn't suggesting an expansion. I was suggesting merging seasons 1, 2, 3 into this article and then creating a new episode list but in TV order to compliment this article. the reason i used petition is because I doubt wikipedia would allow us to make a 2nd article on the nearly the same topic. in fact I did make a season 4 page which was promptly deleted.Nickhop 14 (talk) 21:41, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

There are no season pages for seasons 1-6. Seasons 1-4 are based on production numbers and are divided the way the creators intended. while season 6, and potentially on will be divided by broadcast date, unless comedy central really screws with the schedule in a way similiar to fox, which is safe to assume they most likely wont, so no problems should arise by ordering any seasons after 4 in broadcast order. Grande13 (talk) 22:02, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

ya there were seasons pages for 1-3. I'll explain again that I feel these seasons pages should be deleted and merged into this article. I think another episode list article should be created displaying the show in broadcast order.Nickhop 14 (talk) 22:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

This is completely ridiculous, but I'm not getting into this fight...

You are aware that as a result of this silly edit war over "broadcast" vs. "production order" that has been going on in the last days, the episodes of one complete season are missing from the overview now. Season 5, 2002/2003 vanished in the process.

(cue sound of fanboys hissing. "That's not season 5! The production order overrides the broadcast order. Inconsistencies must be avoided! Also, Han shot first!")

Anyway, I don't feel like getting into this fight, so I'm not reverting anything here. But maybe someone else would like to bring back the missing 18 episodes.

-- Minvogt (talk) 15:58, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

not sure what happened but its fixed nowGrande13 (talk) 16:57, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

lol ya that was totally grande's fault. also, that fight was been over for a week, when i brought back the broadcast order page.Nickhop 14 (talk) 08:33, 18 December 2009 (UTC)

WebVoyage ?????

-- G.D. 15/May/2010

What is this reference? Why does it point back to the wiki page?

Which WebVoyage database does it refer to? on what website?

and where are the codes from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.51.126 (talk) 07:58, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

While I agree that it is weird that they link back to the wiki article itself, they are referring to the United States Copyright Catalogue, which you can find here. --Svip^pong 12:46, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Not sure why someone would say, "search for this" instead of just adding the links. I've replaced the strange redirecting cryptic messages with actual references._Xeworlebi ^(t•c) 13:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for the answers and the change. I've researched this some more - WebVoyage is the name of the software running the web search interface for the voyager system and related server. this is a database system and web interface used by many libraries and online databases. I think that the reference should not say "WebVoyage" but "United Stated Copyright Catalog". -- G.D. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.51.126 (talk) 14:25, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Good point, Done. _Xeworlebi ^(t•c) 14:28, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

I found out why there aren't direct links. The United Stated Copyright Catalog is run by amateurs, the url is only active for about 5 minutes, after that you receive a timeout message when accessing it. I've changed the references to link to the search page with the Application Title as title and the search info after it. _Xeworlebi ^(t•c) 10:11, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Attack of the Killer App

According to this page, the third episode of season 6 will be the one entitled "Attack of the Killer App" 87.63.228.190 (talk) 06:18, 20 May 2010 (UTC)