Talk:Phil Collins

Politics

I'm pleased to see the nonsense about Collins moving to Switzerland because of Blair's win has been removed.

Collins has posted comments through the webmaster of the www.philcollins.invisionzone.com, and here is one from 2005:

Hi All, I wrote this a while ago after reading the Gallagher's talking about voting Labour if only to keep me from coming back to England. I took offence at that and wrote this, but sat on it... however in the light of the Mirror piece I'm prepared to post it and be d**ned....

Before I say anything.. let the minutes of this meeting show brothers, that I like a fair bit of what THE OASIS do. They remind me of BEATLES.... a great band and I like being reminded of BEATLES. If you were there the first time round, you might think THE OASIS were a bit similar, what with that Liam and his attitude and his brother Noel... thinking they are as good as them BEATLES. Fact is.... they are a bit pale compared to them BEATLES..... I am, we all are.... Now Liam is just a clot... bop him round the head, and wake him up... Noel is smarter... but only just.... Just because they write a tune or two that reminds us of BEATLES we swoon a bit and reminisce.... but it's only nostalgia really.

Now....

I'd like to grab an opportunity to finally lay to rest a much quoted untruth about my Political leanings. I have never been a Conservative, or at least not since being a young teenager. My Father voted Conservative, and even his doing that was a hangover from the 50's and 60's, which may have been an influence on me. I'm sick and tired of being thrown in that same old box... "he's got money.... so he must be..." I once said that if taxes were put up to a level where the Government took home more than me, then I would consider moving out of the Country. The Conservatives were in at that point and I mentioned Labour... if Labour had been in, I would have mentioned Conservative. It was said to make a point over 15 years ago. No one’s asked me since. I don't care if Noel Gallagher likes my music or not.... I do care if he starts telling people I'm a wanker because of my Politics.... an opinion based on an old misunderstood quote.

I live outside the UK purely because my wife lived here when we met.

End of story.

PC

Ordinary Person (talk) 02:04, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I'm not sure how reliable that particular website is, but the mai n reason this information was removed from the article was because it wasn't properly cited. Thanks AreJay (talk) 00:46, 7 August 2008 (UTC)

List of Phil Collins awards

Hi, can someone put that article in the right way, with wikipedia standards, best in table form, because it could be cancelled.

Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.213.90.183 (talk) 15:26, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

phil collins

tot va ser un montatge el no composava —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.50.108.247 (talk) 11:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

£17M

The article says that Collins paid £17M to his second wife. Is this 17.000 or 17.000.000 pounds? Someone from out-of-England like me won't know! FAThomssen (talk) 09:49, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

In currency a capital M means million. and K = thousands. Confusing with french Mille etc, but it is standar in English.Yobmod (talk) 10:16, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

"In the Air Tonight" Rumour

The main article states, "This path was inspired by the death of his good childhood friend, Patrick Michael Fithen, who drowned a year before in a pond outside of London." This would lend evidence to the rumour that "In the Air Tonight" is based on a true experience from Phil Collins life. Snopes.com (2006) provides the complete rumour and variations on it, and also marks it as false. I have seen at least one interview in which Mr. Collins denies the rumour is true, saying he has no idea where it came from. Unfortunately, I cannot cite the interview properly. I can only say I believe I saw it on the American Ovation Channel. It was a rather recent interview, having taken place in the last few years. I will try to locate the source and post it if I can.

While providing a complete name of the child who supposedly drowned in the article gives the appearance of credibility, the sentence should be removed until references can be provided. There's just too much evidence to the contrary.

References Snopes.com (2006, July 30). In the Air Tonight. Urban Legends Reference Pages. Retreived November 21, 2008 from http://www.snopes.com/music/songs/intheair.asp

--Mdgill (talk) 16:38, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Collins has also said that he doesn't know what the song was about on two television specials. "VH1's Storytellers" and "Classic Albums: Face Value" are the two. I believe that the sentence should actually be removed, since it is unsourced and seems extremly dubious. In fact, I've followed Collins' career for a while, other than Wikipedia I've never heard of that before! I'll remove it, and if anyone can provide a citation or proof, feel free to add a reference. CarpetCrawler (talk) 18:35, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

Operation

I just heard on Fox News Channel that Phil may have to give up his career because of a vertebrae operation. Should I put that in then? FotoPhest (talk) 22:55, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Early Life citations

I notice as a general feature of Wiki biographies that early life events often lack citation. Here, we have the statement that Collins (and elsewhere, Steve Marriot) performed the role of The Artful Dodger in the original London production of Oliver! No citation, however. I can only find a reference to Marriot having been in the cast (a Jonathan Collins appears in the orphan/Fagin's gang list) in the Guide to Musical Theatre website. Can anyone produce evidence that these are facts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alvingrung (talk • contribs) 13:00, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

Someone should lock the article.

Someone keeps "vandalizing" this entry saying Phil Collins "eats babies". Collins is not a cannibal of any kind. This needs to be locked to prevent further editing.
--205.214.245.185 (talk) 12:15, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

An addition to Collins' Work with other artists

In 1989, Phil Collins played drums on Woman in Chains, Tears for Fears' second single from the album Seeds of Love. A socially involved song, to say the least. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.92.164.244 (talk) 07:15, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

Honorary President of Accrington Stanley FC

I don't know the exact dates, but in the mid 90s Collins was honorary president of Accrington Stanley FC. He is listed as such in match programmes of the time.MidlandLinda (talk) 21:22, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Collins drumming contributions to Robert Plant solo albums.

No one has mentioned Collins' drumming on Robert Plant's first two solo albums or that Collins played drums for the supporting tour of the second album even though he was quite successful as a lead in Genesis and his own solo carrer at the same time. It is well covered in the Robert Plant article and album articles but should at least be mentioned here. As I am a wiki novice, I leave it up to experianced wiki wizards to make any changes to the article. I will provide citations from the other wiki articles. You folks can research actual sources as these must be in the other wiki articles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Plant

"Although Plant avoided performing Led Zeppelin songs through much of this period, his tours in 1983 (with superstar drummer Phil Collins). . . "

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pictures_at_Eleven

"Pictures at Eleven is the debut solo album by former Led Zeppelin singer Robert Plant. Genesis drummer Phil Collins played drums for six of the album's eight songs." "Phil Collins - drums on 1-3, 5-6, 8, 9 & 10"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Principle_of_Moments

"Genesis drummer Phil Collins played drums for six of the album's eight songs (as he did on Pictures at Eleven)." "Like Plant's first solo album, Pictures at Eleven, the songs departed from the hard rock of Led Zeppelin. Following the strength of these albums, Plant launched a successful tour in 1983. Phil Collins was the drummer for Plant's band on this tour. Collins was content to perform in the background, despite his own enormous success as a solo artist at the time." "Phil Collins - drums on 1-3, 5-6, 8 + all the bonus tracks on the 2007 reissue."

Bobroberts248 (talk) 09:42, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I think this is fairly irrelevant. Collins was a session drummer for several singers/banks including Jethro Tull, Plant, Clapton, etc. That's already mentioned in the article. There's no need to go into any great detail on this. AreJay (talk) 00:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Phil Collins In The Air Tonight audio sample: Year Incorrect

The hit «In The Air Tonight» from the Face Value Album was officially dated 1981 from Atlantic Records, and not 1980 as stated before. In fact, later on the full article «Face Value (1981)» is written. So I thought a correction in this sense must be made. Regards.-Juanjaviermartinez (talk) 15:25, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Written and released in 80 as a single, released on FV in 81. FV was written over the previous 1.5 years. Srobak (talk) 14:31, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Help with Citing

I've just added info about Phil filming an ITV special to the 2009-present section but cant work out the code for citing correctly, can someone fix it for me please?