Talk:Batman

Bruce Wayne!

Why is it that Superman and Clark Kent are separate articles, yet Bruce Wayne is merely a brief paragraph within the Batman page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.52.147.84 (talk) 04:14, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

The secret is out! Superman and Clark Kent ARE actually different people! --Nihilozero (talk) 05:07, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

Because you're too lazy to make a decent Bruce Wayne article? You think the Clark Kent article MAGICALLY appeared? If you want a bigger Bruce Wayne article, MAKE ONE.129.139.1.68 (talk) 20:05, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Abilitlies and Powers?

I wanted to know where that section is or if there is one. Most wiki pages for comic book heroes have their powers/abilities but it seems like this page doesn't. I may be on the wrong page but this seems like where all of Batman(Bruce Wayne's alter ego)'s information belongs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.104.81.250 (talk) 02:13, 1 January 2010 (UTC)

batman doesn't really have any powers.71.112.117.210 (talk) 00:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't it have at least he is a martial artist? Even Catwoman has her abilities listed. 76.104.81.250 (talk) 04:17, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I agree. Peak human potential isn't even mentioned there, and he's supposed to be the most profound fighter and athlete of his universe ... Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 16:59, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

"Peak human potential" and "martial arts" aren't powers or even abilities any more than Steven Hawking's understanding of space time is an ability.129.139.1.68 (talk) 20:08, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Bruno Diaz

No mention of the name Bruno Diaz? Bruce Wayne is only Batman's civilian identity in english language versions of Batman. In other languages Bruce Wayne is named Bruno Diaz. No idea why. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.162.208 (talk) 22:58, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Uhm, who cares? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.161.167.125 (talk) 05:18, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

Well, actually the man has reason. A bit of reference in te Trivia part could be done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vortex36 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Then add the other identities on the other language wiki pages.129.139.1.68 (talk) 20:09, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Minor correction on Identity Crisis

Identity Crisis was 2002, not 2005 as it says in the Fictional character biography section under Modern Batman. It was 3 years before Infinite Crisis, which WAS 2005. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.162.208 (talk) 23:36, 3 March 2010 (UTC)

Added picture

I don't have an account, but maybe someone can add this picture? Or a picture of the Azrael Batman? Since Dick Grayson's picture as Batman is on this page, maybe this one can be as well? It's a picture of Jean Paul Valley/Azrael as Batman, who becomes Batman after Bane breaks Bruce Wayne's back. Here's a picture: [[:Image:Det667.jpg|thumb|130px|left|Detective Comics #667 (1993). Art by Kelley Jones.]] (Here, this is the picture-- (File:Det667.jpg)) If not this picture, maybe another one with Azrael in his Batman costume. What does everyone think?71.194.114.35 (talk) 01:19, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

BILL NEVER CLAIMED HE CREATED THE BATMAN

The portion that reads "...Kane disputed Finger's claims at having created the character." is false. It should read something like: "...Kane disputed Jerry Bails' claims that Finger created the character."

Portions of this article are taken from an article from which I quoted and submitted to Wiki a few years ago. In it, I demonstrated that Bill Finger is not the one who was saying he created The Batman. It seems that Jerry Bails and some of his friends had met Finger at his studio after a comic book convention at which he had explained how he helped Kane refine his idea. Bails in turn wrote an article in BATMANIA in which he (not Bill) claimed that Bill "really" created Batman. This caused an uproar that led to Kane's furious response, parts of which are also quoted in this article. Eventually in Steranko's History of the Comics, Bill clarified his involvement (especially how he came up with the "Bruce Wayne" monniker), but even with this, Kane was still attacked by some "fans" who distorted things while some comic book insiders insulted Bill with the jargon about "...being Fingered".MARK VENTURE (talk) 21:03, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Character flaws?

Other characters have their character flaws mentioned -- for example Tony Stark is an alcoholic -- but people seem to think that Batman is beyond criticism. I personally find it hilarious, but why was the fact that he uses torture and intrusive surveillance in his fight against crime removed from this article?

Because torture and intrusive surveillance aren't character flaws.129.139.1.68 (talk) 20:11, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

The film The Dark Knight does explore the issues of torture and intrusive surveillance and if you have suitable articles or reviews discussing the issue you could highlight that story theme in that article. Those issues do not necessarily apply to all versions of Batman so it might be more difficult to justify including them here. -- Horkana (talk) 00:10, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Fair use of image

I'm looking for an image to add to the article simple:Batman. I have already added the Batmobile image as it is the only image in this article that is Creative Commons licensed. It is difficult to know what "fair use" means, different editors have very different ideas. I would like to know what image or images would be the most fair so that the simple:Batman article could have at least one or two pictures of Batman. -- Horkana (talk) 23:55, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

File:Batpod.jpg is another CC licensed image you could use there. Erik (talk | contribs) 14:27, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Thanks. Really need at least one image of Batman himself though, don't want to overwhelm a small article with too many pictures of Batmans gadgets. I'm surprised the editors who are so very strict about images in other cases allowed so many images in this article especially since there to be two images of Batman by Jim Lee. I'd guess the infobox image is probably the safest bet but it is incredibly confusingly how inconsistently the standard of fair use is applied and I could really do with other opinions. I suppose I should work improve the description in article for readers who will be using versions of Wikipedia. -- Horkana (talk) 16:04, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

Homosexuality in Batman

What the blue blazes is this section?! Talk about undue emphasis in an article. This section is made up of taking small offhand comments from a few people and blowing them all out of proportion. It should be deleted as it's got nothing to do with Batman and seems like some sort of homosexual obsession. JettaMann (talk) 21:34, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

You could probably argue undue weight but surprisingly I do think this has come up a lot and there are people who see a gay subtext in all kinds of places (see also Kirk and Spock in Star Trek). If you want to push people to provide more citations to prove notability then do ask but I expect people will be able to find all kinds of sources. Undue weight might be reason to keep the section short but I do think there is reason enough for it to exist. Also it is kind of funny. -- Horkana (talk) 00:00, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Alter-ego(s)

Dick Grayson should be listed under Batman's alter-ego(s) in the infobox.

Limbero (talk) 19:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Bruce Wayne - His Own Article?

Now that Bruce Wayne is no longer the Batman, and ergo not just a sercret identity, combined with the fact that Clark Kent is a different article to Superman, I think that Bruce Wayne deserves his own article. I thought about restoring [1], but I decided to get some conseus first. What does everyone think of the idea? At the very least I believe he deserves his own article, if not the old revision I linked to. Harry Blue5 (talk) 10:52, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Wayne returning in Return of Bruce Wayne

The Intro says "Wayne will return as Batman in Batman: The Return of Bruce Wayne". This is unconfirmed. Although I'm sure he will return as Batman, we don't know that that will actually happen in this series. All we know is that Bruce Wayne will return to current time. Gonna re-word it unless somebody finds a source saying that he will become Batman again this soon. ZODtheReaper (talk) 02:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)