Talk:Hurricane Alex (2010)

Preparations

typing from an iPhone sorry if this comes out messy, however the Houston Chronicle just released an article about preparations. I can't provide the link because my phone is lame but it talks about Tex. Gov Perry declaring states of emergency for 19 counties and other very wiki information. Keep up the good work ... Altarboy420 (talk) 02:59, 29 June 2010 (UTC) ... http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/7085151.html Altarboy420 (talk) 03:08, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely worth mentioning, thanks. Official source: http://governor.state.tx.us/news/proclamation/14811/ --Nickm93 (talk) 03:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is anyone going to update the hurricane and tropical storm warnings in the article? Altarboy420 (talk) 04:48, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and did it. I welcome someone re-wording or doing whatever to what I wrote as long as the information stays in the article Altarboy420 (talk) 05:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Pressure Reading

A Mexican Weather Station picked up a pressure reading of ~992mb while Alex made landfall, see this link, should this be mentioned in the article? -Marcusmax(speak) 01:59, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Then again maybe not, something seems off about it, notice how at the beginning of the day the pressure was 998mb even when the TC wasn't close. Nevermind it appears to be bad data. -Marcusmax(speak) 02:03, 27 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alex made a direct hit on Cayos Arcas

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AL, 01, 2010062812, , BEST, 0, 201N, 916W, 50, 989, TS, 50, NEQ, 25, 0, 0, 0, 1006, 250, 20, 60, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, ALEX, D, 12, NEQ, 60, 30, 30, 60

According to the current track data Alex made a direct hit on the island chain of Cayos Arcas today, it appears the Center of Circulation passed within about two miles of the island chain located at 20.21'N 91.98'W per this. I naddition per the 4:00 CDT advisory (Advisory 13) a Mexican Naval station on the island reported a pressure of 992mb. Should this data be added to the article, or the tohe table on the season page? -Marcusmax(speak) 21:52, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

As the island is uninhabited according to its article, no, it shouldn't, unless there's a good reason to do so. Alex made a direct hit on many islands before making landfall near Belize City, and adding all of them is not needed in my opinion. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 22:00, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Correct me if im wrong, but this island thus far is the only is the only one that has an official weather observation station, which means that a direct hit can be confirmed, while the islands near Belize can't really be confirmed as direct hits other then using track data. -Marcusmax(speak) 22:28, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Apparently the Cayos Arcas are also an important oil port per this Reuters article, "The ports of Dos Bocas and Cayo Arcas, which handle 80 percent of Mexico's oil export shipping in the Gulf, have been closed since Sunday due to strong surf in the area." -Marcusmax(speak) 02:01, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Discovering this, I say include it. The closing of important rigs may be the "good reason" to mention an uninhabited island in the article. Nickm93 (talk) 02:09, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I used to write articles on hurricanes here under a different user name several years ago and it was pretty much standard S.O.P. to include any and all directly hit islands, counties, cities etc... You want to give someone as much information as possible on the storm. I vote YES on the inclusion of directly hit islands into this article. Altarboy420 (talk) 03:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Reading the added information, then yes, it should be added. Also, for the Season Effects template, I found some other island landfalls/direct hits for Alex, however, via the RBT and advisory data. Here's to sum up all landfalls/direct hits so far: Great Blue Hole with 65 mph winds, Turneffe Islands with 65 mph winds, Drowned Cays with 60 mph winds, North of Belize City with 60 mph, and Cayos Arcas with 60 mph winds. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 05:06, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

BP Oil Spill

Currently, this is mentioned in both the Preparations and Impact sections. The mentions should be consolidated, into either section. Or, would having a section dedicated to potential impact on the oil spill be necessary? Nickm93 (talk) 22:36, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Whilst i know the media are going mad about Alex and the Oil Spill it only really needs to be mentioned once in the impact section.Jason Rees (talk) 22:40, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Being the first TS of the season, it does alert people to the potential threat that could face the oil spill and operations there. However, the storm itself has stayed well away from the site. For that reason, I agree it should only have minimal mention here. Nickm93 (talk) 22:44, 28 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Alex is a very large storm, absorbed cat. 3 Hurricane Darby

Hi. Should we take note of the size of the storm in the article, or should we wait until after the season ends to do so? The storm is, I would estimate, about 25 degrees wide in latitude and longitude including its outer bands. It already fills up almost the entire Gulf of Mexico. This is likely the result of Alex being the merger of an ICTZ wave and another wave, developing into a storm similar in style to a West Pacific typhoon. Also, Hurricane Darby started weakening when Alex developed into a depression, when it was already large enough to have an effect on the much stronger hurricane. Alex eventually reduced Darby to a depression and absorbed it. Should we mention this as well, and the fact that some spiral bands extend to the East Pacific? Thanks. ~A H 1^(TCU) 23:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Early on June 30?

The lead mentions Alex becoming a hurricane early on June 30. While this is true for UTC, shouldn't we use the date for CDT (where the hurricane is)? Nickm93 (talk) 03:00, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hurricane articles always use UTC time. It might be confusing, but we strive for consistency. --Hurricanehink (talk) 03:03, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Current Conditions

The Houston Chronicle seems to be doing the best job on covering the current conditions of Hurricane Alex. They have been rather detailed about sandbag issuance and some mandatory evacuations on South Padre Island that are not mentioned in the article. Just thought it might be helpful. Also the 1995 season saw 19 named storms and 11 hurricanes, an incredibly active season. Should that be mentioned in the article?Altarboy420 (talk) 04:35, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Intensity

Alex is the first June hurricane since Allison in 1995, but it is also the strongest one since Audrey, the strongest ever, formed in 1957. Should this also be mentioned in the main article?98.206.70.2 (talk) 19:50, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If I remember correctly, Alex is the strongest hurricane since Audrey in terms of pressure, but in terms of windspeed, it is not. However, because the Alex's pressure is lower than a normal Cat 1 storm , I don't know if it's wise to call it the strongest since Audrey using the pressure. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 20:18, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

June or July landfall?

It looks like it'll make a landfall in June CDT, but in Greenwich time (UTC), it will be the morning of July 1st. How do you determine dates for landfall? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.234.100.114 (talk)

We use UTC time for consistency. Darren 23^Edits|Mail 21:40, 30 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

So, if we were to say that this was the strongest June hurricane to make landfall since so and so, we'd be wrong?